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Octafish

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28. It IS horrifying. One mistake with nuclear weapons can lead to the end of human life on Earth.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 03:41 PM
Oct 2015


That doesn't bother some people.



Reagan Officials on Winnable Nuclear War

" . . . it is possible for any society to survive [a nuclear war] . . . nuclear war is a destructive thing but still in large part a physics problem." ----- Charles Kupperman Arms Control and Disarmament Agency (ACDA)

Senator Pell: "My question is, in a full nuclear exchange, would a country survive?"
Eugene Rostov (ACDA): "The human race is very resilient, Senator Pell."

"You have a survivability of command and control, survivability of industrial potential, protection of a percentage of your citizens, and you have a capability that inflicts more damage on the opposition than it can inflict on you." ----- Vice-President George Bush on how to win a nuclear war

"Everybody's going to make it if there are enough shovels to go around. Dig a hole, cover it with a couple of doors and then throw three feet of dirt on top. It's the dirt that does it." ----- T. K. Jones, Deputy Undersecretary of Defense

"The United States must possess the ability to wage nuclear war rationally." ----- Colin Gray, Arms Control Adviser

"It would be a terrible mess, but it wouldn't be unmanageable." ----- Louis Giuffrida, Federal Emergency Management Agency

Question: Would democracy and other institutions survive nucear war?
"I think they would eventually, yeah. As I say, the ants eventually build another anthill." ----- William Chipman Federal Emergency Management Agency

SOURCE: http://legalienate.blogspot.com/2011/02/reagan-officials-on-winnable-nuclear.html



Which, knowing what they know, even if ant-like, is criminal.

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Crazy as minks in heat. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #1
Unspeakably Crazy Octafish Oct 2015 #3
Yep. And we still have them today too. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #4
Absolutely. Some of them even talk war while wearing civilian duds. Octafish Oct 2015 #9
Thank you for this background info. We all know that there is $$$ to be made erronis Oct 2015 #18
War is a profit center for Wall Street Octafish Oct 2015 #33
Horrible... gilpo Oct 2015 #21
Thank you for the important history! Octafish Oct 2015 #31
I only wish i got to know him better gilpo Oct 2015 #32
Looking at that photo again, you have to know that JFK was controlled by the brass erronis Oct 2015 #34
Kennedy stood up to them and made clear who was boss. Octafish Oct 2015 #39
Hopefully they'll name the person who issued the order. pa28 Oct 2015 #2
Me, too. I'd like to know who went around the President's back or whether it was an 'accident.' Octafish Oct 2015 #5
The personal facts of the major ow wanted them to launch jwirr Oct 2015 #8
That is a great idea, jwirr. Octafish Oct 2015 #12
Unfortunately at 74 years and limited knowledge of a computer jwirr Oct 2015 #14
From the Bulletin comments: an Airman who served there linked to this site re Okinawa MACE base... Octafish Oct 2015 #15
And we knew it was dangerous because that clock kept jwirr Oct 2015 #19
interesting comments on this article. mopinko Oct 2015 #6
Very interesting comments. Octafish Oct 2015 #10
wow! G_j Oct 2015 #7
DCI Dulles and JCS chair Lemnitzer counseled JFK launch all-out attack on USSR in 1961. Octafish Oct 2015 #11
infinitely scarier than any Halloween story.. nt G_j Oct 2015 #13
I have read Ike's MIC statement many times and each time jwirr Oct 2015 #16
"At the end of the war if there are two Americans and one Russian left alive, we win" MisterP Oct 2015 #25
Wasn't there another incident involving a Soviet submarine commander, during the same crisis? LongTomH Oct 2015 #17
''Vasili Arkhipov saved the world.'' Octafish Oct 2015 #20
Thanks Octafish. It's terrifying to think how close we've come to nuclear destruction!!! LongTomH Oct 2015 #26
Holy Mother of Fuck! Xipe Totec Oct 2015 #22
It IS horrifying. One mistake with nuclear weapons can lead to the end of human life on Earth. Octafish Oct 2015 #28
I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed,... Xipe Totec Oct 2015 #29
50 million killed, tops. Depending on the breeze. Octafish Oct 2015 #37
This concept of a 'survivable nuclear war' has been part of Pentagon and Republican doctrine..... LongTomH Oct 2015 #30
"That doesn't bother some people" A HERETIC I AM Oct 2015 #44
And in the Atlantic, a Soviet political officer prevented a sub commander from firing jpak Oct 2015 #23
Gen. Curtis LeMay ordered intrusion missions trying to instigate Soviet response... Octafish Oct 2015 #35
"THE MISSILES OF OCTOBER" (1974) Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #24
Thank you, Omaha Steve! Great historic dramatization. Octafish Oct 2015 #40
I do love "13 Days" too Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #43
Either we abolish war, or it will most assuredly . . FairWinds Oct 2015 #27
Peace and Prosperity for ALL sounds so...so...foreign to ears in 2015. Octafish Oct 2015 #41
Simply nightmarish. Generic Other Oct 2015 #36
Every medal, each with a few oak leaf clusters. Octafish Nov 2015 #47
Close calls on the Russian end as well eridani Oct 2015 #38
Oh well. Secret Government plans to survive. The rest of us, not so much. Octafish Oct 2015 #45
Singer James Blunt claims he Stopped America From Starting World War III in 1999 MowCowWhoHow III Oct 2015 #42
That is an amazing history. Octafish Oct 2015 #46
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