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Octafish

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184. The way the playing field is currently laid out, no.

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 10:34 PM

Jul 2015

Wanna know where a lot of the $32 trillion "gained" over 32 years of Trickle Down economics -- including a buttload "lost" in the great Bankster Bailout -- went?

Check Out Who's Hiding $32 Trillion in Offshore Tax Haven Accounts

EXCERPT...

Some $32 trillion has been hidden in small island banking hubs which host a bevy of trust funds, shell corporations and other tax havens, the Tax Justice Network estimates.

SNIP...

The information is still being sifted through, even as it's being released to the public, but here's some of what's been found so far:

■ American Denise Rich, ex-wife of pardoned tax cheat Marc Rich, has been uncovered as the settlor and beneficiary of two large trusts based in the tiny Cook Islands. The ICIJ found that Denise Rich gave up her American citizenship in 2012. Her citizenship was convenient enough when President Clinton had the authority to pardon her ex-husband.

■ French President Francois Hollande, ardent socialist and tireless champion of the 75% marginal tax rate, appears in these documents, mostly by association. His campaign co-treasurer, Jean-Jacques Augier, has been forced to reveal the name of his Chinese business partner in a Caymans-based distribution company. Augier says he used his offshore company to make a large investment in China.

■ Australian actor Paul Hogan, of "Crocodile Dundee" fame, has lost about $35.3 million from an account that he used to offshore his "bonza" film royalties. His once-trusted tax adviser Philip Egglishaw ran off with Hogan's sizeable hidden offshore stash.

■ French banking scion Elie de Rothschild, of the famous banking family, has been named in the leaks. He was instrumental in setting up some 20 trusts and 10 holding companies in the Cook Islands, all extremely opaque in nature. His heirs have, not surprisingly, refused comment.

■ Brigitte Bardot's third ex-husband, Gunter Sachs, a millionaire industrialist, has been revealed as the owner of a huge, obscure wealth-masking machine: trust upon shell company upon holding company, almost ad infinitum, mostly based in the Cook Islands. The ICIJ has constructed an interactive map of Sachs' extensive offshore holdings and business networks. The network is fairly representative of the steps that many on this list have taken to hide their wealth away. You can marvel at its imponderable complexity here.

And these names are barely the tip of the iceberg. The shockwaves have already begun to spread through the corridors of wealth and power all over the world.

How Much is $32 Trillion?

It bears repeating: $32 trillion has been stashed away, off the books, by corporations and wealthy individuals.

CONTINUED...

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40250.html

Offshore loot also represents money made from trafficking in drugs, guns and people. So...what can we do about it?

On My Mind

Tax Offshore Wealth Sitting In First World Banks

James S. Henry
07.01.10, 09:00 AM EDT
Forbes Magazine dated July 19, 2010

Let's tax offshore private wealth.

How can we get the world's wealthiest scoundrels--arms dealers, dictators, drug barons, tax evaders--to help us pay for the soaring costs of deficits, disaster relief, climate change and development? Simple: Levy a modest withholding tax on untaxed private offshore loot.

Many aboveground economies around the world are struggling, but the economic underground is booming. By my estimate, there is $15 trillion to $20 trillion in private wealth sitting offshore in bank accounts, brokerage accounts and hedge fund portfolios, completely untaxed.

SNIP...

This wealth is concentrated. Nearly half of it is owned by 91,000 people--[font color="green"]0.001% of the world's population[/font color]. Ninety-five percent is owned by the planet's wealthiest 10 million people.

SNIP...

Is it feasible? Yes. The majority of offshore wealth is managed by 50 banks. As of September 2009 these banks accounted for $10.8 trillion of offshore assets--72% of the industry's total. The busiest 10 of them manage 40%.

CONTINUED....

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0719/opinions-taxation-tax-havens-banking-on-my-mind.html

Not only would that money balance the budget, erase the debt and fix the nation and world's problems from hunger and homeless to energy and education; it would free humanity to do better things than make war all the time.

PS: Thank you for fighting the good fight and never giving up, niyad. Weren't for you and a bunch of good DUers, it'd be nigh-impossible to continue.

