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stevenleser

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6. That's not proof. Proof would require that what he asserts would not have been different absent

Reply to n2doc (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:44 AM

Aug 2015

our intervention and concrete evidence that says so.

The change from ISIS gaining territory and being on the offensive to a situation where there is a stalemate is a definite change.

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We're a year into the unofficial war against Isis with nothing to show for it [View all] n2doc Aug 2015 OP

I disagree. They haven't completely overrun all of Syria and Iraq. And they would almost certainly stevenleser Aug 2015 #1

You have no proof of that assertion n/t n2doc Aug 2015 #2

And your and the author's proof of "nothing to show for it" is? nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #3

He states it. ISIS is no less powerful than a year ago n2doc Aug 2015 #5

That's not proof. Proof would require that what he asserts would not have been different absent stevenleser Aug 2015 #6

There is some progress romanic Aug 2015 #4

So what? Kind of a back-handed way to say we should be isolationist, isn't it? randome Aug 2015 #7

ISIS is a Sunni militia backed by the Saudis, Kuwaitis and Qataris GreatGazoo Aug 2015 #8

It's much more complicated than that. stevenleser Aug 2015 #10

Funny, those are our key regional allies. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #11

So what's Timm's solution then, since he has this all figured out? Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #9

Well, it depends on what your definition of ''nothing to show for it'' is. Octafish Aug 2015 #12