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freshwest

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32. If you're not a bagger, it doesn't apply. Don't look for offense where none is meant, okay?
Mon May 28, 2012, 04:22 PM
May 2012

I'm not sure why you seem to regard this as an attack on science fiction fans of which I am, and not baggers which is what this is about. Part of what I read in older science fiction, is not really fiction anymore, exploration into outer space, nanobots, wireless, etc.

Everyone I know has been into science fiction most of our lives. But some of them are baggers. It's not the fault of the genre, but the media, and some is used in conspiracy theory propaganda.

What makes it difficult for them to separate the real world fact that a lot of things that were once considered safely left confined in the realm of science fiction, are now part of our world today and we think nothing of it.

For me the best science fiction took into account the technological advances that people once thought were magic, or prophetic. When I was reading Revelations as a kid, that stuff smacked of supernatural origin and now it's nothing.

That is part of the mixture of the most successful CT, that it pulls together past writings that some people blindly accepted as beyond the ability of human beings to ever create, but now it's going on before our eyes. There are physicists who argue that time and space are an illusion, and by the time we've got that into common thinking, anything is possible for some people.

Some baggers even believe Obama has been transported to Mars through a stargate and is not really a human being. Or that he's part of a race of beings that reincarnate here on Earth and have an anti-human agenda. That's using the power of science fiction CT on people brought up on that genre. I can't talk to them anymore, although I found it entertaining.

I'm sure you don't fall into that category. Frankly, I wouldn't care if it was true, because humans are now exploring realms of knowledge former generations never had the advantage of having. And It's a great time to be alive, I think.

Too bad some are using these tales to create a quasi-religion against Obama, which I find no more convincing than baggers who go the prophetic route to say he is the real anti-Christ here to destroy us all! IMHO, they crossed the line drawn between the desert religion of their childhood days and gone straight into science fiction and CT Crazyland. Obama is not the center of the universe, really, but they think so.

Please don't try to read more into a casual post on this message board than I intend. And I don't do the fallacy, etc. This is not a course in college Logic, which I passed many years ago. This world is an exciting and interesting place full of emotional experiences that are only barely touched on by logic. Many people have faith in things that don't exist or they don't understand.

Are we cool, or do you want to argue a point?

I don't have a big stake in this, but referred to real life people, who unfortunately do vote on the fiction that Obama is a Muslim or Kenyan, or has a diabolical purpose beyond understanding.

So let's have a nice day, as we intend, because I'm sure that neither of us want to have a day where our favorite news source, DU, sucks.

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Wonderfully written, cthulu2016. lamp_shade May 2012 #1
Well, thank you! cthulu2016 May 2012 #9
nice summary maggiesfarmer May 2012 #2
You brought up a point I haven't thought of. SoutherDem May 2012 #3
The fact that born in the US cthulu2016 May 2012 #5
"Natural born" does not mean "born in the US" DavidDvorkin May 2012 #23
And CT Birthers believe in that Jump Room Stargate to Mars story, doncha know... freshwest May 2012 #4
I've read lots of science fiction - nothing about birtherism in there TrogL May 2012 #6
Where did I claim that science fiction contained rightwingnuttery? freshwest May 2012 #8
I think we're talking past each other. TrogL May 2012 #29
If you're not a bagger, it doesn't apply. Don't look for offense where none is meant, okay? freshwest May 2012 #32
Nah, we're cool TrogL May 2012 #33
And Santa Claus died for our sins, but it was the Easter Bunny. hifiguy May 2012 #7
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