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Sick bastards! Kicking AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #1

It's been a long, long run of helping the Have-Mores become the Have-Most. Octafish Jul 2015 #5

I may not always reply madokie Jul 2015 #7

+1 think Jul 2015 #9

Abso-fvcking-lutely. blm Jul 2015 #85

yes G_j Jul 2015 #241

I tried to warn those around me of these sleezy low grade criminals, I was ridiculed AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #14

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Key Word Octafish Jul 2015 #8

k&r questionseverything Jul 2015 #104

You keep on telling it like it is. I'll have your back. shraby Jul 2015 #3

Online Covert Actions Octafish Jul 2015 #16

I'm sorry marym625 Jul 2015 #4

He is one of the folks defending Cosby on the basis of "never convicted" stevenleser Jul 2015 #22

I defended the right to be innocent until proven guilty. Octafish Jul 2015 #29

And in fact one of the things I have noticed on MSNBC is that they are doing exactly that. If they jwirr Jul 2015 #98

Um, if Cosby hsn't been proven guilty, then why... Nitram Jul 2015 #102

Uh, because I think even the worst of the BFEE also deserve a fair trial. Octafish Jul 2015 #208

I don't think anyone has said Cosby doesn't deserve a trial. Nitram Jul 2015 #211

You are trying to smear him for defending justice. He clearly is not defending Mr. Cosby. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #57

Smear him? His hypocrisy on Cosby versus pronouncing the BFEE guilty is staggering stevenleser Jul 2015 #62

I thought Foley was never convicted? Isn't he as innocent as a lamb too? bettyellen Jul 2015 #166

I'll bet if we did searches we would find hundreds of examples when he accused folks of things stevenleser Jul 2015 #192

Then GOOGLE and show, stevenleser. Octafish Jul 2015 #205

How many more do you need? We have already mentioned Bush, Cheney and the BFEE. Isn't that enough? stevenleser Jul 2015 #210

So, you've got nothing. Octafish Jul 2015 #217

This is the kind of debater you are. Half a dozen to a dozen of us have provided you several stevenleser Jul 2015 #218

It's a simple question: ''Show where I am wrong.'' Octafish Jul 2015 #236

He is NOT defending Cosby, Steven tkmorris Jul 2015 #90

Oh yes, he is, and he is asserting a standard he never applies elsewhere. It's obvious. stevenleser Jul 2015 #91

he applied a whole other standard of judgment toward Cosby..... bettyellen Jul 2015 #169

Thank you, marym625. Looking back, I admire the overall work as a most splendid smear. Octafish Jul 2015 #26

Well said sir. You, and those that speak the truth will always be a target. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #67

yep nt G_j Jul 2015 #209

Mocking is a tactic used rhett o rick Jul 2015 #68

this post cannot be heaven05 Jul 2015 #113

Hail Bartcop Hail Octafish If the world was fair Joni Ernst would be folding breadbags this summer. IADEMO2004 Jul 2015 #6

The Tea Party's Endgame Octafish Jul 2015 #58

Don't sweat it Octa whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #10

Jury results.......... nc4bo Jul 2015 #20

hahaha` grasswire Jul 2015 #24

This session has been called to resolve a troubling matter. Marty McGraw Jul 2015 #36

well done jury!!! navarth Jul 2015 #42

Thanks to the alerter for the explanation and the indication of a big problem rhett o rick Jul 2015 #54

At this point Nevernose Jul 2015 #153

A 3-4. I see. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #61

Democracy needs treat all the same under the law. What group gets ahead? Octafish Jul 2015 #65

Kick in solidarity nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #11

The CIA Role in the Savings & Loan Crisis Octafish Jul 2015 #69

The whole S&L crisis and Neil Bush's role in it has been allowed to drop into the memory hole! LongTomH Jul 2015 #116

JEB's own role in the S&L thing was overshadowed, if possible, by SILVERADO Neil. Octafish Jul 2015 #139

