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951-Riverside

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4. The amount of guns available and homeless people on the streets should clue you in

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:50 PM

Dec 2015

America is a violent 3rd world shithole with pockets of "safe zones" for upper to middle class folks mixed in then you've got the rural racist extremists in remote areas.

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The United States is NOT a Developed Country by Western Standards [View all] Aerows Dec 2015 OP

In lots of other ways too. Everybody is better than us at keeping newborns and new mothers alive. Squinch Dec 2015 #1

Don't agree with your premise Kilgore Dec 2015 #2

Haiti might not be a reasonable comparison. nt elias49 Dec 2015 #5

Hyperbole (Haiti) is the best defense Aerows Dec 2015 #8

Actually I agree with the point you are making, but Kilgore Dec 2015 #11

Kilgore Aerows Dec 2015 #17

Not the way to look at it, Kilgore zentrum Dec 2015 #24

This^^^ MsLeopard Dec 2015 #31

Let me quibble ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #55

"it was determined that the rich didn't have enough money." FiveGoodMen Dec 2015 #67

Hmm ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #68

Greed is an ideology when people claim FiveGoodMen Dec 2015 #69

I think it masquerades as an ideology ... Straw Man Dec 2015 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author FiveGoodMen Dec 2015 #72

"Free-market" capitalism and the invisible hand FiveGoodMen Dec 2015 #73

Fair enough. Straw Man Dec 2015 #76

I'd say that lots of ideologies are lies (maybe all?) FiveGoodMen Dec 2015 #77

Indeed, yet they are presented by Milton Friedman and the rest of hifiguy Dec 2015 #82

The ideology of zentrum Dec 2015 #101

Your last sentence is a thread winner. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #60

Have you actually been to a third or fourth world country? Kilgore Dec 2015 #65

But the Clinton Foundation went down there to help zalinda Dec 2015 #75

Thank you. carla Dec 2015 #74

Ayup. hifiguy Dec 2015 #81

Loss of down? n/t xocet Dec 2015 #96

Yes. It's an intentional foul. hifiguy Dec 2015 #97

Thank you homegirl Dec 2015 #98

I wondered that myself. zentrum Dec 2015 #102

We are the English speaking version of Mexico. A perpetually "developing country." hunter Dec 2015 #39

There may be indeed be a Latin American parallel to what's being done to the U.S.: Argentina. forest444 Dec 2015 #54

Brazil may be a better comparison, but yes Recursion Dec 2015 #59

This is exactly what I am talking about. Aerows Dec 2015 #6

Then you need to be a bit more specific in your premise Kilgore Dec 2015 #9

It helps to be educated Aerows Dec 2015 #13

See post #11 Kilgore Dec 2015 #15

Indeed - you agree. n/t Aerows Dec 2015 #18

Comparing apples to oranges TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #26

Haiti might be a good example Matariki Dec 2015 #34

i'm comparing to a 4th world country! nt w0nderer Dec 2015 #42

I can summarize it nicely. Horse with no Name Dec 2015 #3

Which is exactly reminiscent of which regime, exactly, Aerows Dec 2015 #10

hah, indeed Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #22

Not to mention a militarized police force at every local level n/t 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #47

The amount of guns available and homeless people on the streets should clue you in 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #4

It appears we have some serious interior cleaning up to do Aerows Dec 2015 #7

The problem is that the people who run things - hifiguy Dec 2015 #83

Those are dangerous questions. We're somewhere between a developed nation and a banana republic LittleBlue Dec 2015 #12

On the fucking contrary! Aerows Dec 2015 #14

Very true LittleBlue Dec 2015 #19

Ooof! elias49 Dec 2015 #50

The United States is a developed (but rough in some edges) nation if you compare it to other nations AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #16

Squatting to use the toilet is actually a healthier and more natural position. onehandle Dec 2015 #21

I was going to point that out about the toilet too Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #23

Japan has squat toilets eom drmeow Dec 2015 #30

Owning a car is also basically a luxury in Japan AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #44

But it doesn't mean drmeow Dec 2015 #49

Japan has mass transit we have very little. You almost have to have a car in the US. n/t haikugal Dec 2015 #79

You'd appreciate having to use a car if you had to ride in crowded subway trains all the time... AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #89

I have and I do appreciate the time saved as well, however....we need mass transit. haikugal Dec 2015 #91

Squat toilets are extremely common throughout Asia. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2015 #80

Perhaps I should have stated "By Western Standards" Aerows Dec 2015 #20

The first time I went to the Netherlands last year RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #25

As someone said, we have the best propaganda. TryLogic Dec 2015 #37

Holland also has a levee system that prevents tragedies like Katrina/NOLA. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #90

The U.S. does not have universal health care, Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #27

That's simply not true. We have the best medicine sales people. hunter Dec 2015 #66

Nope, it's victorian era England only with Phlem Dec 2015 #28

Indeed. hifiguy Dec 2015 #86

Decaying is the operative word here. Cleita Dec 2015 #29

What we have become is a second world nation. Fozzledick Dec 2015 #32

+1 AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #36

^This^ smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #61

The Europeans haven't had to deal with racism that makes public support of welfare go down AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #33

don't forget to mention the treatment of women--we rank 76th in the world in terms of women niyad Dec 2015 #35

+1 F4lconF16 Dec 2015 #40

You also have to remember that Western Europe focused on making a welfare state AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #38

Germany and Japan lost World War II. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #46

And everyone has been cool with that setup for the most part The2ndWheel Dec 2015 #52

Let's see here. SmittynMo Dec 2015 #41

We have a decaying infrastructure so people believe times are tough.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #43

But they WORKED HARD to steal our money! AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #45

What dump we live in....Hard to believe folks want to live here. ileus Dec 2015 #48

It is a conundrum. But we still have a lot of positives that haven't been destroyed erronis Dec 2015 #94

Its because we have allowed corporations to take over our government and control the mass media. Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #51

Compare the U.S. population to others around it The2ndWheel Dec 2015 #53

The USA is undoubtably in decline for the majority of Americans, I agree. Quantess Dec 2015 #56

As long as the US has no universal healthcare, it will never be considered a developed nation prouddemfromaustin44 Dec 2015 #57

In lots of other ways, too. Brazil is a pretty good comparison. Recursion Dec 2015 #58

If Brazil = same as US 1939 Dec 2015 #63

It's not the same Recursion Dec 2015 #64

It's much safer here, especially for women BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #78

"Apart from death-by-gun, of course." EX500rider Dec 2015 #93

Oops; I was looking at ownership...my bad BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #99

Brazil's cities are much more dangerous than American cities AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #92

Right, about as much more dangerous than our cities as our are than Canada's (nt) Recursion Dec 2015 #100

If we can't afford to educate our children, to heal our sick or care for our elderly ... Scuba Dec 2015 #62

The people and corporations with all the money hifiguy Dec 2015 #85

You mean like the Navy protecting international trade? Scuba Dec 2015 #87

Bingo. The highest priority of this nation is hifiguy Dec 2015 #88

I know a public health nurse that visited Cuba . . FairWinds Dec 2015 #70

Last country on Earth not using the metric system GreatGazoo Dec 2015 #84

rec & kick MerryBlooms Dec 2015 #95