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In reply to the discussion: Did an Archbishop from Kentucky troll the Pope? [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)30. Charles Pierce nailed it: The Vatican confirms Pope Francis was “ratf*cked” into meeting Kim Davis
Esquire's Charles Pierce speculated that Pope Francis had been railroaded by Evangelicals. Turns out he was right
SCOTT ERIC KAUFMAN
Salon, Oct. 2, 2015
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Pierce wrote that we must stipulate that there are more than a few members of the Churchs permanent bureaucracy, both within the Clan Of The Red Beanie and without, who are not happy that this gentleman got elected Pope, and who are not happy with what hes done and said since he was. If you are one of those people and youre looking to ratfuck the popes visit to the United States, and to his agenda in general, youd be looking to put him in a box.
So, how would you do that? Pierce asked, before answering, Id arrange for the pope to meet Davis, but not as an American culture war celebrity, but as a devout Christian whose faith is under vague assault. Then, with the pope safely back in Rome, Id leak the news to a conservative Catholic website and wait for the inevitable explosion.
Which, according to the Vaticans latest statement, is exactly what happened. The pope did not enter into the details of the situation of Mrs. Davis, and his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects, Rev. Lombardi said.
Pope Francis met with several dozen persons who had been invited by the Nunciature to greet him as he prepared to leave Washington for New York City, he continued. Such brief greetings occur on all papal visits and are due to the Popes characteristic kindness and availability.
The Pope did not enter into the details of the situation of Mrs. Davis and his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects.
SOURCE: http://www.salon.com/2015/10/02/the_vatican_confirms_that_pope_francis_was_ratfcked_into_meeting_kim_davis/
SCOTT ERIC KAUFMAN
Salon, Oct. 2, 2015
EXCERPT...
Pierce wrote that we must stipulate that there are more than a few members of the Churchs permanent bureaucracy, both within the Clan Of The Red Beanie and without, who are not happy that this gentleman got elected Pope, and who are not happy with what hes done and said since he was. If you are one of those people and youre looking to ratfuck the popes visit to the United States, and to his agenda in general, youd be looking to put him in a box.
So, how would you do that? Pierce asked, before answering, Id arrange for the pope to meet Davis, but not as an American culture war celebrity, but as a devout Christian whose faith is under vague assault. Then, with the pope safely back in Rome, Id leak the news to a conservative Catholic website and wait for the inevitable explosion.
Which, according to the Vaticans latest statement, is exactly what happened. The pope did not enter into the details of the situation of Mrs. Davis, and his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects, Rev. Lombardi said.
Pope Francis met with several dozen persons who had been invited by the Nunciature to greet him as he prepared to leave Washington for New York City, he continued. Such brief greetings occur on all papal visits and are due to the Popes characteristic kindness and availability.
The Pope did not enter into the details of the situation of Mrs. Davis and his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects.
SOURCE: http://www.salon.com/2015/10/02/the_vatican_confirms_that_pope_francis_was_ratfcked_into_meeting_kim_davis/
Great links like to mine, as you know, for democracy, trotsky.
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So? In his official speeches, he spoke out on the importance of universal insurance.
pnwmom
Sep 2015
#10
The difference in focus makes a huge difference to Catholics in the pews, if not to you.
pnwmom
Oct 2015
#24
I don't define right-wing the same way you do. If you take some issues seriously
pnwmom
Oct 2015
#26
Going from conscientious objection into actively practicing that objection is a thin line.
icymist
Sep 2015
#9
Yeah. He came all the way to the USA to talk to Fox News' favorite former Democrat.
Octafish
Oct 2015
#14
Charles Pierce nailed it: The Vatican confirms Pope Francis was “ratf*cked” into meeting Kim Davis
Octafish
Oct 2015
#30
Great questions, yours. I am a Roman Catholic with fundamentalist Buddhist and Sufi elements.
Octafish
Oct 2015
#21
When we approach our individual problems with empathy, we move the world in that direction.
Octafish
Oct 2015
#29
Learn to love yourself first, then love for the world is automatic. Love is the answer, O!
Dont call me Shirley
Oct 2015
#32