Kick. madfloridian Jul 2015 #12

The CIA: Banking on Intelligence Octafish Jul 2015 #71

And recommend nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #13

Pete Brewton: The Mafia, CIA & George Bush Octafish Jul 2015 #86

K & huge fucking R CrawlingChaos Jul 2015 #15

NSA docs contradict Bush Jr 9/11 claims Octafish Jul 2015 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #131

Excellent. Thank you Octafish CrawlingChaos Jul 2015 #140

I think the point was that serial rapists are also disdainful BainsBane Jul 2015 #17

Yep. And the analogy is a good one. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #23

Yeah, pretty simple. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #43

And he didn't directly address the issue that this OP is really about. The OP is manipulation stevenleser Jul 2015 #56

Yup... SidDithers Jul 2015 #66

I've asked you over the years to show where I'm wrong about the BFEE. Octafish Jul 2015 #77

The criticism is about your response to Bill Cosby, not Bush BainsBane Jul 2015 #106

No, not really, BainsBane. Octafish Jul 2015 #119

What was the topic of the thread you were in where it was raised? BainsBane Jul 2015 #121

''Whoopi is still saying Cosby innocent until proven guilty'' Octafish Jul 2015 #124

You are correct that he LEGALLLY has not been found guilty BainsBane Jul 2015 #132

Then why make a big deal of what I didn't say? Octafish Jul 2015 #137

You chose to write an OP BainsBane Jul 2015 #151

You claim Foley is guilty- but that statute of limitations ran out too. Same shit, different story bettyellen Jul 2015 #170

And with his response to you, down you go down the rabbit hole. He's even telling you what you stevenleser Jul 2015 #120

Please show where I wrote any of that. Octafish Jul 2015 #123

I am genuinely puzzled by the double standard. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #73

This is what I have come to expect from discussions with that person stevenleser Jul 2015 #75

OMG, and he did it to Sid just above. Exactly the kind of crap I said he does. stevenleser Jul 2015 #81

So now I can't reply on my own thread? Octafish Jul 2015 #82

Yes, of course that's what my comment means. Strawman much? Actually calling that a strawman is stevenleser Jul 2015 #83

Right. Like 'taking some piece of what the person actually said and twisting it' isn't what you did. Octafish Jul 2015 #88

Nope, and several other folks agreed that is the upshot of what you wrote. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #89

'Make the comparison between his positions on Cosby and the BFEE and he accuses you of supporting... Octafish Jul 2015 #92

Here, you accused me of supporting the BFEE. "Stick with the BFEE Stevenleser" stevenleser Jul 2015 #94

Because that was the subject of the post? Octafish Jul 2015 #97

Explain to me why you think a serial rapist with 48 complaints BainsBane Jul 2015 #108

Hoist on his own whatchamacallit! bettyellen Jul 2015 #173

Over 24 hours later and the response to you is <crickets> stevenleser Jul 2015 #252

Yeah. Like where I've asked you up and down this thread to show where I'm wrong. Octafish Jul 2015 #274

I've shown you. Bainsbane has shown you, BettyEllen has shown you stevenleser Jul 2015 #275

Yup. zappaman Jul 2015 #277

Repeating the same strawman over and over doesn't make it correct, stevenleser. Octafish Jul 2015 #78

This OP and the links I provided where folks can read the other comments is all the evidence I need. stevenleser Jul 2015 #79

No. The Point Is JUSTICE. Octafish Jul 2015 #148

Justice indeed BainsBane Jul 2015 #152

I didn't know I had to write what you wanted me to write. Octafish Jul 2015 #154

I asked you questions, which you consistently refuse to answer BainsBane Jul 2015 #155

Not really, when you look at what I wrote and what you asked. Octafish Jul 2015 #157

Interested in discussion? BainsBane Jul 2015 #158

Dude... OnyxCollie Jul 2015 #18

How VP Poppy Bush of CIA got real big when Pruneface Raygun was ''Head Honcho'' Octafish Jul 2015 #95

You're one of the most right-on DU'ers of all. I treasure your posts, and the knowlege behind them. NBachers Jul 2015 #19

