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In reply to the discussion: NYC_SKP has been banned [View all]steve2470
(37,461 posts)828. That's a shame he said that
Of course I didn't agree with him on a few things (guns, Hillary), but he was a good guy and a good guy to me. He stuck up for me once (not that I ever need it) and I always remembered that.
Since he was here for so long and made good contributions, I'd like to see him be able to make a sincere apology in GD and be reinstated.
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Which clearly shows that the term wasn't applied to ANY person, including Hillary.
Lizzie Poppet
Jun 2015
#1076
Which clearly show it was Directed right at Hillary Clinton. You're not helping SKP by denying it
Cha
Jun 2015
#1077
Yes it does..and, there's another set of spinners whining because he got banned bc it was directed
Cha
Jun 2015
#1079
Sorry, your defense won't work with the Admins. Doubt very much if SKP uses it. He wouldn't want to
Cha
Jun 2015
#1081
DU is really weird these days, too much nastiness and rudeness. It isn't good or necessary.
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#2
We still have a common enemy, the Oligarchy. That includes Goldman-Sachs and the Wall Street
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#880
And the name of their game is Divide and Conquer and that is what the oligarchs are doing here
Dont call me Shirley
Jun 2015
#1024
I just called him out a few weeks ago on the increasing weirdness of his posts that were, of course,
Number23
Jun 2015
#799
Then why doesn't he have more hidden posts? The guy had no hidden posts for the past 90 days.
Hiraeth
Jun 2015
#1029
I agree with you that the jury system sucks however, I have seen people post jury results on alerted
Hiraeth
Jun 2015
#1034
No one dropped the C-Bomb however, clear was the implication and given the context, after reviewing
Hiraeth
Jun 2015
#1043
Idiots, cretins, miscreants. yahoos, reprobates, goobers, but not the C word.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#52
Assholes is good. Not hard at all to stay away from sexist or racist slurs if you respect others....
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#74
Lesson is even when your posts survive a jury, the admins can still see the alerts
wyldwolf
Jun 2015
#847
Part of it is that there's practically no one who's saying "he couldn't have meant
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#776
he had also tried to blame the Charlie Hebdo victims by insisting that those
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#787
I'm not God but I would have given him a thirty day timeout, long enough to miss the place.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#302
What makes you think the ban has been lifted? I would be happy if it has been.
madfloridian
Jun 2015
#527
He never used that word, never called her that, it's all made up nasty shit to ban a critic. /nt
Dragonfli
Jun 2015
#804
I am against the ongoing movement here to label individual words as "inappropriate"....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jun 2015
#927
Bull fucking shit. And nobody ever called Mrs. Clinton a name when they passed this Photo shop around in 2008
Hassin Bin Sober
Jun 2015
#980
Here's how I see it... context is everything and I could be a thousand miles off base here.
cherokeeprogressive
Jun 2015
#855
I agree so much. I've been a fan since I first joined DU. I think it's unfortunate
RKP5637
Jun 2015
#242
NYC_SKP used to be a mod on DU2. He will be missed. I hope the admins give him another chance.
L0oniX
Jun 2015
#11
He joked that it was a tongue twister. He was definitely referencing that word. n/t
Adrahil
Jun 2015
#61
Well it is unlikely that I will stop replying to people who I highly respect.
zeemike
Jun 2015
#1058
What did he actually say? I know people have been trying to have him banned but I can't believe
Dragonfli
Jun 2015
#785
I like you am just a lurker, as a matter in fact I haven't posted for years.
billymayshere
Jun 2015
#934
I do not think there was justification for this. So now cunning stunt is a code word for cunt? Not
jwirr
Jun 2015
#78
Absolutely. He is banned because he supports someone else and was doing a good job of it. EarlG
jwirr
Jun 2015
#103
C*nt is not "legit" and he should be embarrassing true supporters of any and all Dem candidates with
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#127
"You all", lol. Women are the Dem base- try respecting them instead of trying to dismiss and
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#155
Yes, we women have been part of the Dem base for most of our lives. Mary and I are part of the Dem
sabrina 1
Jun 2015
#983
Oh my fucking god, I can't keep up with all the "insert letter here"-words.
Ed Suspicious
Jun 2015
#206
I hope not. If it is alerted on, the jury should surely vote to leave 7 to 0. Context matters. nt
merrily
Jun 2015
#657
Which is weird, because people come right out and say horrendous stuff. It might
ScreamingMeemie
Jun 2015
#217
So, in your view it would be ok to use and not deserve a banning because others didn't get banned.
boston bean
Jun 2015
#525
If someone called my mom or girlfriend the c word he, me or we are going to the hospital.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#118
You don't think if I drop the wrong epithet on the wrong person I am going to get a whuppin ?
