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pampango

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14. It will take some of us a while to digest it and see if it is better or worse than NAFTA and the WTO

Reply to Fearless (Original post)

Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:50 AM

Nov 2015

rules that it will replace. It may well be that leaving NAFTA and the WTO alone will be the best progressive alternative. Or perhaps not.

(on edit): We are all right to be 'concerned' about any international agreement. None of them are perfect and all represent compromises between countries. They should be evaluated as to whether they are net-positive or net-negative compared to the alternative.

The right has been 'concerned' about our agreements with Iran and Cuba and is very 'concerned' about the upcoming climate talks in Paris in December. 'Concern' is not a bad thing as long as it is based on facts not on fear.

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Remember when we were told to shut up and wait to see the text of the TPP? [View all] Fearless Nov 2015 OP

Right. 840high Nov 2015 #1

Probably right, but too soon to say definitively. Jim Lane Nov 2015 #2

Thanks for this insightful post. gvstn Nov 2015 #4

the ISDS section (9) is less than 60 pages, but is critical magical thyme Nov 2015 #19

Is this who Obama has really been all along? A toady for the 1%? It sure seems like it. Kablooie Nov 2015 #3

It's a really, really bad thing. SoapBox Nov 2015 #5

China has state run corporations, US is a corporation run state. Neither govt. serves the people. whereisjustice Nov 2015 #6

Obama's ultimate betrayal. Scuba Nov 2015 #7

I'm really liking the labor annexes. The environmental section is concerning Recursion Nov 2015 #8

who told you that?! Nobody ever told me to shut up about the TPP. ellenrr Nov 2015 #9

I take it you will be eating you words davidpdx Nov 2015 #11

I don't understand why you're linking me to DU threads... ellenrr Nov 2015 #12

Right (nt) bigwillq Nov 2015 #10

The TPP has 29 chapters -- a very thick and heavy book Hortensis Nov 2015 #13

It will take some of us a while to digest it and see if it is better or worse than NAFTA and the WTO pampango Nov 2015 #14

The fact is that the final draft is basically the first draft Fearless Nov 2015 #15

You think they are going to re-negotiate the whole agreement? Several countries pampango Nov 2015 #16

We WILL defeat it. Fearless Nov 2015 #22

One is always right to be concerned but after having read the document...WTF are people kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #17

you've read and interpreted 5500 pages of legalese that was released yesterday? right. magical thyme Nov 2015 #20

Ok, so what kind of POSSIBLE trade deal do you folks want to see? What changes would you kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #18

this isn't a trade deal. it's a corporate rights deal. magical thyme Nov 2015 #21