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Egnever

(21,506 posts)
27. I don't see how these results are that surprising
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:42 PM
Sep 2015

Considering this

The threshold on the initial test was lowered slightly for disadvantaged “Plan B” students, who were either eligible for free or discounted lunches based on their family’s income, or were English leaners.


or this

all second-grade students took an ability test, and those who scored above a given threshold took an IQ test in order to qualify for a gifted-and-talented program.


Sounds like the bar was lowered for "disadvantaged" students at the same time as the testing became mandatory. I am not sure that lowering the requirements for some students is actually fixing anything. It seems more like an attempt to increase diversity for the sake of increasing diversity than an actual attempt to identify gifted students. The mandatory testing however instead of recommendations would remove bias and seems totally appropriate.

I also don't find the fact that the newly identified students benefited more surprising, considering the others were already taking those courses why would they show any significant improvement. The smaller class size alone would likely cause significant improvement for any student taken out of the larger classes, gifted or not.

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I'm sorry is that garbage a real quote? whatthehey Sep 2015 #1
I can only post 4 paragraphs due to copyright restrictions gollygee Sep 2015 #3
The word "would" did not display because it is in brackets. . . Journeyman Sep 2015 #5
Here are a couple of quoted paragraphs JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2015 #6
What our schools need is more testing, obviously. Orrex Sep 2015 #2
It was more the "be" that indicated terrible grammar. whatthehey Sep 2015 #16
Any kid would benefit from being in the gifted program underpants Sep 2015 #4
That's much of it. Igel Sep 2015 #11
It depends somewhat on the nature of the gifted program. SheilaT Sep 2015 #28
The gifted program in my school was a joke Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2015 #7
The gifted grade school I went to was amazing. B2G Sep 2015 #9
let our "secretary of education" privatize all the schools for allegedly gifted kids and the rest msongs Sep 2015 #8
Conflicted ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #10
What state? Igel Sep 2015 #12
Sorry, Missed This ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #14
That's another effect of standardized testing. Xithras Sep 2015 #13
So let's talk about the "system." LWolf Sep 2015 #15
At our schools they do use a standardized test gollygee Sep 2015 #17
That's actually an issue everywhere. LWolf Sep 2015 #18
You should make this issue an OP. The fact that GT are at high risk is not known by the public. greatlaurel Sep 2015 #19
I'll try to remember this weekend, LWolf Sep 2015 #23
Yes this is the problem gollygee Sep 2015 #21
Parent ed is crucial. LWolf Sep 2015 #24
Your efforts are making a difference for so many lives. Thank you for what you do. greatlaurel Sep 2015 #29
Thank you. Solly Mack Sep 2015 #22
You're welcome, of course. LWolf Sep 2015 #25
Gifted and talented children are found in equal numbers across all classes and ethnicities. greatlaurel Sep 2015 #20
In the 80s, it was LITERALLY an excuse to segregate Nevernose Sep 2015 #26
I don't see how these results are that surprising Egnever Sep 2015 #27
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