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Octafish

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69. DU has no clue how lucky we are.
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:31 PM
Sep 2015

Same for the USA: leveymg spells out what the nation's press corpse is afraid to touch, the truth about Bush and 9-11:



Director Mueller: 9/11 Hijackers were, in Fact, Under NSA Surveillance

by leveymg
Daily Kos, FRI JUN 14, 2013

NSA Surveillance of 9/11 Plot Was Known to FBI

Outgoing FBI Director Robert Mueller made a startling claim yesterday to a Congressional Committee overseeing the NSA inquiry. The Director described how Khalid al-Midhar, one of the 9-11 hijackers, had called a Yemeni safe house from a phone in San Diego shortly before the attack. Mueller claims had today's surveillance system been in place, NSA surveillance of that call would have led to sharing of intelligence with the FBI and "derailed" the 9/11 attack. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/13/fbi-mueller-spy-tactics-9-11-boston

That isn't the complete truth, however. Court records from the trial of convicted co-conspiractor Zakaria Moussaoui shows the FBI was aware of NSA intercepts of Midhar and and his partner Nawaf al-Hazmi in the months leading up to 9/11, who went on to hijack Flt. 77 that slammed into the Pentagon. The pair had also met with the other principal 9/11 hijackers at various locations inside the US. Based in part on NSA wiretaps that were later withheld and suppressed, FBI agents had, in fact, located the pair inside the US in mid-2001, but the investigating agents were ordered to close the file after CIA refused to cooperate and pressured the Bureau to shut down several lines of field investigation that were focusing on the plotters.

Mueller's claims omit those key facts. The Director instead stated that Khalid al-Mihdhar was being monitored by intelligence agencies, but “they lost track of him,” Mueller said. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/0613/Secret-NSA-program-could-have-derailed-9-11-attacks-FBI-director-says-video

FBI Director Mueller doesn't explain why. He instead told Congress that intelligence officials did not know that it was Midhar who called a Yemen safehouse to discuss progress of the plot. The NSA monitoring program could have changed that, Mueller argued, potentially leading to the "derailing" of the plot. In fact, the FBI field investigators had already tried to get CIA to reveal the NSA surveillance records they knew already existed, but that line of investigation was shut down by headquarters. Mueller's statement is completely misleading in view of the actual events and decisions taken by ranking intelligence officials to sidetrack ongoing FBI investigations into the al-Qaeda operation during 2001:

“If we had the telephone number from Yemen, we would have matched it up to that telephone number in San Diego, got further legal process, identified al-Mihdhar,” he said. “The 9/11 Commission itself indicated that investigations or interrogations of al-Mihdhar once he was identified could have yielded evidence of connections to other participants in the 9/11 plot.”

CONTINUED w/links...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/14/1216187/-Director-Mueller-9-11-Hijackers-were-in-Fact-Under-NSA-Surveillance



Thank you for all you do to keep us informed, leveymg. You do what the nation's media fail to do: Map out the Territory and Connect the Dots.