One Morn' in Sherwood Forest... Octafish Jul 2015 #115

The all American fascist family. n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #21

Experts Agree! Octafish Jul 2015 #122

K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #25

Is David Petraeus Dirty? Ted Westhusing Said So, and Then He Shot Himself. Octafish Jul 2015 #130

Yes She Does... Thank You For That !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #136

Ha I have connections to both Bushes and Smedly Butler (my Grandfather met and admired him). gordianot Jul 2015 #27

Smedley Butler is STILL considered a real hero to jomin41 Jul 2015 #87

My kids never heard of Butler from school before 2004, I made sure they did. gordianot Jul 2015 #103

Glad you are. Great family and a great family name, Bush. Octafish Jul 2015 #161

Odd my relative met his cousin Bush on his Grandfathers oil field in Kansas. gordianot Jul 2015 #183

k and r and bookmarking for later reading. niyad Jul 2015 #28

Remember how Rove really liked to fire and promote US Attorneys? Octafish Jul 2015 #168

oh, how well I remember (and wish I could forget) old turd blossom. niyad Jul 2015 #171

Too many don't know what they've done to the country and to Don Siegelman. Octafish Jul 2015 #177

there are days I don't think we can ever set things right. niyad Jul 2015 #180

The way the playing field is currently laid out, no. Octafish Jul 2015 #184

Octafish, you're one of the reasons I still send people to DU. canoeist52 Jul 2015 #30

The Bush dynasty and the Cuban criminals Octafish Jul 2015 #188

I would never mock you for your post. SoapBox Jul 2015 #31

Mark Lombardi knew Bush-Bath-bin-Laden connection in 1999. Octafish Jul 2015 #189

Keep it up. Too many want to whitewash the past and "move-on". jalan48 Jul 2015 #32

The Rise of a ‘Democratic’ Fascism Octafish Jul 2015 #190

The day you get drummed out of here, is the day this Cleita Jul 2015 #33

+100000000 nashville_brook Jul 2015 #39

I think Cosby is a creepy rapist Hydra Jul 2015 #34

Some never get the opportunity. Remember GOP US Attorney John David R. Atchison? Octafish Jul 2015 #141

I remember the case being posted here, and the Repubs being upset about it being their team again Hydra Jul 2015 #187

A lot of them settled in Huntsville, helping the Army build rockets, boosters, and what-all. Octafish Jul 2015 #194

Keep 'em coming!!! malaise Jul 2015 #35

NONE of this is old news, malaise. Especially to those touched by BFEE. Octafish Jul 2015 #197

There's a lot of child preadators and serial adulterers popping up in the GOP lately. Initech Jul 2015 #37

What to those who kill millions for oil and gold is abusing a child? Octafish Jul 2015 #198

I remember when the Sandusky scandal broke. Initech Jul 2015 #204

Strange how quickly the 'media' forget. Remember that nice juvie Judge in business with the prisons? Octafish Jul 2015 #206

K&R 2naSalit Jul 2015 #38

Poppy Bush Strikes Gold! Octafish Jul 2015 #199

You're quite welcome Octafish... 2naSalit Jul 2015 #300

strange days. thank you for the work you do! nashville_brook Jul 2015 #40

The Machine: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda vs Freedom & Liberty Octafish Jul 2015 #200

You're one of the few out there always worth reading. rwsanders Jul 2015 #41

BFEE judge Silberman compared people who say ''Bush lied America into war'' to NAZIs. Octafish Jul 2015 #203

K&R&bookmark. JEB Jul 2015 #44

Banksters plus secret inside information is Wall Street on the Potomac. Octafish Jul 2015 #242

Same here RobertEarl Jul 2015 #45

That is all I want. Octafish Jul 2015 #256

Thanks, Octafish. Love your posts, and this one was no exception. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #46

BFEE think they're above the law, which is different than just breaking it. Octafish Jul 2015 #257

Well done! Duppers Jul 2015 #47

You made my day, 5-4. Octafish Jul 2015 #258

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #48

You gotta go BFEE to get along in Iraq. Look who they sent to run the war. Octafish Jul 2015 #259