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#488
Yes, it is. Switch the first letters, the consonants and see what it says.
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#132
It's a sad state of affairs when we start using urban dictionary as a reference.
Exilednight
Jun 2015
#1020
Only if we're writing a scholarly article and don't attribute the source properly. n/t
Gormy Cuss
Jun 2015
#1023
I would never make that connection. Says more about the alerter than the poster.
GoneFishin
Jun 2015
#251
Exactly. I find the word vulgar. I can cuss with the best of them, but I wince when I hear the word.
GoneFishin
Jun 2015
#910
and even if I did make the connection, it is still only an implication, much in the same way
Hiraeth
Jun 2015
#1035
I read some posts about it and got nauseous--and I've been through a lot of surgery.
merrily
Jun 2015
#750
and we all know what the poster implied with the pictures in the "Not Good Enough" OP .
Hiraeth
Jun 2015
#1036
It was a blatant and obvious bullshit excuse, he called no one the c word, no one at all.
Dragonfli
Jun 2015
#811
Witch hunters are very clever at finding "witch marks" where a pimple exists
Dragonfli
Jun 2015
#818
I agree with all you have said and feel we have lost a strong voice. DUers
snappyturtle
Jun 2015
#397
I hope so, he has been through the mill with his health issues and brain surgery.
Autumn
Jun 2015
#68
I can't remember for sure who called Hillary the c word in 2007 but they didn't get banned.
Autumn
Jun 2015
#86
Why would you say that to someone who posted she does not use that kind of term?
merrily
Jun 2015
#957
Just go to 'site search' and look and see how many have used the actual word and survived.
Rex
Jun 2015
#426
I thought I had that thread bookmarked but some of those old threads no longer exist.
Autumn
Jun 2015
#463
If this will make some think before posting nasty shit about the other guy/gals pony
Rex
Jun 2015
#478
If this means Skinner has less tolerance for misogyny (as Earl G has for years) then I'll take it...
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#573
I am with you on that. If Skinner finally sees how fucked up it is- he is now way ahead of many here
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#617
Agree. Because when women were complaining about misogyny and stalking nothing was done.
cui bono
Jun 2015
#544
You can refer back to the original thread - am not linking to it as requested because
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#228
Would you PM the link to me please? No host in the Bernie group is laughing at that post
Autumn
Jun 2015
#230
Witness their discussions on how they cannot trust anyone in GD because they are not really
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#514
There are two threads there discussing Sander's need to broaden his outreach....
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#586
I think you nailed it with the "war room" mentality and how it does no one any good....
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#639
It is interesting that EarlG and not Skinner banned him as they typically ban for very different
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#362
You can always hang in the Bernie Group here. Then, there is the Bernie campaign's page
merrily
Jun 2015
#735
Sorry, which one was just banned and which one were you piling on about...buddy...
truebrit71
Jun 2015
#626
It's part of being perceived as privileged. Calling me a dick is both appropriate and acceptable.
Buzz Clik
Jun 2015
#93
I went back and changed c--t to the c word in all my posts on this topic....
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#299
Dick and prick are in fact used constantly and intentionally in a "mean and hateful" way.
Smarmie Doofus
Jun 2015
#935
If you can quote any part of anything I EVER SAID that would suggest banning all Sanders supports...
Buzz Clik
Jun 2015
#70
That post is a bit muddled. Your feeling is that Skippy was the only Sanders bad boy at DU?
Buzz Clik
Jun 2015
#101
I wouldn't even call the dumbest GOP female candidate that Ugly word.
misterhighwasted
Jun 2015
#491
Or just a stupid play on words that he wouldn't normally have done but in a moment
polly7
Jun 2015
#553
Selective reading for an agenda much? Bye, bye. Sorry it didn't work out for you. nt.
polly7
Jun 2015
#662
Embarrassing is defending someone who got banned for using the c-word
misterhighwasted
Jun 2015
#665
I remember when DU3 came online... he went absolutely ballistic towards a teacher or two.
demmiblue
Jun 2015
#219
If I didn't want to relive the trauma of his hateful words, i'd dig up old posts for proof
Heddi
Jun 2015
#857
Yes, Mahalo Starry Messenger.. there are "Bernie Supporters" who aren't excusing this and really
Cha
Jun 2015
#1011
Its not even about WHO he supported. This is about his nasty insulting personal attacks
misterhighwasted
Jun 2015
#508
i'm a strong Hillary supporter, but i don't like banning people who don't think like me
samsingh
Jun 2015
#332
true enough - but still banning someone for a word in a world of free speech is excessive
samsingh
Jun 2015
#631
He did NOT use that word. The two words he used meant nothing to clueless folks like me.
madfloridian
Jun 2015
#637
Just because you didn't recognize it doesn't mean he and everyone else didn't
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#732
He wasn't banned for "not thinking like you".. he was banned for trying to be "clever" with his
Cha
Jun 2015
#1015
The only way this could become temporary is if he sends an email to Skinner asking to be reinstated.
