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Octafish

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58. J Edgar Hoover is one who didn't tolerate dissent. Not me.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jul 2015

Here's what I think the FBI is capable of doing:

J. Edgar Hoover obstructed Justice in regards to the assassination of President Kennedy.

Special Agent Don Adams of the FBI deserved to be seen and heard by billions. The guy was the real deal, a brave agent who stepped forward. Among his assassination-connected work, FBI Special Agent Don Adams interviewed racist Joseph Adams Milteer, a guy an FBI informant had taped detailing a pre-Dallas plot in Miami.



He wrote a book on the experience:

http://adamsjfk.com/?page_id=30

Why Milteer matters:



Joseph Adams Milteer, the guy Adams was sent to interview, had outlined what would happen in Dallas before it happened. For some reason, Mr. Hoover "let him go."

Then, there's the Hosty note:

FBI Special Agent James HOSTY destroyed evidence: a ''threatening'' note from Oswald.

A couple of weeks before the assassination, Hosty paid a visit to Marina Oswald's residence at the home of Ruth Paine. Hosty was looking for Lee Harvey Oswald, who was not home. Oswald later found out about the visit and stopped by the Dallas FBI office and dropped off a note addressed to Hosty that threatened to "blow up the FBI building" in the words of the secretary who received the note in an unsealed envelope and read it.

Hosty and the FBI never admitted the note's existence until 1975 when the HSCA looked investigated the matter. Hosty said the note was not a threat and, therefore, not material to the case. Investigators believe Dallas SAC Gordon Shanklin ordered the note destroyed on direct orders from FBI Director J Edgar Hoover, a couple of hours after Oswald's own assassination while in police custody.

The note was never mentioned to the Warren Commission.

Destroying evidence is obstruction of justice.

Then, there's the evidence of various threats against President Kennedy that Hoover ignored. Author and former NYT reporter Edwin Black wrote about the Chicago Plot, the same M.O. as Dallas, ambush, high-power rifles, high-rise, and one patsy by the name of Thomas Arthur Vallee, a USMC veteran from a U-2 base in Japan. The plot was broken up by the Secret Service in Chicago. Not that they wanted to, they sort of had to when the local cops got a call from a landlady with the guns, passports, maps and "parade route" in Highlighter still on the bed.

Very important read in PDF:

http://www.thechicagoplot.com/The%20Chicago%20Plot.pdf

You are right, jeff47. "GroupThink" is not the best way of phrasing it. I was asked one thing and now I have to answer for another. So, "Tag Team" is a better term.

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CIA wants to blockade Truth from US! Octafish Jul 2015 #1
Do you think the CIA killed Michael Hastings?...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #2
I don't know. Octafish Jul 2015 #5
I didn't ask you what you know... SidDithers Jul 2015 #6
You should read about Lt. Cmdr. William Bruce PITZER. Octafish Jul 2015 #10
They had the Ability bahrbearian Jul 2015 #7
Hacker remotely crashes Jeep from 10 miles away Octafish Jul 2015 #13
They also had a motive. bahrbearian Jul 2015 #25
There was nothing unusual about Hasting's crash. nt hack89 Jul 2015 #3
Apart from how it happened and when it happened and to whom it happened. Octafish Jul 2015 #8
His wife and brother think is was an accident hack89 Jul 2015 #12
Exactly. It's only the Alex Jones / Wayne Madsen tin-foil loons of the world... SidDithers Jul 2015 #9
Nice smear, especially considering how FBI was targeting Occupy Wall Street for assassination. Octafish Jul 2015 #11
Lindorff. LOL... SidDithers Jul 2015 #14
Dave Lindorff writes for The Nation, as well. Octafish Jul 2015 #15
Nevermind that people reading that "smoking gun" memo NuclearDem Jul 2015 #16
Yup... SidDithers Jul 2015 #18
Show the ''CT.'' Otherwise all you are doing is smearing by allegation. Octafish Jul 2015 #30
And never will. elias49 Jul 2015 #34
. randome Jul 2015 #38
Thanks Randome. But I don't look like that any more. elias49 Jul 2015 #41
Truth hurts you now doesn't it!? Rex Jul 2015 #55
I don't mind people disagreeing... Octafish Jul 2015 #43
Truth hurts the tiny group here that TEE HEE giggles about the BFEE and their warmongering ways. Rex Jul 2015 #56
Thanks, Rex! For some reason, what's on DU isn't on ABCNNBCBSFakeNoiseNutworks. Octafish Jul 2015 #59
Notice that too did you? Also do you notice how they seem to know so much about the Foxnews noise Rex Jul 2015 #60
Anyone remember PFC Manning and what Manning did with WikiLeaks? Octafish Jul 2015 #64
Wait wait wait....we're supposed to READ the documents? jeff47 Jul 2015 #20
I can't believe that willful mis-reading still has life in it. randome Jul 2015 #28
Here's the FBI memo. Your ''interpretation'' is nowhere in it. Octafish Jul 2015 #29
So, a memo saying "someone is planning to kill leaders via sniper fire" jeff47 Jul 2015 #31
That's not what I wrote, though, is it? Octafish Jul 2015 #32
It was the implication of what you wrote. That the government would be pulling the trigger. jeff47 Jul 2015 #33
That's not what I wrote, though. Octafish Jul 2015 #36
Here is the entirety of what you wrote in the post I am responding to jeff47 Jul 2015 #40
11. Nice smear, especially considering how FBI was targeting Occupy Wall Street for assassination." NuclearDem Jul 2015 #42
Yeah, because the memo. Octafish Jul 2015 #45
Yet neither the memo nor the article make such an argument. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #47
GroupThink Octafish Jul 2015 #50
"Groupthink" is not exclusive to people who disagree with your position. jeff47 Jul 2015 #54
J Edgar Hoover is one who didn't tolerate dissent. Not me. Octafish Jul 2015 #58
Hrm...still no answers to the questions I asked. How odd. jeff47 Jul 2015 #61
I did answer. You don't like it: too bad, so sad. Octafish Jul 2015 #63
Where exactly do you get this interpretation that the FBI was planning to kill OWS leaders? NuclearDem Jul 2015 #35
It is in the FBI memo. Octafish Jul 2015 #37
No, it's not. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #39
No misreading. It's what the memo says. Octafish Jul 2015 #46
...by the third party the FBI was investigating. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #48
Of course, that must be in the redacted portion, as it's not in what readers can see. Octafish Jul 2015 #49
I thought Julian had pretty much been ousted from Wikileaks. randome Jul 2015 #4
Then release some already. Jesus Christ. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #17
It is odd how it is being portrayed as difficult to publish documents on the Internet. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #19
Oh, it's not that it's difficult. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #21
What? It's not like Wikileaks announced they got a trove of Russian documents jeff47 Jul 2015 #23
Oh it's not even necessarily the Russian documents. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #24
Yes, was just an example. jeff47 Jul 2015 #27
K&R elias49 Jul 2015 #22
He is right about that JonLP24 Jul 2015 #26
kick for Marmar, Octafish and Wikileaks. nt navarth Jul 2015 #44
Wake me if he ever starts exposing Russian secrets... Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #51
So the USA is so exceptional that we don't need to clean up our own house? MattSh Jul 2015 #52
Well when JA says the U.S. is the world's biggest Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #62
Assange hiding in Ecuador. Snowden hiding in Russia. Our plan is working. randome Jul 2015 #53
K&R of pissing off all the Right people! Rex Jul 2015 #57
This thread is hilarious! How did I miss it before?! riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #65
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