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In reply to the discussion: What the Hell Just Happened on MSNBC and CNN? [View all]LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)65. Ummm, Like What?
The physical building does belong to the landlord, and given that the renters are no longer 'renting,' since they are dead, he has the right to sashay anyone he wants through his property.
The San Bernardino Shooting happened on DECEMBER 2, 2015. There has been no information that the renters were in behind in the rent. If so, the landlord likely and would have been in his right to begin legal action to take possession of the PROPERTY, not its' contents, after 6 days pass the first of the month. Even then, legal action on possession of the PROPERTY in civil court would not began until after 14 days pass the first of the month AND the tenants (in this case the 6 month old daughter legal guardians) would have a 30 day notice to quit after judgement by a CIVIL Court of Law. The property in the unit would need to be removed by no later than December 31. 2015 in either case, after the signed tenant or tenants death.
He has no duty to protect the possessions of the deceased, really, or their kid (who was probably NOT on the rental agreement).
Actually, YES he does until the possessions are REMOVED from his property and placed onto the corner or curve adjacent to the property. Which is why in ANY eviction case, the former tenants property is placed on the CORNER or CURVE adjacent to the property -- as the Landlord is not liable to what happens to said property AFTER it is placed off the physical property of the landlord/owner.
If the relatives want that stuff, they need to come get it. I think they probably want to change their name, some of 'em.
The Property Via California Succession Laws are possessions of the NEXT OF KIN -- in this case, the 6 month old daughter. Random relatives cannot come up and "claim ownership" to the possessions. Since the 6 month old daughter can't physically remove the property, then her Guardian ad litem appointed by a Probate Court if necessary or Guardian as appointed by the Probate Court.
Not the first time we've seen this kind of postmortem. They went through the FT HOOD shooter's house, too, with a fine-toothed comb, and they picked Osama Bin Ladin's hideout in Abbottabad clean before it was razed to the ground. That lunatic who shot up the theater? They went through HIS "booby trapped apartment" too.
Bin Laden's "Hangout" was not in the United States of America were the U.S. Constitution guarantees a certain level of a right to privacy -- or were individual states have interstate laws of succession. As for the James Holmes, did you read the article you posted?
Police sent a bomb squad robot into James Holmes home early on July 21, 2012, just hours after the gunman slaughtered 12 people during a midnight showing of The Dark Night Rises.
Also, all over the pictures it cites: COLORADO DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
Law Enforcement has rights to enter the scene of a CRIME either with a warrant or if they believe a threat to life of others immediately exist:
Police sent a bomb squad robot into James Holmes home early on July 21, 2012,
And to take pictures of evidence at a crime scene. The MEDIA has a right to FOIA those pictures taken at a crime scene, thus is why the article you posted is dated for: Friday, September 11, 2015, 12:21 PM or a month and at least 10+ days AFTER police entered the home, not three days after as in the case of San Bernardino.....

As for the Fort Hood Shooter, there was no news stories to be found allowing Media Resources to Pillar his home three days after the incident. Law enforcement, yes, immediately as that is their right in a situation were human life is threaten. Media, NO!
People are fascinated with how "evil doers" live. It's just a thing with humans. They think they can see a "sign" in the detritus of their everyday lives that will provide a clue.
SOME HUMANS -- as displayed some of the other comments above, not ALL HUMANS prefer to have the personal contents of Mass Murderers displayed like a auction sell on National TV. Especially if doing so steps on the Right to Privacy of a 6 month old child who cannot speak for herself.

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One time that happened, the two reporters died soon thereafter--one murdered, the other shot by cop.
Octafish
Dec 2015
#1
Ruined! Same for the other guy, who was Jack Ruby's lawyer for a couple of days.
Octafish
Dec 2015
#33
Kerry Sanders (MSNBC) and Stepanie Elam (CNN) were just awful and creepy! They...
ChisolmTrailDem
Dec 2015
#4
I understand that the landlord was paid $1000 from a tv program (was it
No Vested Interest
Dec 2015
#28
I don't see how they could let go of the space so quickly if it had been filled with bomb material
Fast Walker 52
Dec 2015
#13
thanks, but still odd for the SB case, which is a high profile terrorism case
Fast Walker 52
Dec 2015
#64
My comment was directed at this point made by the OP: "Tainting the criminal scene... "
Buzz Clik
Dec 2015
#21
Hard to say, really. Were they in arrears in rent? Could it be said that they "abandoned the
MADem
Dec 2015
#55
Keep smacking your head and tipping your hat. That kid won't get a dime by the time
MADem
Dec 2015
#72
Prove your assertions or walk. You're the one who needs to deal with a few facts, here,
MADem
Dec 2015
#77
No. Law enforcement had walked away from the residence and returned control to the landlord.
Buzz Clik
Dec 2015
#10
Were you? Good grief, you're certainly insistent that someone -- with cameras everywhere--would
MADem
Dec 2015
#73