In_The_Wind
Jun 2015
#104
Yes, he did. Arguing format over content and cowering behind implication is simply puerile.
LanternWaste
Jun 2015
#339
Like when Barbara Bush called Geraldine Ferraro the $4million thing that rhymes with rich./NT
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#442
Your the best Justin and thanks for the context elsewhere in the thread.
Jesus Malverde
Jun 2015
#451
Hard to imagine it takes 69K posts before someone decides he doesn't belong.
Jesus Malverde
Jun 2015
#464
We lost a very bright member. Keenly intelligent. Lost perspective due to intensity, I imagine.
Gregorian
Jun 2015
#57
Don't underestimate the effect of serious health issues and longterm medication use.
blm
Jun 2015
#333
And then when the Charlie Hebdo offices got shot up, he blamed the victims up one
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#779
not sure of his intent, but yes, throwing the trolls' words back at them.
NRaleighLiberal
Jun 2015
#134
Making excuses because you had to "untwist " the words - as he suggested- to read c*nt?
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#116
I also had enough of the disruptive behavior (and it was not because of supporting a candidate).
Sancho
Jun 2015
#738
that's the point, he thought he was being clever by pushing the boundaries.
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#80
I hope you remove this post now that you know you were mistaken and no host cheered him on.
Autumn
Jun 2015
#689
There was an over the top post a few months back on President Obama by a long termer, where the
still_one
Jun 2015
#288
Let TRP use the same word to describe a hated conservative female and it's cheered.
cherokeeprogressive
Jun 2015
#114
Calling a woman, even a hated one, the c word here wouldn't survive. /NT
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#139
You're right about that but post a link to TRP saying it and it's all good. n/t
cherokeeprogressive
Jun 2015
#147
The British historically also had no problem using racial epithets for African Americans and Asians,
still_one
Jun 2015
#313
Yes, thank you, I will correct it. You make a good point about my terminology also
still_one
Jun 2015
#630
Not commenting on the poster one way or the other, but I've seen more offensive posts
hughee99
Jun 2015
#89
You've seen posts that are more offensive that calling Hillary a **** survive a jury?
Buzz Clik
Jun 2015
#109
I'm glad to be keeping you from being productive or perhaps annoying someone else
hughee99
Jun 2015
#166
He did NOT use that word. To the naive like me I can see no connection to what he said.
madfloridian
Jun 2015
#549
+ 1000 I truly like NYC SKP, he had a lot of thoughtful & wonderful OPs over the years.
peacebird
Jun 2015
#445
He called Charlie Hebdo racists and suggested they were responsible for the shooting.
AtheistCrusader
Jun 2015
#106
Indeed he did, in most starling terms. The poster was a conservative on many issues and on that
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#543
he self-deleted the OP but copied it to the last post in the thread for posterity
CreekDog
Jun 2015
#178
I have a rather low opinion of her but I would never use that word to describe her or any woman
CBGLuthier
Jun 2015
#110
I don't know that it's the main value, but it's sure ok here, if you are on the side of
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#1038
From this experience I've learned quite a lot more about the member & group which
appalachiablue
Jun 2015
#784
The word doesn't bother me in the least. But I didn't see the post. I thought the post
valerief
Jun 2015
#173
makenthe same argument for n****r and k**e- please proceed to educate us, Val!
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#192
Well, I don't know about the word knee, but as for the other word, black rappers
valerief
Jun 2015
#203
Lol, so you're okay with n*****r and will be when Bernie gets k*k* thrown at him....
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#221
white males using the N-word and the C-word aren't taking the power out of the words
CreekDog
Jun 2015
#264
Every poster I have ever seen here defending racism or sexism ignores history and denies context....
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#460
NYC SKP was banned for his recent posting history. The use of that offensive word was just a pretext
morningfog
Jun 2015
#559
Why don't you take that up with Skinner in ATA? Here's a Bernie Supporter who thinks that's rubbish
Cha
Jun 2015
#1013
Good heavens, I'd forgotten all about that. I used it as a joke response to a
valerief
Jun 2015
#195
Thanks for letting us know. Your "pretty please" couldn't stop the grave-dancing.
