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Brickbat

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97. I'm wondering if the hypotheticals I'm imagining are the same as the ones others imagine.

Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:04 AM

Oct 2015

If I'm on Facebook and a friend of mine shares something from Page A, and when I click on the original graphic and there are a thousand comments and some of them are shitty, as happens on the internet, and one of them is straight-up racist, it's my business to call it out. It's not my business to click through on the person's name in an effort to identify who they are so I can call their employer and tell the employer that their employee is being a racist dick on the Internet.

If I'm at a football game and some drunk racist ass is sitting three rows behind me and yells a racial slur at the opposing quarterback, it's my business to say, "Sit down and shut your racist ass up," but it is not my business to ask the fan where s/he works so I can tell his/her employer.

If I'm getting coffee and I hear two baristas conversing and one of them says something racist, then absolutely I tell the manager. As a customer, I just saw two employees represent their employer in a racist way.

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Racism: A recent story brings up a good question: [View all] MineralMan Oct 2015 OP

No, I don't think it's a good thing. Shandris Oct 2015 #1

So, if you encounter blatant racism, you do nothing? MineralMan Oct 2015 #2

Yes, it 'works'. So does a lobotomy. Shandris Oct 2015 #3

Racism puts many people's livelihoods and families at risk. MineralMan Oct 2015 #4

Okay. Shandris Oct 2015 #8

There is a difference between disagreement and racism. MineralMan Oct 2015 #9

I wonder if white people and Black people would answer this question differently randys1 Oct 2015 #54

As a mother who raised a black child I voted no. Boudica the Lyoness Oct 2015 #59

Apparently, yes. MineralMan Oct 2015 #60

I think so. qwlauren35 Oct 2015 #67

I'm really torn about this... OneGrassRoot Oct 2015 #7

Thank you for linking to that article. MissB Oct 2015 #24

You witnessed blatant racism not so long ago and did nothing. Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #45

Exactly, like if you experience it first hand R.A. Ganoush Oct 2015 #101

Not even close to the same thing. MineralMan Oct 2015 #102

Hey, I just call them like I see them R.A. Ganoush Oct 2015 #103

OK. But the situations weren't the same at all. MineralMan Oct 2015 #104

how is abhorring racism in any way "buying into propaganda"? do you really think that is a value bettyellen Oct 2015 #25

No, not that particular value judgement. I'd wager it's self-evident enough to... Shandris Oct 2015 #27

I hate to break it to you- but "the mob" has been at it forever- and their victims were largely POC bettyellen Oct 2015 #31

I couldn't care less if it happened to men, women, or ferrets. Shandris Oct 2015 #37

YOU SAID this was a new phenomenon "unleashed", so was just explaining how wrong you are. bettyellen Oct 2015 #43

Sure thing, that's nice, mhm, have fun, yes run along now. Shandris Oct 2015 #44

I don't need to look a few years back to know you're mistaken now. But thanks! bettyellen Oct 2015 #93

just so you know this person used support for the anti gay bigot Ben Carson JI7 Oct 2015 #91

LOL, the excuse people make around here for looking the other way- sad. bettyellen Oct 2015 #92

For those answering 'yes', a question B2G Oct 2015 #5

I don't post racist comments on Facebook, MineralMan Oct 2015 #6

"It's okay because it doesn't have to apply to me." Shandris Oct 2015 #10

You know, being an open racist isn't the same as simply MineralMan Oct 2015 #11

You explain that to the people who are hurt when someone loses... Shandris Oct 2015 #13

We didn't ruin their life. They were stupid and very cruel in a very public way. It's on them. bettyellen Oct 2015 #32

Right, it's about personal responsibility. A company has the right to employ whom they choose.If underahedgerow Oct 2015 #95

Eactly. nt B2G Oct 2015 #12

If I worked for a RW employer qwlauren35 Oct 2015 #70

I say yes. countingbluecars Oct 2015 #14

"Other": I might report it if it were MY employer too and I felt it impacted the company. Hortensis Oct 2015 #15

Now see, I'm with this. Shandris Oct 2015 #17

I'm with you too. No "online mob thing" ever, or offline. Hortensis Oct 2015 #46

No Egnever Oct 2015 #16

In most cases, I would say no. Brickbat Oct 2015 #18

I think it depends, and it's a thorny issue. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #19

The internet lynch mob mentality worries me. Throd Oct 2015 #20

"will fire up the mob" and "burn the witch" ? Funny! Because there already IS a war on women bettyellen Oct 2015 #26

No. I'm not a fan of employers punishing people for... rollin74 Oct 2015 #21

Having read the situation in question, that dude DEFINITELY deserved to be fired. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #22

