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IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
143. In your dreams and don't I wish.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:59 AM
Dec 2015

The supplement companies are not FDA regulated and this is a HUGE barrier. I have spoken with top people at multiple companies (multiple brands work) and their frustration goes back thirty years. My favorite recent story on the ridiculous challenges goes like this -

An ND associated with one of the well known supplement companies had a two year old diagnosed with HUS (hemolytic uremic syndrome) and things were bad. As her condition deteriorated, there was plenty of time for the ND and the MD at the well known and respected hospital to talk philosophy. Finally, with the little girl beginning to experience total organ failure, the talk was given to the parents about how acceptance of the inevitable needed to be dealt with. The ND made a decision; he began giving his little girl his particular brand of liquid trace minerals and lied when asked what he was doing for fear of being kicked out of the hospital. Within 24 hours her blood work numbers showed improvement and the MD demanded to know what he was doing; the ND continued to deny anything, the little girl had a completely unexpected full recovery and, once she was safe, confessed to his intervention.

The little girl is 15 now. The physician who observed this miracle has NEVER investigated further, but approximately two or three times a year, the ND receives a phone call from a parent who was told to call him BY THE MD with no further information. The ND makes a little care package, goes to the hospital, prays with the family, and then in a private place walks the parent (I was told it always seems to be the dad) through how to administer and keep quiet about what they are doing. The MD is not involved. If he was, he could be sued. The only time the ND hears from a parent is when there is no hope. This has been going on for a dozen years.

Your assumption that logic and a profit motive would automatically insure adequate investigation of my assertions is one I shared SIX AND A HALF YEARS AGO. It is more complicated than that, and I maintain my assertion that it isn't a "big pharma" conspiracy, but more bureaucracy and politics and posturing and pride. Plus, it is COMPLICATED with nutritional issues being impacted by previous generations (the vets document the impact of nutritional issues impacting two generations down from females who experience deprivation during pregnancy) and diet and regions preference issues - the preemies were EASY because they were documented already (and easy is a relative understatement), but then I had to figure out FOUR OTHER WAYS children ended up in a deficiency state, too, (maternal deficiency, absorption issues, malnutrition and exposure to teratogens) and there are probably more, since 13% don't respond.

This stuff should be worth millions. Part of the problem (?) is no one is going to get rich because there are already a dozen plus companies selling the stuff and it looks like all the brands work.

It cost me $20 per child for a three month supply of the stuff that destroyed the "takes two years for a preemie to catch up" MYTH.

The March of Dimes raised millions of dollars to help premature infants. Their top people get paid $500k each, and most of their fundraising supports their "expenses".

Ask me where the money is in that equation. Ask me about their interest level and support of any investigation at local, state and national levels into this intervention.

Ask me. I dare you.

