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In reply to the discussion: Don't link to COUNTERPUNCH. It's a far-RW racist trojan horse (No Click On It) [View all]Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)47. Lists! Yes! Please add the New York Times to our Index Librorum Prohibitorum.
http://www.ianwelsh.net/always-remember-the-nytimes-pushed-hard-for-war-in-iraq/
Always Remember, the NY Times Pushed, Hard, for War in Iraq
2015 MARCH 26
by Ian Welsh
The New York Times is beloved by many liberals, but I despise them. Part of my reason is their role in making the Iraq war happen. I was following it in real time and I remember how they pushed administration lies; the headlines of their articles on Iraq were almost always alarmist and the lead paragraphs were as well. Often enough, the truth would be buried in the equivalent of paragraph twelve.
For those not in the business, heres the rule: Most people only read the headlines and you lose half of those actually reading past the headline incrementally per paragraph. Maybe the Times numbers are slightly better than that (probably because their headlines are truly atrocious and uninformative), but the rule is broadly true and few people are able to write long-form without losing their readers.
The Times is essentially reactionary. A look at their columnists and who they have chosen to be new columnists makes the point: Ross Douthat, the reactionary Catholic? David Brooks, master of the inane right wing observation?
I was reminded of this in the last few days by two articles listed at the very top of their daily newsletters:
Saudi Justice, Harsh but Able to Spare the Sword
Such rulings have prompted comparisons to the Islamic State, which regularly beheads its foes and also claims to apply Shariah law.
But Mr. Yehiya was saved because of checks in the Saudi system on the use of harsh punishments.
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Always Remember, the NY Times Pushed, Hard, for War in Iraq
2015 MARCH 26
by Ian Welsh
The New York Times is beloved by many liberals, but I despise them. Part of my reason is their role in making the Iraq war happen. I was following it in real time and I remember how they pushed administration lies; the headlines of their articles on Iraq were almost always alarmist and the lead paragraphs were as well. Often enough, the truth would be buried in the equivalent of paragraph twelve.
For those not in the business, heres the rule: Most people only read the headlines and you lose half of those actually reading past the headline incrementally per paragraph. Maybe the Times numbers are slightly better than that (probably because their headlines are truly atrocious and uninformative), but the rule is broadly true and few people are able to write long-form without losing their readers.
The Times is essentially reactionary. A look at their columnists and who they have chosen to be new columnists makes the point: Ross Douthat, the reactionary Catholic? David Brooks, master of the inane right wing observation?
I was reminded of this in the last few days by two articles listed at the very top of their daily newsletters:
Saudi Justice, Harsh but Able to Spare the Sword
Such rulings have prompted comparisons to the Islamic State, which regularly beheads its foes and also claims to apply Shariah law.
But Mr. Yehiya was saved because of checks in the Saudi system on the use of harsh punishments.
more...
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Don't link to COUNTERPUNCH. It's a far-RW racist trojan horse (No Click On It) [View all]
uhnope
Jul 2015
OP
You should read more. CounterPunch gives you news and info you won't find anywhere else.
Octafish
Jul 2015
#8
No, the OP says that there are way more wingnut/racist pigs posting there than there are lefties.
MADem
Jul 2015
#103
Counterpunch - How crypto-fascists and white nationalists are infiltrating progressive circles
kfreed
Dec 2015
#158
I like what he wrote about Don Siegelman and the ''corrupt Bush administration.''
Octafish
Jul 2015
#15
I haven't confirmed shit for you. Nor have you shown where you posted once in support of Siegelman.
Octafish
Jul 2015
#18
And if making up your mind is predicated in part on right wing and racist editorials
LanternWaste
Jul 2015
#148
No, just telling me to shut up is enough for me to see what kind of ''DUer'' posts, LanternWaste.
Octafish
Jul 2015
#149
Who would've guessed a Putin and Maduro apologia rag would be home to racist pieces of shit?
NuclearDem
Jul 2015
#5
VDare? Ugh! And PCR is an Infowars, JBS type. And unrepentant father of Reaganomics. Double Ugh. n/t
freshwest
Jul 2015
#7
Posters who insist on linking to that shit after they've been told about it should be banned.
NuclearDem
Jul 2015
#10
Never said it did. You must be used to putting words in other people's mouths.
Octafish
Jul 2015
#23
Absolutely--ND wins, OF comes off looking really bad, and JBerry gets a "Chuckles" prize for the
MADem
Jul 2015
#104
Is there some reason you're interested in linking to a front for white supremacists?
NuclearDem
Jul 2015
#14
There is no wonder about it, everyone here has noticed that too and yet the narrative goes on.
Rex
Jul 2015
#81
Jeff Blankfort is NO White Supremacist! His name does belong on that list and should be
2banon
Jul 2015
#68
Well you know how the Outraged here are always that way about others that are outraged!
Rex
Jul 2015
#84
BTW: The ''meldungen-aus-dem-exil.noblogs.org'' in the OP seems racist against Palestinians.
Octafish
Jul 2015
#30
Lists! Yes! Please add the New York Times to our Index Librorum Prohibitorum.
Karmadillo
Jul 2015
#47
Why are you guys so insistent on being able to link to white supremacists here?
NuclearDem
Jul 2015
#53
Authoritarians need to reaffirm for themselves occasionally their followers are still active and
polly7
Jul 2015
#135
Paul Craig Roberts, the first name on that list, is an anti-immigration white supremacist...
SidDithers
Jul 2015
#60
Please Remove Jeff Blankfort's name. He is Far Left, he's not RW. I know him personally.
2banon
Jul 2015
#63
Please don't think I think that Beltway Wisdom is the center and that deviating from it makes ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jul 2015
#75
I have always thought that Counterpunch is an unselectively anti-establishment site that includes
LeftishBrit
Jul 2015
#93
Israel Shamir is a disgusting anti-Semite, and was used as a source on this site to defend Assange.
msanthrope
Jul 2015
#95
Why did Assange feel the need then to have his employee write such a disgusting defense?
msanthrope
Jul 2015
#100
Oh obviously, not wanting Paul Craig Roberts posted on DU means I just looooove Karl Rove.
tammywammy
Jul 2015
#131
Calling out white supremacist websites is just like the Holocaust and is anti-Democraticy!
Major Nikon
Jul 2015
#134
Presumably, if Stormfront published far Left Progressives, then linking to Stormfront....
shira
Jul 2015
#152
To some it seems like as long as that specific article isn't racist/anti-Semitic/homophobic
tammywammy
Jul 2015
#155
The people crying censorship don't seem to understand how these sites make money.
NuclearDem
Jul 2015
#156
+1. Looks like CP took the place of the crap that used to get posted here from wsws.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2015
#153