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In reply to the discussion: Heroic USAF Captain Defied Orders and Stopped America From Starting World War III in 1962... [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)39. Kennedy stood up to them and made clear who was boss.
PC96 PT boat officers Reed, Kennedy, Ross, and Fay in South Pacific, 1943...

JFK, FDR and 'Seven Days in May'
By Lisa Pease
ConsortiumNews, February 24, 2009
EXCERPT...
The film "Seven Days in May" began as a novel by Fletcher Knebel, inspired to a great degree by Knebel's conversations with Gen. Curtis LeMay, President Kennedy's contentious Air Force Chief of Staff who was furious at Kennedy for not sending in full military support during the Bay of Pigs incident.
Additionally, LeMay infamously argued during the Cuban Missile Crisis for a preemptive nuclear first-strike against the Soviet Union, a move Kennedy abhorred.
One of Kennedy's friends, Paul Fay, Jr., wrote in his book The Pleasure of His Company how one summer weekend in 1962, one of Kennedy's friends bought Knebel's book to his attention, and Kennedy read the book that night.
The next day, Kennedy discussed the plot with friends, who wanted to know if Kennedy felt such a scenario was possible. Bear in mind this was after the Bay of Pigs but before the Cuban Missile Crisis.
"It's possible," Kennedy acknowledged. "It could happen in this country, but the conditions would have to be just right. If, for example, the country had a young President, and he had a Bay of Pigs, there would be a certain uneasiness.
Maybe the military would do a little criticizing behind his back, but this would be written off as the usual military dissatisfaction with civilian control. Then if there were another Bay of Pigs, the reaction of the country would be, 'Is he too young and inexperienced?'
The military would almost feel that it was their patriotic obligation to stand ready to preserve the integrity of the nation, and only God knows just what segment of democracy they would be defending if they overthrew the elected establishment."
After a moment, Kennedy continued. "Then, if there were a third Bay of Pigs, it could happen."
CONTINUED...
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/022409a.html

JFK, FDR and 'Seven Days in May'
By Lisa Pease
ConsortiumNews, February 24, 2009
EXCERPT...
The film "Seven Days in May" began as a novel by Fletcher Knebel, inspired to a great degree by Knebel's conversations with Gen. Curtis LeMay, President Kennedy's contentious Air Force Chief of Staff who was furious at Kennedy for not sending in full military support during the Bay of Pigs incident.
Additionally, LeMay infamously argued during the Cuban Missile Crisis for a preemptive nuclear first-strike against the Soviet Union, a move Kennedy abhorred.
One of Kennedy's friends, Paul Fay, Jr., wrote in his book The Pleasure of His Company how one summer weekend in 1962, one of Kennedy's friends bought Knebel's book to his attention, and Kennedy read the book that night.
The next day, Kennedy discussed the plot with friends, who wanted to know if Kennedy felt such a scenario was possible. Bear in mind this was after the Bay of Pigs but before the Cuban Missile Crisis.
"It's possible," Kennedy acknowledged. "It could happen in this country, but the conditions would have to be just right. If, for example, the country had a young President, and he had a Bay of Pigs, there would be a certain uneasiness.
Maybe the military would do a little criticizing behind his back, but this would be written off as the usual military dissatisfaction with civilian control. Then if there were another Bay of Pigs, the reaction of the country would be, 'Is he too young and inexperienced?'
The military would almost feel that it was their patriotic obligation to stand ready to preserve the integrity of the nation, and only God knows just what segment of democracy they would be defending if they overthrew the elected establishment."
After a moment, Kennedy continued. "Then, if there were a third Bay of Pigs, it could happen."
CONTINUED...
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/022409a.html
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Heroic USAF Captain Defied Orders and Stopped America From Starting World War III in 1962... [View all]
Octafish
Oct 2015
OP
Looking at that photo again, you have to know that JFK was controlled by the brass
erronis
Oct 2015
#34
Me, too. I'd like to know who went around the President's back or whether it was an 'accident.'
Octafish
Oct 2015
#5
From the Bulletin comments: an Airman who served there linked to this site re Okinawa MACE base...
Octafish
Oct 2015
#15
DCI Dulles and JCS chair Lemnitzer counseled JFK launch all-out attack on USSR in 1961.
Octafish
Oct 2015
#11
"At the end of the war if there are two Americans and one Russian left alive, we win"
MisterP
Oct 2015
#25
Wasn't there another incident involving a Soviet submarine commander, during the same crisis?
LongTomH
Oct 2015
#17
Thanks Octafish. It's terrifying to think how close we've come to nuclear destruction!!!
LongTomH
Oct 2015
#26
It IS horrifying. One mistake with nuclear weapons can lead to the end of human life on Earth.
Octafish
Oct 2015
#28
This concept of a 'survivable nuclear war' has been part of Pentagon and Republican doctrine.....
LongTomH
Oct 2015
#30
And in the Atlantic, a Soviet political officer prevented a sub commander from firing
jpak
Oct 2015
#23
Gen. Curtis LeMay ordered intrusion missions trying to instigate Soviet response...
Octafish
Oct 2015
#35
Singer James Blunt claims he Stopped America From Starting World War III in 1999
MowCowWhoHow III
Oct 2015
#42