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In reply to the discussion: Who are we fighting in Afghanistan? [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)17. Trillions for Billionaires!
Most of the most profitable businesses on the planet are in the mineral extraction line.
In 2014, three of the Top 10 most profitable corporations were oil companies.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2015/10/24/24-7-wall-st-most-profitable-companies/74501312/
You know, when it comes to valuable property, especially real property, you need to have the best protection money can buy, the Government of the United States (formerly known as "We the People"

You know who gets called a "conspiracy theorist" for mentioning the BFEE around now?
Greg Palast.
Just for mentioning Barrick Gold, one of Poppy Bush's favorite charities, the secret government did all it could to silence The Guardian and Greg Palast...

Their offense, of course, was telling the truth. They had the audacity to mention the "Why" and "How" behind Poppy's chums getting the free stuff in the form of once public property.
Poppy Strikes Gold
Sunday, April 27, 2008
Originally Posted July 9, 2003
By Greg Palast
EXCERPT...
And while the Bush family steadfastly believes that ex-felons should not have the right to vote for president, they have no objection to ex-cons putting presidents on their payroll. In 1996, despite pleas by U.S. church leaders, Poppy Bush gave several speeches (he charges $100,000 per talk) sponsored by organizations run by Rev. Sun Myung Moon, cult leader, tax cheatand formerly the guest of the U.S. federal prison system. Some of the loot for the Republican effort in the 19972000 election cycles came from an outfit called Barrick Corporation.
The sum, while over $100,000, is comparatively small change for the GOP, yet it seemed quite a gesture for a corporation based in Canada. Technically, the funds came from those associated with the Canadian's U.S. unit, Barrick Gold Strike.
They could well afford it. [font color="green"]In the final days of the Bush (Senior) administration, the Interior Department made an extraordinary but little noticed change in procedures under the 1872 Mining Law, the gold rushera act that permitted those whiskered small-time prospectors with their tin pans and mules to stake claims on their tiny plots. The department initiated an expedited procedure for mining companies that allowed Barrick to swiftly lay claim to the largest gold find in America. In the terminology of the law, Barrick could "perfect its patent" on the estimated $10 billion in orefor which Barrick paid the U.S. Treasury a little under $10,000. Eureka![/font color]
Barrick, of course, had to put up cash for the initial property rights and the cost of digging out the booty (and the cost of donations, in smaller amounts, to support Nevada's Democratic senator, Harry Reid). Still, the shift in rules paid off big time: According to experts at the Mineral Policy Center of Washington, DC, Barrick savedand the U.S. taxpayer losta cool billion or so. Upon taking office, Bill Clinton's new interior secretary, Bruce Babbitt, called Barrick's claim the "biggest gold heist since the days of Butch Cassidy." Nevertheless, because the company followed the fast-track process laid out for them under Bush, this corporate Goldfinger had Babbitt by the legal nuggets. Clinton had no choice but to give them the gold mine while the public got the shaft.
Barrick says it had no contact whatsoever with the president at the time of the rules change.(1) There was always a place in Barrick's heart for the older Bushand a place on its payroll. In 1995, Barrick hired the former president as Honorary Senior Advisor to the Toronto company's International Advisory Board. Bush joined at the suggestion of former Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney, who, like Bush, had been ignominiously booted from office. I was a bit surprised that the president had signed on. When Bush was voted out of the White House, he vowed never to lobby or join a corporate board. The chairman of Barrick openly boasts that granting the title "Senior Advisor" was a sly maneuver to help Bush tiptoe around this promise.
CONTINUED...
http://www.gregpalast.com/poppy-strikes-gold/
Wow. So his flock of supporters in the media and elsewhere wanted it known: George Herbert Walker Bush did do something nice when he was President. It just happened to be that it was for a rich, powerful corporation.
The story continues, in which Mr. Palast details how said gold mining company employed fascist tactics to take over the mine, part of which involved bulldozing the miners homes and mines, some with the miners still inside. Let that, uh, sink in. For his trouble in reporting the story, Barrick threatened to sue.
The Truth Buried Alive
By Greg Palast, From The Best Democracy Money Can Buy (Penguin/Plume, 2003)
Source: UTNE Reader
April 2003 Issue
EXCERPT...