Agreed. He was ridiculing a coworker's child. Invited racist spew to be directed at this child. salin Oct 2015 #28

it depends on what kind of job or power the person has, geek tragedy Oct 2015 #23

Oh my ... DU does it again! ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #29

Probably never rbrnmw Oct 2015 #39

Calling out racism I witness? My business. Brickbat Oct 2015 #57

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #61

It should be your business. This is why racists persist. kwassa Oct 2015 #82

oh look down thread- someone seems to think this thread is about income equality...... bettyellen Oct 2015 #89

I'm wondering if the hypotheticals I'm imagining are the same as the ones others imagine. Brickbat Oct 2015 #97

It's interesting, which is why I posted the poll. MineralMan Oct 2015 #64

Unfortunately, I am finding it less puzzling and more disappointing of those ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #78

Yeah, it shocked me too. qwlauren35 Oct 2015 #73

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #79

The nets can be hackable setups for hurting people. ancianita Oct 2015 #30

"which is just talk,really" . you want to protect those who racially insult coworkers? and minimize bettyellen Oct 2015 #33

He stepped over a whole bunch of lines, starting with posting a picture of someone else's kid w/o Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #34

and his waitress friend- referring to the kid as "a slave", does not deserve to work with the public bettyellen Oct 2015 #38

Certainly if you take a big poop in public Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #47

No, I think that if someone reveals a hateful ideology, you can fairly assume it taints their bettyellen Oct 2015 #49

I meant taking a poop in public rhetorically, not literally. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #72

Yep. But I don't know a thing about "the story." I'm talking generalities here. In good faith. ancianita Oct 2015 #63

The OP wrote about racism on Facebook. The talk standard doesn't apply in the workplace, obviously. ancianita Oct 2015 #35

so, you'd keep an employee who was marching with the KKK because that was on his time off? bettyellen Oct 2015 #41

Here are the boundaries for firing. ancianita Oct 2015 #48

So prejudice speech "floating around" in the workplace is no big deal- for you. Love the bettyellen Oct 2015 #51

The OP doesn't get to be vague on details and then everyone argue what he means. I'm answering ancianita Oct 2015 #56

I'm happy to judge the character of people who spew bigotry @ work, and get, you're more forgiving.... bettyellen Oct 2015 #58

Have at it. I ain't got time for cheap attacks on some wording in my effort-posts. ancianita Oct 2015 #62

I was obviously responding to your thoughts. I have been in the actual position of having an bettyellen Oct 2015 #65

I told you. I don't know "the story." I don't make light of workplace hostility. Ever. If you think ancianita Oct 2015 #69

Ah, using MLK to try and persuade people to back burner their racial concerns, thank you.... bettyellen Oct 2015 #71

There really ARE a lot of ways to solve problems of racism, and they don't all involve niggling ancianita Oct 2015 #74

" adults trying to reach the goal of structural fairness"- what a patronizing bit of tripe. bettyellen Oct 2015 #87

k & r ancianita Oct 2015 #52

Question ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #50

granted? melman Oct 2015 #81

Yes GRANTED ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #83

Look above for an interesting rationalization for looking the other way..... bettyellen Oct 2015 #90

Yes ... I Know. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #96

no thread is too off topic to be about the 99% vs the oligarchy, WOW. bettyellen Oct 2015 #99

I saw that earlier & understand this: If I ever ran into any of those people....... WillowTree Oct 2015 #36

If we suspect they're republicans yes....tattle away. ileus Oct 2015 #40

His employer found out one way or another and dealt with it. WillowTree Oct 2015 #42

Should you have gotten fired for the horrible things you said when you were on FR? Heddi Oct 2015 #53

Good point... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #68

X-posted in A&A. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #55

For me qwlauren35 Oct 2015 #66

Early in my career I was fired twice when it was found out I'm an atheist Fumesucker Oct 2015 #75

I've railways been open, but not blatant, MineralMan Oct 2015 #77

In a perfect world JackInGreen Oct 2015 #76

A grain silo has less rats than this place. nt edgineered Oct 2015 #80

My employer warns all of us every year .... kwassa Oct 2015 #84

I'm going to say no, but only because it would wind up backfiring BarstowCowboy Oct 2015 #85

That's always the risk, isn't it? Dr. Strange Oct 2015 #86

Exactly that BarstowCowboy Oct 2015 #88

Excellent High Sparrow! n/t ellisonz Oct 2015 #94

Note: Nobody seems to have noticed the conditional nature MineralMan Oct 2015 #98

If that was my kid damn right I'd want someone to tell me/my boss Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #100

How about criminal charges? Dr. Strange Oct 2015 #105

Pass. Yes if the person was part of the criminal justice nc4bo Oct 2015 #106