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#130
To be fair... DU has set up a Sanders group where Sanders fans are totally protected.
Buzz Clik
Jun 2015
#156
Not true. Had I seen the term and recognized it for what it is--I would have alerted a DU jury.
merrily
Jun 2015
#721
Locking. TOS does not specify whether calling out DUers applies to current or former members.
randome
Jun 2015
#152
If a female candidate for the nomination can't be called a C-word on DU, what???
CreekDog
Jun 2015
#260
I have nothing to lose, so I'm going to say it. The banning was biased.
ScreamingMeemie
Jun 2015
#194
I wonder what can be done about trolls who follow posters around and make smart ass
randys1
Jun 2015
#262
The man was a genius, and he was not politically correct. His standards were quite high
randys1
Jun 2015
#421
There are consequences to the words we use, for me, you, and the late George Carlin...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2015
#351
He's not silenced, and he may continue to use that word indiscriminately should he so choose.
LanternWaste
Jun 2015
#394
The word does not belong here. Anyone copying and pasting can blank out letters, just as they would
merrily
Jun 2015
#792
Agreed, I hope he will be allowed back. He was a long time member and it's sad to see this
Autumn
Jun 2015
#696
I "don't have a dog in this hunt" and don't think I've run across this guy before, but....
George II
Jun 2015
#245
It was crystal clear what he was doing, and yes he was calling her that name
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#273
had him pegged as a shitbag after he posted the gun porn thread in GD after the Newtown shooting
KG
Jun 2015
#253
I will miss NYC_SKP. We did not always agree, but I think that banning him for making a joke
JDPriestly
Jun 2015
#258
No, false equivalency on your part. "Dick" is in no way in the same category
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#276
It's not fully equivalent for anyone who actually speaks American English
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#294
Sanders has attracted a lot of people who just plain hate Hillary Clinton.
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#287
I agree with you one hundred percent that it reflects on Sanders in no way.
NCTraveler
Jun 2015
#346
It's a way of separating the true Bernie supporters vs the hatewagon crowd nt
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#358
His posts were becoming so vitriolic and rabid that I'm not surprised by this outcome.
Metric System
Jun 2015
#780
That was a dumb and offensive thing to write. I wonder, though, if his banning was
morningfog
Jun 2015
#304
SKP's demeanor changed. It wasn't just that we supported different candidates, it was personal.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2015
#311
That may be a plausible explanation. However, if that's the case, perhaps this isn't the place for
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2015
#323
It would not surprise me if many of us "Block Members" on this list to be banned
Purveyor
Jun 2015
#325
Are you suggesting that people on that list are likely to call Clinton the c-word?
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#331
I never knew until now, given his posts, that he was part of the HRC group
nadinbrzezinski
Jun 2015
#335
OMG! It took him all of 3 minutes to make a reply so lets haul out the {{{crickets}}}
Purveyor
Jun 2015
#417
Nothing worthy of responding to. I merily speculated the future here at DU. eom
Purveyor
Jun 2015
#404
Okay, I think I caught up to what happened… stupid decision to provoke privileges, IYAM
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2015
#953
he became a target of at least two, largely non-overlapping, gangs of harassers
carolinayellowdog
Jun 2015
#355
I am very upset about it. So angry I may have to take a break or risk banning.
madfloridian
Jun 2015
#367
I agree. I could live with a hide, even suspension. But a ban is over the top...
Eleanors38
Jun 2015
#773
I wouldn't give either one of the two that title... so I'm not sure which is which.
ScreamingMeemie
Jun 2015
#372
message sent...... Don't call Hillary a c*nt... seems simple enough, wouldn't you say?
boston bean
Jun 2015
#446
I alerterd when I saw it used on Plain or Bachman because it's not okay against any woman.
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#484
Sanders & Clinton threads quickly come and go. But a thread about a banned DUer garners 400 replies.
randome
Jun 2015
#396
Think that is bad, try wasting time by posting actual news articles and see how lonely that is. eom
Purveyor
Jun 2015
#424
Banning a long time Du'er who has contributed a lot here doesn't seem liberal to me
The Straight Story
Jun 2015
#415
Witch hunting is a lesser issue that people alerting on posters who hurt their feelings
Gormy Cuss
Jun 2015
#652
Another nice try - you know I didn't say that. If you think I did - back it up :)
The Straight Story
Jun 2015
#629
guess he is allowed to start fresh with a new name. really was a very disrespectful remark.