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Hi, Ida. bigwillq Dec 2015 #1
Yeah! How is your health? IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #2
Fraternal. bigwillq Dec 2015 #3
That is Awesome madokie Dec 2015 #4
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #60
Keep it up Ida TexasProgresive Dec 2015 #5
No, not a drug - a different understanding of one of the causes IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #61
I remember. sibelian Dec 2015 #6
Thank you, sibelian. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #62
May good things come your way Ida elias49 Dec 2015 #7
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #63
i'm curious if you mean that you want her to make lots of money off the study she's been posting CreekDog Dec 2015 #132
ROFLMAO! "Make lots of money!" Please explain HOW. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #142
Knr roody Dec 2015 #8
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #64
When the people who are supposed to help you MuseRider Dec 2015 #9
Thank you, Muserider. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #65
I can't for the life of me figure out navarth Dec 2015 #10
Nature of the beast - some people are just mean on the Internet. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #67
Well, in any event, thanks for your good work. navarth Dec 2015 #120
Thanks for sharing your experience. Skidmore Dec 2015 #11
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #68
Keep up the good work, Ida.. fascinating. mountain grammy Dec 2015 #12
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #69
I didn't know your story, but I am amazed at what you accomplished LiberalEsto Dec 2015 #13
Thank you, and let me confess - that happened sometimes! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #70
What trace minerals did the kids in your study take? nt SunSeeker Dec 2015 #14
This may answer your question (and mine): Ghost Dog Dec 2015 #55
Take a look here -- IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #71
Thanks Ida. Will do. Ghost Dog Dec 2015 #97
I sent this by PM yesterday (family obligations). IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #72
I applaud you heaven05 Dec 2015 #15
Thank you - the courage of the families kept me going. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #73
do they sign standard medical waivers for medical research? CreekDog Dec 2015 #131
Do you know what a feasibility study is? IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #141
K & R - Amazing, Ida!! Duppers Dec 2015 #16
(Blush) and THANK YOU! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #74
Wow, amazing and thanks from the bottom of my heart. lark Dec 2015 #17
Thank YOU!!!! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #75
Cool stuff. blackspade Dec 2015 #18
Curing a condition that by definition is incurable... IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #76
K&R! Never Give Up, Ida... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #19
My favorite NIH epidemiologist encouraged the "tough skin growth" - IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #77
It's people like you SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #20
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #78
Yes you won! BTW loved that line in your story. kydo Dec 2015 #21
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #79
At the very least, your treatment seems to cure "misdiagnosis"! Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2015 #22
Truth! When your child picks up their Walker and runs across a parking lot IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #80
Thank you, Ida, for putting your story out here. I guess you'll just have to continue step by step. NBachers Dec 2015 #23
Most welcome! And I like to think some of that was about IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #81
No- some of it's just trying to find a right & acceptable way to say shitty things to people. NBachers Dec 2015 #126
Lol! There is truth in that. Maybe we do it with our political beliefs, too? IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #129
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2015 #24
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #82
What are these trace minerals? abelenkpe Dec 2015 #25
I sent you a PM as I had family obligations yesterday. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #83
Been awhile since I've seen your name. I'll be watching for your posts Half-Century Man Dec 2015 #26
Thank you. A good friend (deceased) organized IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #84
As you have pointed out Half-Century Man Dec 2015 #99
Ida, you are an inspiration and PumpkinAle Dec 2015 #27
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #85
thanks or sharing, Ida--you are a woman after me own heart! librechik Dec 2015 #28
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #86
Good story! MaggieD Dec 2015 #29
Thank you - and you agree with the veterinary world because IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #87
Congrats, IdaBriggs. As someone who needs extra B-12 and magnesium pnwmom Dec 2015 #30
Thank you - absorption issues seem to be key in the autism subset IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #88
IdaBriggs. I remember that now! Autumn Dec 2015 #31
Thank you, and I will! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #89
thank you for sharing. barbtries Dec 2015 #32
Thank you for reading and please do. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #90
Wow fasttense Dec 2015 #33
Thank you and I am. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #91
So glad you stuck with it UtahLib Dec 2015 #34
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #92
Good for you, Ida. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #35
Thank you for sharing your story and your support. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #93
SO interesting. Great share. I am not a member of the preemie community, but am an avid medical/ joanbarnes Dec 2015 #36
Preach it. I have a few other examples, and have been IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #94
