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90. Re: waking up or in bed. Hypnagogic hallucination.

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:58 AM

Dec 2015

I've had one. They usually happen when sleep deprived, or in early morning. In my case I was extremely sleep deprived and fell asleep on my couch.

When I woke up, I could not move. There was a ominous presence in the room with me and I could not breath. Fortunately, I knew about hypnagogia so I knew what was happening. It was weird being suspended halfway between sleep and awake, between dream and awareness. However, it is a well known and common neurological condition. It is also a bit scary.

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Hypnagogia

In the old days, hypnagogia was interpreted as a succubus, or a night hag. More recently as space aliens, or ghosts. The effect takes on whatever attributes of current culture. However, it is a natural and well understood effect of the brain called hypnagogia. No ghosts, aliens, night hags, or succubi necessary to explain it.

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