Sunlei
Jun 2015
#516
"You know, this would be a good time for Kucinich and other progressives to rally around Obama".
Zorra
Jun 2015
#473
I often disagree with NYC_SKP; I agree with the ban hammer here; but I'd also support a 2nd chance
Algernon Moncrieff
Jun 2015
#479
perhaps post on admin page and suggest a week or two ban for that type of comment
Sunlei
Jun 2015
#536
I have gone and read the link. I think NYC SKP got a bum deal. If I wre to refer to a cunning stunt
peacebird
Jun 2015
#502
Until this thread I had never heard that cunning stunt was code for anything. I still say its
peacebird
Jun 2015
#550
I didn't know about "See you next Tuesday" until I relayed a bizarre story to a coworker
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#565
Nevermind... The googles told me.......Ok, now I have to ask. What does 'see you next Tuesday' mean?
peacebird
Jun 2015
#576
The See you = CU! Wasn't obvious to me, and puzzling because I said I'd never be back!
bettyellen
Jun 2015
#607
It's sad, but justified. SKP morphed into rabidness as soon as HRC entered the race.
Hekate
Jun 2015
#513
So who the hell is going to continually admonish me for having a loud motorcycle now?
Glassunion
Jun 2015
#541
SKP got banned for half-cleverly calling Hillary Clinton the c-word in exactly the same
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#612
And when you're ripping of Drudge, you've hit some kind of low in trolling nt
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#620
Be civil when you post, don't post insults or nasty language. It isn't that difficult.
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#645
ambivalence and complexity are human, whereas lockstep ideological solidarity seems...
carolinayellowdog
Jun 2015
#632
This is exactly like Drudge calling Cindy Sheehan's arrest a "cunning stunt"
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#598
Lotta crocodile tears being shed for ol' NYC_SKP by supporters of She Who Must Be Obeyed
tularetom
Jun 2015
#624
Wait, you admit that word provoked you to violence but think it's perfectly
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#642
I think he lost the plot due to his intense hatred of Clinton, to the point
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#768
no, as a man I can tell you that virtually no man views "prick" and "dick"
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#726
I don't know. I look at what is in question here, and I am not laughing. nt
boston bean
Jun 2015
#762
Did you not read the Terms of Service when you signed up? "By registering a Democratic Underground
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#756
Yeah, that was pretty amazing, but I guess it's a lot easier to blame the people
geek tragedy
Jun 2015
#774
There's no place for that word used that way here. As much as I enjoy 90% of NYC, he had to know....
marble falls
Jun 2015
#775
It is sad to think that some people think that the "C" word is acceptable as honest critique
Agnosticsherbet
Jun 2015
#786
I fail to see how calling any particular woman ANY name ... is derogatory to all women ... baffled
brett_jv
Jun 2015
#796
I think there should be boundaries and racist and sexist and homophobic name calling should be one
uponit7771
Jun 2015
#806
He is just the latest in a long line of posters here that get sucked into GD and start taking
Number23
Jun 2015
#797
If you paid attention to this poster's imput after Sandy Hook, you'd be wondering who the "real"
KittyWampus
Jun 2015
#810
You are mistaken, he called no one any such thing, very dishonest of you, unbelievably so in fact.
Dragonfli
Jun 2015
#815
I alerted on this OP as being Meta. The hosts are locking all the other threads about NYC_SKP
darkangel218
Jun 2015
#844
It seems those other posts were locked for complaining, per Skinner's pinned thread, top of forum
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#864
A poster messes up in ONE post, and you think he should be permanently banned????
darkangel218
Jun 2015
#875
Well all other posts now about this are locked. This one just keeps on going.
madfloridian
Jun 2015
#893
revealing of the costs and risks of investing great time and energy in an online forum
carolinayellowdog
Jun 2015
#948
A bullshit, biased decision. This sort of shit is the reason I stopped donating. /nt
Marr
Jun 2015
#912
Going for 1,000. The topics really hit a nerve here, but it was not "just one post"....
Hekate
Jun 2015
#984
For post 999, here's a brief exchange between NYC_SKP and EarlG from Sept '13
Electric Monk
Jun 2015
#999
nothing, but if he's banned by IP address, he has to get a lot more inventive than that nt
steve2470
Jun 2015
#1070
Exactly! Only reason I didn't mention SH is because I was not a part of DU then (nt)
LostOne4Ever
Jun 2015
#1050
None of his defenders will even attempt to address the facts of those Hebdo or Sandy Hook posts
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#1068
It is victim blaming. Victim blaming people who were brutally murdered. n/t
LostOne4Ever
Jun 2015
#1084