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Playing stupid to cover their role in it and to expand their powers Hydra Sep 2015 #1
So now they can do what Frank Church and Hannah Arendt warned us about. Octafish Sep 2015 #3
That's the main reason I'm here Hydra Sep 2015 #4
Funny that you should mention her nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #8
I encourage you to do so Hydra Sep 2015 #10
But, you know, CIA was designed to be the "fall guy" for Presidential covert activities. Plausible leveymg Sep 2015 #24
President Truman didn't expect the cloak and dagger stuff when he signed it into law. Octafish Sep 2015 #27
Maybe in the day when the CIA answered to the President. Today, I believe it's the other way rhett o rick Sep 2015 #33
Well they were just slapped back nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #6
"They had no technical means of tracing the call" !!!!!!!! leveymg Sep 2015 #2
Looks like a Fortress of Turpitude Octafish Sep 2015 #9
There were at least 2 Saudi double-agents together in San Diego: al-Midhar and Alwaki leveymg Sep 2015 #22
DU has no clue how lucky we are. Octafish Sep 2015 #69
Back at you. Thank you, this would otherwise be a dark blind alley of smoke and mirrors. leveymg Sep 2015 #70
Here's the inside story from the FBI liaison at CIA CTC. This has some new info, below leveymg Sep 2015 #23
The truth might have come out earlier nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #16
Have you seen this movie Michigan-Arizona Sep 2015 #21
Remember Mark Lombardi... Octafish Sep 2015 #38
Thank you for all that info.! Michigan-Arizona Sep 2015 #54
Yup nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #51
I thought it was a good video Michigan-Arizona Sep 2015 #56
A couple choice quotes nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #58
Can you sum up what he thinks is to be discovered at that airfield? riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #52
From his blog nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #53
Blackwater!! riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #57
Pinal Airpark on Google Earth nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #59
As an amateur pilot that pic scares the crap out of me!!! riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #60
I'm not sure Michigan-Arizona Sep 2015 #55
Heartbreaking. Remember Jim Hatfield... Octafish Sep 2015 #37
Bush was very good friends with the Saudis Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #39
PNAC. The Bush family needed a Reichstag fire type event to jumpstart war in the ME riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #41
I hope this isn't right Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #43
Buy Partisan defenders in office and out. Octafish Sep 2015 #47
Reminds me of the English kings plundering other countries and bringing back treasures Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #49
Senator Bob Graham was on the trail of these guys, but the FBI refused to issue subpoenas. seafan Sep 2015 #18
Thnx! leveymg Sep 2015 #25
from this important article questionseverything Sep 2015 #5
J Kirk Wiebe - American Hero Octafish Sep 2015 #34
LIHOP at least... riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #7
I think there's a word for that... Hydra Sep 2015 #11
At the very least, 3000 counts of Negligent Homicide. A multi-count indictment. leveymg Sep 2015 #26
Bushco is apparently too big to jail Hydra Sep 2015 #28
NSA docs contradict Bush Administration 9-11 claims Octafish Sep 2015 #36
"We were too incompetent to do what we could have easily done" jfern Sep 2015 #12
Why do they need to spy on us? That's NAZI. Octafish Sep 2015 #44
The fact that the same close nit group of officials and intelligence agencies 1)"failed" to prevent GoneFishin Sep 2015 #13
Dots All Connected, GoneFishin. Here's how NYT op-ed put it in 2012... Octafish Sep 2015 #63
9/11 could have been stopped. Period. NYCButterfinger Sep 2015 #14
It may be all the bad beer and propaganda have addled American brains. Octafish Sep 2015 #64
Kick... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #15
A Familiar Refrain: Justice Denied Due to Technical Difficulties. Octafish Sep 2015 #67
Here's the pity of it... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #71
Absolutely essential books (Cass Sunstein's just sayin') Octafish Sep 2015 #72
Jeeeeezuss... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #73
A dirty deed done dirty and with that knowledge, a heavy burden. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #17
Bob Graham: FBI hindered Congress’s 9/11 inquiry, withheld reports about Sarasota Saudis Octafish Sep 2015 #68
It seems like all the alphabet agencies have an agenda to pursue a coverup. seafan Sep 2015 #19
Thanks for the post, seafan, it's very eye-opening. I have never seen this before and I am still Ghost in the Machine Sep 2015 #20
Thank you, Ghost. seafan Sep 2015 #40
Bob Graham should be careful Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #42
Sultan bin Salman Al Saud JDPriestly Apr 2016 #75
KnR! Holly_Hobby Sep 2015 #29
L I H O P Raster Sep 2015 #30
It's a sad state of affairs... CanSocDem Sep 2015 #31
K&R Go Vols Sep 2015 #32
LIHOP K&R n/t bobthedrummer Sep 2015 #35
I didn't see a mention of General Ahmed in the thread Oilwellian Sep 2015 #45
The Guardian article doesn't mention Porter Goss nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #50
Thank you for this post, Octafish. The links Karmadillo Sep 2015 #46
If a 4 star general can look Congress in the eyes and lie his ass off and not be punished. Rex Sep 2015 #48
A money-making 4 star general lying his ass off. Octafish Sep 2015 #65
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #61
HUGE K&R CrawlingChaos Sep 2015 #62
LIHOP MoonRiver Sep 2015 #66
The only way the NSA could have prevented 9/11... jmowreader Sep 2015 #74
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