I only wish we could get justice. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #270

BRAVO! BRAVO! ........and is Bush... Hotler Jul 2015 #49

That is the fake journalist Jeff Gannon aka The Cannon, on-call 24/7. Octafish Jul 2015 #269

There is a movie out about Johnny Gosh aka Jeff Gannon. Hotler Jul 2015 #288

KnR! Looky here... Holly_Hobby Jul 2015 #50

Bush gave coin to Goldstar mother and said: ''Don't go selling it on e-Bay.'' Octafish Jul 2015 #289

The entire family reeks of Psychopathy on steroids Holly_Hobby Jul 2015 #291

* ''No WMDs here.'' Octafish Jul 2015 #292

Family and friends... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #51

I see what you did there. .... nc4bo Jul 2015 #53

Hard to tell who's spying on whom in that shot. Octafish Jul 2015 #290

Just another tool looking for their 15 minutes- sent here to distract. notadmblnd Jul 2015 #52

A missing art. Octafish Jul 2015 #293

I have learned so much from your azmom Jul 2015 #55

Key to present day: Secret Service didn't like African Americans in 1963. Ask Agent Abraham Bolden. Octafish Jul 2015 #295

k&r.. jiminey christmas!. . . . .n/t annabanana Jul 2015 #59

Corruption Touched CIA’s Covert Operations Octafish Jul 2015 #296

I wonder Octa.. annabanana Jul 2015 #299

A shot of Chinaco to Bartcop for teaching me about the BFEE corkhead Jul 2015 #60

You know who else Bartcop seemed to enjoy going after, corkhead? Pirates! Octafish Jul 2015 #297

Thank you very much. Bookmarking. SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #63

Thank you, SusanCalvin. I agree 100-percent. Octafish Jul 2015 #298

Kickin'....!!!! (eom) CanSocDem Jul 2015 #64

Richard Nixon's Blueprint for the 21st Century US Octafish Jul 2015 #302

Who is mocking? PM me. lonestarnot Jul 2015 #70

Post on, My Friend, post on! The BFEE and their sycophants are endemic of the fetid rot that... Raster Jul 2015 #72

Harold Pinter - Nobel Lecture on Truth, War and the Big Lie Octafish Jul 2015 #303

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2015 #74

I've learned much from this OP but better yet... chknltl Jul 2015 #76

''No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money.'' -- Dr. Samuel Johnson. Octafish Jul 2015 #304

I noticed you never got an answer to your question about Cosby. Rex Jul 2015 #80

That's a sign, an inability to focus on the point and a talent to promote the freak show. Octafish Jul 2015 #305

Salute to my compatriot, Octafish. blm Jul 2015 #84

Dude, that's a bad case of bait-and-switch. How dishonest Android3.14 Jul 2015 #93

Exactly. Par from the course with him. And debates with him are like going down the rabbit hole stevenleser Jul 2015 #101

Yep BainsBane Jul 2015 #109

K&R for one of the best. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #96

Kick. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #99

K & R SalviaBlue Jul 2015 #105

I always bookmark your threads, O-Fish arikara Jul 2015 #107

Illegitimi non carborundum Demeter Jul 2015 #110

I will NEVER mock the truth heaven05 Jul 2015 #111

Hanging's too good for them. hifiguy Jul 2015 #112

K&R Paka Jul 2015 #114

Another K&R Keep posting about the BFEE LongTomH Jul 2015 #117

And let us not forget Marvin Bush... Gumboot Jul 2015 #118

Please. YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #125

I don't want any sympathy. Octafish Jul 2015 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #129

I don't blame you. Here is my reaction... stevenleser Jul 2015 #147

When you don't have an argument, use an emoticon. Octafish Jul 2015 #149

. stevenleser Jul 2015 #150

''Unlike Octafish, I do my homework.'' -- stevenleser of DU Octafish Jul 2015 #156

See post #218 above. That will become a standard response to you. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #219

Your words, stevenleser. Octafish Jul 2015 #254

I've got your back, and I always will. A small handful of dead-enders can make lots of noise. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #127