Bad news. In July 2001, in the middle of trying to get out the word of the theft of the election in Florida, [font color="red"]I was about to become the guinea pig, the test case, for an attempt by a multinational corporation to suppress free speech in the USA using British libel law. I have a U.S.-based Web site for Americans who cant otherwise read my columns or view my BBC television reports. The gold-mining company held my English newspaper liable for aggravated damages for my publishing the story in the USA. If I did not pull the Bush-Barrick story off my U.S. Web site, my paper would face a ruinously costly fight.(1)[/font color]
Panicked, the Guardian legal department begged me to delete not just the English versions of the story but also my Spanish translation, printed in Bolivia. (Caramba!)
The Goldfingers didnt stop there. [font color="green"]Barricks lawyers told our papers that I personally would be sued in the United Kingdom over Web publications of my story in America, because the Web could be accessed in Britain. The success of this legal strategy would effectively annul the U.S. Bill of Rights.[/font color] Speak freely in the USA, but if your words are carried on a U.S. Web site, you may be sued in Britain. The Declaration of Independence would be null and void, at least for libel law. Suddenly, instead of the Internet becoming a means of spreading press freedom, the means to break through censorship, it would become the electronic highway for delivering repression.
And repression was winning. InterPress Services (IPS) of Washington, DC, sent a reporter to Tanzania with Lissu. They received a note from Barrick that said if the wire service ran a story that repeated the allegations, the company would sue. IPS did not run the story.
I was worried about Lissu. On July 19, 2001, a group of Tanzanian police interest lawyers wrote the nations president asking for an investigationinstead, Lissus law partner in Dar es Salaam was arrested. The police were hunting for Lissu. They broke into his home and office and turned them upside down looking for the names of Lissus sources, his whereabouts and the evidence he gathered on the mine site clearance. This was more than a legal skirmish. Over the next months, demonstrations by vicims families were broken up by police thugs. A member of Parliament joining protesters was beaten and hospitalized. I had to raise cash quick to get Lissu out, and with him, his copies of police files with more evidence of the killings. I called Maude Barlow, the Ralph Nader of Canada, head of the Council of Canadians. Without hesitation, she teamed up with Friends of the Earth in Holland, raised funds and prepared a press conferenceand in August tipped the story to the Globe & Mail, Canadas national paper.
CONTINUED...
http://www.mapcruzin.com/palast-2.htm
So. Greg Palast did something very bad from the BFEE perspective: He told the truth, including the bits about the buried alive gold miners, as it happens. So, the Big Corporation sued and sued and sued. With their deep pockets, they can buy justice, judges, prime ministers, presidents and whoever and whatever else they need to turn a buck, or, as in the case above, get some free stuff in cash out of the public's ground.
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Please provide an answer to the question posed in the OP: Who are we fighting in Afganistan. nt
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2016
#128
We're fighting the POPPY MANUFACTURES....WE WANT TO CONTROL THE HEROIN TRADE AS ALWAYS!
ViseGrip
Jan 2016
#126
Historical note: I think the comment to which you allude came, non from Shrub, but from
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2015
#92
You know whose side we're on in Afghanistan? The "brown people", as you beautifully put it
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2015
#23
I wish I could forget the time Obama repeated Bush line Taliban never offered up bin laden.
Octafish
Dec 2015
#61
We have a commander in chief who knows that is not true, what a ridiculous thing to say
GummyBearz
Dec 2015
#9
Sibel Edmonds knew, so she was fired and slapped with a gag order when she tried to tell. nt
tblue37
Jan 2016
#120
Can you handle the truth? It's to OWN THE LAND. GOOGLE "Mineral wealth of Afghanistan"!!!!
WinkyDink
Dec 2015
#10
And yet there are millions of americans who think that 3000 American lives in NYC would mean
WinkyDink
Jan 2016
#130
Allowing our favored industries first dibs at a trillion dollar's worth of raw materials
arcane1
Dec 2015
#26
The US invasion of Afghanistan was justified and fully supported by many allies.
tabasco
Dec 2015
#46
Did you note that we're still wasting lives and money in Afghanistan, 15 years later?
Scuba
Dec 2015
#50
If that's the only way you can think of to apprehend criminals you're not very thoughtful.
Scuba
Dec 2015
#71
Hey if you want to defend one of the worst foreign policy blunders in American history, be my guest.
Scuba
Dec 2015
#81
In case you haven't noticed, we haven't taken them down, 15 years and a trillion dollars later.
Scuba
Dec 2015
#83
Historical note: the Taliban agreed to extradite bin Laden to a court with international
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2015
#93
So 15 years later and why are we still there? How many decades do we need to be there?
Rex
Dec 2015
#55
''Money trumps peace.'' -- appointed pretzeldent George Walker Bush, Feb. 14, 2007
Octafish
Dec 2015
#73