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seafan

(9,387 posts)
19. It seems like all the alphabet agencies have an agenda to pursue a coverup.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:34 AM
Sep 2015

Russ Baker on the new Florida evidence that emerged in 2011:


After public disclosure of Saudi involvement in the 9/11 attacks, people in the gated community took note of the rushed departure and disappearance of the Ghazzawi-al-Hiijjiis. After all, the attackers were not just overwhelmingly of Saudi nationality, but three out of four of the future hijackers had lived and trained to fly in Venice, Florida, just 10 miles away from the house.

The complex’s security officer alerted the FBI, which began an investigation into the house at 4224 Escondito Circle. (In addition, a suspicious neighbor alerted the FBI by email on the day of the attacks.)

The Justice Department declined to give the Herald a statement, but, according to an unnamed senior counterterrorism officer who was one of two people who got into the house first and served as a key source for the paper, the investigation bore stunning fruit.

Phone records showed communication, dating back more than a year, that connected those in the house with the alleged plot leader, Mohammed Atta and his accomplices, including eleven of the other hijackers. Other records, kept by guards at the gated community, documented numerous visits to the house by a vehicle known to have been used by Atta, and indicated the physical presence in the car of Atta’s purported accomplice Ziad Jarrah. It appeared as if the Ghazzawi house was some kind of nerve center for the entire operation.

According to the senior counterterrorism officer, both Esam Ghazzawi and his son-in-law al-Hiijjii had been on a watch list at the FBI predating 9/11. An unnamed U.S. agency tracking terror funds had also taken an interest in them. “464 was Ghazzawi’s number,” the officer said. “I don’t remember the other man’s number.”


These stunning revelations—said to be based on the work of the swarm of FBI agents who descended on the gated community in the fall of 2001—would surely have generated headlines worldwide if they had become known after 9/11. But the FBI, for reasons unknown, failed to provide the information to Congressional 9/11 investigators or to the presidential 9/11 commission, and thus it has remained a secret for the past decade.

In response to the Herald article, the FBI has issued a statement saying that the occupants of the house had been tracked down and interrogated, and were found to have no connections to the hijackers. It is not clear when these interrogations are supposed to have taken place, or whether they were conducted by the FBI or by Saudi intelligence. But given the FBI’s poor track record for candor in the matter, the statement is being viewed with some skepticism.

Adding to these doubts is an ineffective effort by the Bureau to woo the house owners back to Florida. According to Scott McKay, a lawyer for homeowners’ association of the gated community, known as Prestancia, the FBI attempted to convince the Ghazzawis they needed to come back in person to sign documents related to unpaid back dues to the association. This attempt proved unsuccessful when the Ghazzawis simply arranged to sign the documents elsewhere. These facts, reported by The Herald, raise questions about the U.S. government’s determination to interview the couple: Esam Ghazzawi’s signature was notarized in Lebanon—by a U.S. official no less—the vice consul at the US embassy in Beirut. His wife’s signature was also notarized—elsewhere in the United States, in Riverside County, California.

The emergence of this information chagrined Bob Graham, the former Florida U.S. Senator. Graham was Senate Intelligence Committee chair (and a 2004 candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination) and served as co-chair of the congressional joint inquiry into 9/11. “At the beginning of the investigation,” he told The Herald, “each of the intelligence agencies, including the FBI, was asked to provide all information that agency possessed in relation to 9/11.” Graham noted that the Bureau also failed to turn over information connecting the hijackers to other Saudis living in California, which his own investigators later discovered on their own.

Just as strange, when Graham’s congressional investigators turned over a large body of information on the hijackers they had assembled to the presidential 9/11 Commission, it seemed uninterested. “They did very little with it,” Graham said, “and their reference to Saudi Arabia is almost cryptic sometimes. … I never got a good answer as to why they did not pursue that.”

About the new discovery in Sarasota, Graham said it “opens the door to a new chapter of investigation as to the depth of the Saudi role in 9/11.”

All Eyes on Prince Sultan

Of special interest is the Ghazzawis’ boss, the chairman of EIRAD Holding Co. Ltd., Prince Sultan bin Salman bin Abdul Aziz Al-Saud. He is a prominent and powerful member of the ruling Saudi royal family who is expected to become crown prince, and thereby in line to become king. Born in 1956, which makes him approximately the same age as the Ghazzawi brothers, Prince Sultan bin Salman is a grandson of King Abdul Aziz (commonly referred to as Ibn Saud), founder of modern Saudi Arabia.



Bob Graham is still enraged over what our government has done, and is determined to bring it out into the open so that people can know.

So are we all.





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Playing stupid to cover their role in it and to expand their powers Hydra Sep 2015 #1
So now they can do what Frank Church and Hannah Arendt warned us about. Octafish Sep 2015 #3
That's the main reason I'm here Hydra Sep 2015 #4
Funny that you should mention her nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #8
I encourage you to do so Hydra Sep 2015 #10
But, you know, CIA was designed to be the "fall guy" for Presidential covert activities. Plausible leveymg Sep 2015 #24
President Truman didn't expect the cloak and dagger stuff when he signed it into law. Octafish Sep 2015 #27
Maybe in the day when the CIA answered to the President. Today, I believe it's the other way rhett o rick Sep 2015 #33
Well they were just slapped back nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #6
"They had no technical means of tracing the call" !!!!!!!! leveymg Sep 2015 #2
Looks like a Fortress of Turpitude Octafish Sep 2015 #9
There were at least 2 Saudi double-agents together in San Diego: al-Midhar and Alwaki leveymg Sep 2015 #22
DU has no clue how lucky we are. Octafish Sep 2015 #69
Back at you. Thank you, this would otherwise be a dark blind alley of smoke and mirrors. leveymg Sep 2015 #70
Here's the inside story from the FBI liaison at CIA CTC. This has some new info, below leveymg Sep 2015 #23
The truth might have come out earlier nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #16
Have you seen this movie Michigan-Arizona Sep 2015 #21
Remember Mark Lombardi... Octafish Sep 2015 #38
Thank you for all that info.! Michigan-Arizona Sep 2015 #54
Yup nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #51
I thought it was a good video Michigan-Arizona Sep 2015 #56
A couple choice quotes nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #58
Can you sum up what he thinks is to be discovered at that airfield? riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #52
From his blog nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #53
Blackwater!! riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #57
Pinal Airpark on Google Earth nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #59
As an amateur pilot that pic scares the crap out of me!!! riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #60
I'm not sure Michigan-Arizona Sep 2015 #55
Heartbreaking. Remember Jim Hatfield... Octafish Sep 2015 #37
Bush was very good friends with the Saudis Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #39
PNAC. The Bush family needed a Reichstag fire type event to jumpstart war in the ME riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #41
I hope this isn't right Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #43
Buy Partisan defenders in office and out. Octafish Sep 2015 #47
Reminds me of the English kings plundering other countries and bringing back treasures Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #49
Senator Bob Graham was on the trail of these guys, but the FBI refused to issue subpoenas. seafan Sep 2015 #18
Thnx! leveymg Sep 2015 #25
from this important article questionseverything Sep 2015 #5
J Kirk Wiebe - American Hero Octafish Sep 2015 #34
LIHOP at least... riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #7
I think there's a word for that... Hydra Sep 2015 #11
At the very least, 3000 counts of Negligent Homicide. A multi-count indictment. leveymg Sep 2015 #26
Bushco is apparently too big to jail Hydra Sep 2015 #28
NSA docs contradict Bush Administration 9-11 claims Octafish Sep 2015 #36
"We were too incompetent to do what we could have easily done" jfern Sep 2015 #12
Why do they need to spy on us? That's NAZI. Octafish Sep 2015 #44
The fact that the same close nit group of officials and intelligence agencies 1)"failed" to prevent GoneFishin Sep 2015 #13
Dots All Connected, GoneFishin. Here's how NYT op-ed put it in 2012... Octafish Sep 2015 #63
9/11 could have been stopped. Period. NYCButterfinger Sep 2015 #14
It may be all the bad beer and propaganda have addled American brains. Octafish Sep 2015 #64
Kick... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #15
A Familiar Refrain: Justice Denied Due to Technical Difficulties. Octafish Sep 2015 #67
Here's the pity of it... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #71
Absolutely essential books (Cass Sunstein's just sayin') Octafish Sep 2015 #72
Jeeeeezuss... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #73
A dirty deed done dirty and with that knowledge, a heavy burden. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #17
Bob Graham: FBI hindered Congress’s 9/11 inquiry, withheld reports about Sarasota Saudis Octafish Sep 2015 #68
It seems like all the alphabet agencies have an agenda to pursue a coverup. seafan Sep 2015 #19
Thanks for the post, seafan, it's very eye-opening. I have never seen this before and I am still Ghost in the Machine Sep 2015 #20
Thank you, Ghost. seafan Sep 2015 #40
Bob Graham should be careful Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #42
Sultan bin Salman Al Saud JDPriestly Apr 2016 #75
KnR! Holly_Hobby Sep 2015 #29
L I H O P Raster Sep 2015 #30
It's a sad state of affairs... CanSocDem Sep 2015 #31
K&R Go Vols Sep 2015 #32
LIHOP K&R n/t bobthedrummer Sep 2015 #35
I didn't see a mention of General Ahmed in the thread Oilwellian Sep 2015 #45
The Guardian article doesn't mention Porter Goss nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #50
Thank you for this post, Octafish. The links Karmadillo Sep 2015 #46
If a 4 star general can look Congress in the eyes and lie his ass off and not be punished. Rex Sep 2015 #48
A money-making 4 star general lying his ass off. Octafish Sep 2015 #65
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #61
HUGE K&R CrawlingChaos Sep 2015 #62
LIHOP MoonRiver Sep 2015 #66
The only way the NSA could have prevented 9/11... jmowreader Sep 2015 #74
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