Kick!!! haikugal Jul 2015 #128

Anywho, a reminder: YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #133

Of course it's a conspiracy, using position and power to enrich one's cronies. Octafish Jul 2015 #138

I do miss his silver hammer. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #134

Keep yer mighty pen a'flowin, Octafish. seafan Jul 2015 #135

So basically ablamj Jul 2015 #142

LOL! Anything to say about what I actually wrote -- on this thread or anywhere? Octafish Jul 2015 #143

i'm trying to figure ablamj Jul 2015 #144

When you figure it out let me know. I've been down the rabbit hole with him on this for two days now stevenleser Jul 2015 #146

I'm sure you're right ablamj Jul 2015 #160

Justice demands prosecution of traitors, war criminals, mass murderers, war profiteers and thieves. Octafish Jul 2015 #162

yes(see post 160) ablamj Jul 2015 #163

Yes I do. Octafish Jul 2015 #164

But do you personally believe ablamj Jul 2015 #172

apparently serial rapists are easy to ignore- women don't rate as important enough to get justice bettyellen Jul 2015 #176

While that may be your point, bettyellen, that's not what I think or wrote. Octafish Jul 2015 #196

Why don't you ablamj Jul 2015 #264

It also demands justice of rapists. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #245

Exactly- Octafish gets to judge who is criminal- the rest of us should STFU. Unless we agree! bettyellen Jul 2015 #175

Show where I've ever posted someone ''to STFU'' bettyellen. Octafish Jul 2015 #178

you posted about Foley - crimes not found- as guilty but just cannot say it about Cosby, LOL.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #179

All sorts of crimes regarding Foley were found. Octafish Jul 2015 #182

'Florida closes Foley investigation without charges" so by your Cosby standards, also innocent. bettyellen Jul 2015 #185

Not at all. Unlike you, Hastert & Boehner, I find the evidence compelling. Octafish Jul 2015 #195

As is the much testimony against Cosby, his lies and confession of employing drugs. bettyellen Jul 2015 #201

And note he wrote "Unlike you" accusing you of not finding the evidence against Foley compelling stevenleser Jul 2015 #212

Yeah, most of his replies have nothing to do with his dislike of calling Cos a rapist. bettyellen Jul 2015 #213

And he again asked upthread to provide examples of when he has accused other people of stuff stevenleser Jul 2015 #215

Lol, anything to deflect how he is basically a traitor to womankind. Society deserves protection.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #216

So now I'm a ''traitor to womankind''? Nice smear, bettyellen. Guess that's the best you can do... Octafish Jul 2015 #229

Another reply that has nothing to do with defending Cosby, LOL. bettyellen Jul 2015 #247

Sadly it is all too common BainsBane Jul 2015 #232

And we can't get through to him. He uses all these weird defense mechanisms instead of listening. stevenleser Jul 2015 #243

''The fact is that posting on DU is not 'fighting fascism''' -- stevenleser Octafish Jul 2015 #301

Keep it up carla Jul 2015 #145

Your Links and DU Posts are a "DU Treasure"..... KoKo Jul 2015 #159

I though Foley's case had "no criminal finding" so he's no more guilty than your BFF, Cosby.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #165

Florida dropped the case on grounds of ''insufficient evidence'' meaning GOP Congress covered up. Octafish Jul 2015 #181

LOL, and no one covered for Cosby. Sounds like two innocent lambs with conspiracy theories bettyellen Jul 2015 #186

Foley was in charge of protecting 'Missing and Exploited Children' Octafish Jul 2015 #191

No one accused you or "covering it up"? WTF? He wasn't found guilty- so he's not guilty according to your bettyellen Jul 2015 #193

Octafish, I love you. You obviously care enough to dig deep and hard towards AikidoSoul Jul 2015 #167

Too many links, just give us poor bastards some drugs ... seveneyes Jul 2015 #174

So…everything you posted about BFEE is wrong because… Bill Cosby? tularetom Jul 2015 #202

nope, you have that exactly backwards. His hypocrisy on Bill Cosby is somehow OK because he hates stevenleser Jul 2015 #220