Good luck to you and the babies voteearlyvoteoften Dec 2015 #37
Apparently I am "somebody" - bless her wisdom! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #95
My preemie is celebrating his 53rd birthday today! Glad all is well with you...n/t monmouth4 Dec 2015 #38
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #96
I am a great believer of "testimonials." question everything Dec 2015 #39
Thank you and I agree with you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #98
You should add a link to your OP Flying Squirrel Dec 2015 #40
The original is findable with an archive search -- IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #100
Thanks for sharing. Best of luck. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #41
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #101
THANK YOU! elleng Dec 2015 #42
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #102
:hug: you and your family, elleng Dec 2015 #107
Fascinating stuff. nt valerief Dec 2015 #43
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #103
THANK YOU for all you do & have done! K&R n/t Michigan-Arizona Dec 2015 #44
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #104
Keep up the great work! a2liberal Dec 2015 #45
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #105
You're welcome :) a2liberal Dec 2015 #122
Thanks for sharing your story and for your bbgrunt Dec 2015 #46
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #106
Some associated articles you might find interesting, if not helpful as well NotHardly Dec 2015 #47
We detailed out WHO and their use of Plumpy'Nut as one of the IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #108
The medical community in this country sucks emsimon33 Dec 2015 #48
I go back to my "bureaucracy not conspiracy" stance. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #110
Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #49
K&R... spanone Dec 2015 #50
Thank you. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #111
Bookmarking to absorb in full later. I love good news. Hekate Dec 2015 #51
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #112
Brava!! marym625 Dec 2015 #52
I finally got to watch that movie this summer - the lines have NOT CHANGED! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #113
something else you might find interesting marym625 Dec 2015 #119
k&r me b zola Dec 2015 #53
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #114
Somehow I managed to miss this whole thing over the years. JNelson6563 Dec 2015 #54
Truth! Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #115
Interesting. And I would like FlaGranny Dec 2015 #56
Chromosomal abnormalities seem to be a consistent thread in that subgroup. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #116
You found a cure for Cerebral Palsy? Iggo Dec 2015 #57
No, because cerebral palsy by definition is an incurable permanent mobility disorder. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #117
Your situation reminds me of what happened when the Seattle doctor pnwmom Dec 2015 #123
Very interesting. panader0 Dec 2015 #58
Self correction works 85% of the time. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #118
It is really irresponsible to keep repeating this project "success" on DU. Gormy Cuss Dec 2015 #59
This is something far more people in this thread need to read and understand mythology Dec 2015 #109
Who is going to fund research that challenges the paradigm and won't make a profit for anyone? pnwmom Dec 2015 #124
People like IdaBriggs figured out how important folate was in avoiding birth defects pnwmom Dec 2015 #121
A simple prophylactic, low risk intervention for premature infants would be worth millions Gormy Cuss Dec 2015 #133
No, it really wouldn't, because it involves preexisting supplements -- not some new drug. pnwmom Dec 2015 #134
Vitamin K shots Gormy Cuss Dec 2015 #150
In your dreams and don't I wish. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #143
Yes, I recall. As you may remember, I have been working on this IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #128
Again, it is irresponsible for you to tout this as a proven intervention Gormy Cuss Dec 2015 #135
She ISN'T touting this as proven. She's reporting how hard she's been working to get attention pnwmom Dec 2015 #136
" 4 out of 5 see improvement" and 83% are both cited Gormy Cuss Dec 2015 #149
I kept reading the post, trying to find the proof of her numbers REP Dec 2015 #158
This is great, Blue_In_AK Dec 2015 #66
Thank you! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #125
Holy Cats Ida!! haikugal Dec 2015 #127
Thank you! And yes, they are! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #146
You are one awesome woman IdaBriggs! Generic Other Dec 2015 #130
Appreciate that but they kick the thread - maybe someone needs to see it? IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #147
No, the OP is the one who needs to zip it. Gormy Cuss Dec 2015 #153
Still won't sit down and shut up. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #157
It took the American Academy of Pediatrics 14 years and 15 studies before they finally pnwmom Dec 2015 #137
Preach it. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #148
Can you link to your 501 (c) 3? I can't find it with the IRS lookup tool or Charity Navigator. LeftyMom Dec 2015 #138
We are NOT 501(c)(3). We are a Michigan non-profit. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #144
No, your Michigan non-profit status lapsed October 1, 2012. LeftyMom Dec 2015 #151
I'm seeing that your Michigan tax exempt status is Automatic Dissolution. LeftyMom Dec 2015 #139
You need to come to our next board meeting! IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #145
shows some foreclosure information on Zillow and Trulia snooper2 Dec 2015 #154
Sigh. Good to know. IdaBriggs Dec 2015 #155
Is this the website for the product you're suggesting people use? Because this sounds shady as hell. LeftyMom Dec 2015 #140
Thanks. Your posts and the hidden one on this thread should be read. PeaceNikki Dec 2015 #152
Wow. I wish people would read these posts. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #156
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