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SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
51. Didn't Bitcoins sky rocket in value a few years
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:06 PM
Jul 2015

ago for some completely unfathomable reason? Maybe people were speculating in them, don't know for sure.

But one thing that makes me quite wary is that they are something that can simply be created from nothing, supposedly at a steady rate until some point about thirty years from now when no more will be allowed to be created.

I can tell you that if someone offered to pay me in Bitcoins I'd tell them, no thank you. And if someone else only wanted Bitcoins I'd likewise tell them no thank you.

They really do seem much more like a slightly clever Ponzi scheme than real money.

And digital publishing has made me completely unwilling to buy anything that's self-published because invariably it's crap. Recently I purchased a self- published book written by someone here on DU, and had I had a chance to look at the physical book I absolutely would not have bought it, because the formatting was so terrible: extremely narrow margins, paragraphs not indented with a space between each. This was the physical book, and apparently the author had farmed out the formatting to someone and had never bothered to look at the result. It might be interesting enough to read, but I won't be bothering to read it, and very much regret the money I spent. If Bitcoins are the equivalent, then they will be like all those self-published books out there that aren't worth buying.

I dont understand what bitcoin is or does randys1 Jul 2015 #1
Here ya go TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #2
thanks...hmmm...so it is money sort of but you dont have to buy itto use it? weird randys1 Jul 2015 #3
I don't believe in bit coin, sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #4
Well, do you trust math or politicians and bankers more? TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #5
Yeah, that's some really shitty analysis. jeff47 Jul 2015 #9
You didn't understand that at all. TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #19
No, I did understand it. They're bullshiting. jeff47 Jul 2015 #36
I trust them more than fly by night bullshitters eridani Jul 2015 #21
You dodged the issue... TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #22
Bitcoin whackjobs aren't accountable to anyone eridani Jul 2015 #74
Unless someone comes up with an algorithmetic breakthrough that reanders this nice graphic moot. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #68
If governments started to accept tax payments in bitcoin do you think that would be a tipping point? PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #31
Um Munificence Jul 2015 #46
I'm just learning about it and I azmom Jul 2015 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2015 #7
It has been suggested that bitcoin could be a way out of the crisis for Greece KamaAina Jul 2015 #8
I'm going to file that under "outrageous bluff" - they'd just go back to the drachma. PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #34
The OP is correct, bitcoin is to banking as Napster was to Music JCMach1 Jul 2015 #10
Napster went bankrupt and disappeared, are you saying that's the fate of bitcoin? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #33
Incorrect analogy there. TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #53
meaning paradigm shift that markets are too slow to account for... JCMach1 Jul 2015 #57
I have two main issues with crypto currencies. Even if I could be convinced... PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #59
Encryption is based on Math... Math doesn't typically have a backdoor, that's one of the brilliant JCMach1 Jul 2015 #61
Math is subject to algorithmic breakthroughs that make 'previously thought impractical' PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #63
In the meantime, new Cryptocoins are lightyears beyond SHA256 JCMach1 Jul 2015 #65
So I take it youll be stopping using the internet? TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #69
I don't view the Internet as being completely secure, do you? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #70
Bitcoin was created by and for goldbugs. It's not going to become the new standard. jeff47 Jul 2015 #11
One data point a trend does not make. TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #12
You think a report from 2004 covers the recession that started in 2008. jeff47 Jul 2015 #14
Nope. Wrong again. TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #16
So you're not bothering to actually read anything, are you? jeff47 Jul 2015 #40
Nice try... TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #52
"look at greece" - you mean forces a country to actually have to collect taxes from the wealthy? PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #29
Nope. It means you have to go through "internal devaluation", aka deflation. jeff47 Jul 2015 #37
Some countries will do anything other than actually collect taxes from the rich. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #42
Let's pretend they managed to get a 100% collection rate. jeff47 Jul 2015 #44
Um Munificence Jul 2015 #45
Um, you realize that dividing it is deflation, correct? jeff47 Jul 2015 #47
We Munificence Jul 2015 #50
Uh, no thanks PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #13
It has plently of intrinsic value. TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #17
It is of no value to me. PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #20
Oh, I could care less about that. TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #23
"intrinsic value" arguments are silly until the day no one accepts your currency and you realize... PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #43
"For the most part, gold isn’t all that useful" - I guess I must be imagining the number of useful PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #27
Bitcoin could *maybe* find a niche in the Western Union cemaphonic Jul 2015 #15
Partly right. TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #18
Bitcoin can be used for Trolley fare to the Neighborhood of Make-Believe. Orrex Jul 2015 #24
It also appeals to a lot of large companies that accept it. Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #25
Well no kidding. Since it's backed by actual money, why wouldn't they accept it? Orrex Jul 2015 #26
That's the whole point of words like trust and stability. Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #72
They accept only because there's another company that is willing to instantly convert it PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #28
Thank you. Orrex Jul 2015 #38
And you never know when someone is going to stop acepting your 'flooz', it can happen quickily... PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #39
Exactly. Cassidy1 Jul 2015 #73
Well it's used enough to apparently scare a major bank. TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #32
The bitterness of its acolytes is all I need to convince me that it's crap. Orrex Jul 2015 #35
Interesting... TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #54
Your question is nonsensical and betrays a misunderstanding of commerce Orrex Jul 2015 #55
Oh, are we starting a new conversation now? TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #56
Perhaps you should restate your point. Orrex Jul 2015 #58
No - not at all the point I was going to make. TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #66
One employee of a singular bank allowing an analysis doesn't really seem to rise to the level of LanternWaste Jul 2015 #49
"the TECHNOLOGY underpinning bitcoin has the potential to make existing companies redundant,..." Hortensis Jul 2015 #30
Those evil big banks... and Wallstreet JCMach1 Jul 2015 #62
Value is a funny thing The2ndWheel Jul 2015 #41
I wear a big tinfoil hat when it comes to bitcoin... hunter Jul 2015 #48
Didn't Bitcoins sky rocket in value a few years SheilaT Jul 2015 #51
Unlike bitcoin, which I wouldn't accept as payment for anything... hunter Jul 2015 #64
Books on demand are one thing. SheilaT Jul 2015 #71
And then there is Goldman Sachs' $50 mill investment in a Bitcoin- Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #60
Also, there is at least one member of Goldman Sachs... TampaAnimusVortex Jul 2015 #67
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