Does Roger Ailes let you talk about anything related to the BFEE on tee vee? Octafish Jul 2015 #223

I'm not a Fox employee. So I can say anything I want. And we have proved you wrong dozens of times stevenleser Jul 2015 #225

Would you be if they offered you a job? Cleita Jul 2015 #230

You want me to publicly speculate on a nonexistent job offer? Yeah, that would be a good idea. stevenleser Jul 2015 #233

Why such umbrage? Cleita Jul 2015 #239

See Bainbanes #238 below, she says it better than I could stevenleser Jul 2015 #240

Sorry, the hypocrisy isn't apparent from where I'm standing tularetom Jul 2015 #226

Nope, there are half a dozen of us pointing out the same thing, so its not me. Nice try though. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #227

What I find interesting is exactly that tkmorris Jul 2015 #276

No. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #285

Fox News Contributors MoveIt Jul 2015 #207

There are no Fox News Contributors on DU. At least none that I am aware of. There are guests stevenleser Jul 2015 #214

Guest? Octafish Jul 2015 #221

Yes, guest, just like when I have been a guest on RT and elsewhere stevenleser Jul 2015 #224

By the way, am permalinking and sending this to my journal for reference to your ad hominems stevenleser Jul 2015 #228

What ad hominem from me? That's how Fox identified you. Octafish Jul 2015 #234

Nope, they wouldn't and never have, because I am not an employee. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #235

So those screen grabs are of someone with the same name as you who looks like you 3 times? Octafish Jul 2015 #265

Whose name should they have. What part of this don't you understand? Nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #267

You got at least three different job descriptions on FOX television. Octafish Jul 2015 #280

At least you've now moved the goalposts to where you are not accusing me of being an employee stevenleser Jul 2015 #281

Where did I accuse you of anything? Octafish Jul 2015 #286

If you mean that guy from that thing, yeah. Octafish Jul 2015 #222

Oh and in other words, you are accusing me of something here, but can't accuse Cosby. stevenleser Jul 2015 #251

Thanks for the welcome! MoveIt Jul 2015 #260

Welcome to DU. zappaman Jul 2015 #261

Who do you think MoveIt was, zappaman? Octafish Jul 2015 #263

Post #108 is awaiting your response zappaman Jul 2015 #266

Thanks for the reminder. Octafish Jul 2015 #272

You're very welcome, my old friend. zappaman Jul 2015 #273

I didn't know I had to answer to anyone. I'm that way with authority. Octafish Jul 2015 #278

No one said you had to, Brad. zappaman Jul 2015 #279

My name's not Brad, zappaman. It's Octafish. Octafish Jul 2015 #282

Have a great weekend, dude! zappaman Jul 2015 #283

You never did show where I am wrong, zappaman. Octafish Jul 2015 #287

Lol, right? Jumping right into a conflict with another DUer isn't remotely suspicious stevenleser Jul 2015 #268

You noticed that? Octafish Jul 2015 #262

Like Dennis Kucinich? BainsBane Jul 2015 #231

Yes, Dennis is a contributor, a paid employee of that network. I'm just a guest. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #237

That they know this originated from a discussion involving you BainsBane Jul 2015 #238

No. It's about Justice. You must have ''forgotten.'' Octafish Jul 2015 #244

And I and every other Democrat on this site agrees that Bush is a lying, asshole BainsBane Jul 2015 #248

Where did I ''dissemble''? I don't like being called a liar, BainsBane. Octafish Jul 2015 #255

They don't care about the women, like you said its a game to them about personalities on DU. stevenleser Jul 2015 #246

If you want to see someone treated as the enemy BainsBane Jul 2015 #249

I did a big piece on rape culture in 2013 with Marcotte and I should show you the stats on that show stevenleser Jul 2015 #250

You know you see it with coverage of the Runaways too.... bettyellen Jul 2015 #253

As should Rothschild family conspiracy theorists. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #284

Right you are. See for yourself. Octafish Jul 2015 #294

K R & B Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #271