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In reply to the discussion: Missed Calls: Is the NSA lying about its failure to prevent 9/11? (James Bamford) [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)9. Looks like a Fortress of Turpitude
The formerly Top Secret record supports what the whistleblowers have reported.
The NSAs 9/11 Cover-Up: General Hayden Told a Lie, and Its a Whopper
by Bill Blunden
CounterPunch, July 30, 2015
EXCERPT...
James Bamford, himself a former NSA whistleblower, digs into Haydens assertions. Leveraging the technical expertise of former NSA insiders he unearths an unsettling find. The narrative spun by Hayden is an absolute lie. The NSA knew damn well that these calls were coming from San Diego. According to former NSA senior executive Thomas Drake:
Every number that comes into that switchboard, if youre cast-iron coverage on that switchboard, you know exactly what that number is and where it comes from. You know exactlyotherwise it cant get there.
Former NSA senior analyst Kirk Wiebe expounds on Drakes counterpoint, noting that telephone communiques are bundled with the bits of information necessary to bill the correct phone company:
You know the phone numbers involved, whos making the phone call, and who its going to because the billing system has to have that metadata to charge you.
So Drake, Wiebe, and other NSA veterans charge that Hayden is full of it. That the NSA was aware of terrorists in San Diego phoning home to Yemen. This raises some important questions. For example, how on earth could an intelligence agency with billions in resources neglect to follow up on these calls? From people whom they knew to be associated with bin Laden? How could internal security services not request court authorization for wiretaps and launch an inquiry? Its a given that any investigator worth their salt wouldve linked and correlated the San Diego callers to other 9/11 terrorists in the United States and almost certainly put a halt to the operation.
There may be those who point to incompetence and embarrassment as a possible explanation. Such people would argue that the NSA is an agency like other agencies made up of people and that people are fallible; the San Diego call was somehow overlooked or was accidentally lost in the commotion of the NSAs monolithic bureaucracy.
Your author questions this account, as it would indicate an organization thats way beyond dysfunctional. Recent disclosures by WikiLeaks describe economic espionage by the United States which depict an NSA thats more than capable of performing SIGINT missions. Other Snowden-era documents also indicate that the NSA runs a world class spy outfit. Consider also that foreign countries like Germany are just itching to be brought into the Five Eyes fold. No keystone cops here, no sir!
CONTINUED...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/30/the-nsas-911-cover-up-general-hayden-told-a-lie-and-its-a-whopper/
Seeing this story confirming our worst fears from 14 years ago is most troubling.
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Missed Calls: Is the NSA lying about its failure to prevent 9/11? (James Bamford) [View all]
Octafish
Sep 2015
OP
But, you know, CIA was designed to be the "fall guy" for Presidential covert activities. Plausible
leveymg
Sep 2015
#24
President Truman didn't expect the cloak and dagger stuff when he signed it into law.
Octafish
Sep 2015
#27
Maybe in the day when the CIA answered to the President. Today, I believe it's the other way
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#33
There were at least 2 Saudi double-agents together in San Diego: al-Midhar and Alwaki
leveymg
Sep 2015
#22
Back at you. Thank you, this would otherwise be a dark blind alley of smoke and mirrors.
leveymg
Sep 2015
#70
Here's the inside story from the FBI liaison at CIA CTC. This has some new info, below
leveymg
Sep 2015
#23
PNAC. The Bush family needed a Reichstag fire type event to jumpstart war in the ME
riderinthestorm
Sep 2015
#41
Reminds me of the English kings plundering other countries and bringing back treasures
Rosa Luxemburg
Sep 2015
#49
Senator Bob Graham was on the trail of these guys, but the FBI refused to issue subpoenas.
seafan
Sep 2015
#18
At the very least, 3000 counts of Negligent Homicide. A multi-count indictment.
leveymg
Sep 2015
#26
The fact that the same close nit group of officials and intelligence agencies 1)"failed" to prevent
GoneFishin
Sep 2015
#13
Bob Graham: FBI hindered Congress’s 9/11 inquiry, withheld reports about Sarasota Saudis
Octafish
Sep 2015
#68
Thanks for the post, seafan, it's very eye-opening. I have never seen this before and I am still
Ghost in the Machine
Sep 2015
#20