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Octafish

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100. Media Blackout shows it is Great Book.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 09:29 PM
Dec 2015

Rupert Murdoch and friends in Corporate McPravda are ignoring what it means for how the Inited Stste has become a safe zone for traitors, warmongers, and plutocrats.





“Every president has been manipulated by national security officials”: David Talbot exposes America’s “deep state”

From World War II though JFK, "The Devil's Chessboard" explores how Allen Dulles used the CIA as a tool of elites

LIAM O'DONOGHUE
Salon.com, Oct. 15, 2015

This year’s best spy thriller isn’t fiction – it’s history. David Talbot’s previous book, the bestseller “Brothers: The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years” explored Robert F. Kennedy’s search for the truth following his brother’s murder. His new work, “The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America’s Secret Government,” zooms out from JFK’s murder to investigate the rise of the shadowy network that Talbot holds ultimately responsible for the president’s assassination.

This isn’t merely a whodunit story, though. Talbot’s ultimate goal is exploring how the rise of the “deep state” has impacted the trajectory of America, and given our nation’s vast influence, the rest of the planet. “To thoroughly and honestly analyze (former CIA director) Allen Dulles’s legacy is to analyze the current state of national security in America and how it undermines democracy,” Talbot told Salon. “To really grapple with what is in my book is not just to grapple with history. It is to grapple with our current problems.”

Just as America’s current national security apparatus has used terrorism as a justification for spying on American citizens, torture, and the annihilation of innocent civilians as collateral damage, Talbot places these justifications in a Cold War context, by showing how spymaster Allen Dulles shrugged off countless atrocities using the threat of communism. For readers unfamiliar with Dulles’ history, the first few chapters are like being splashed in the face with a bucket of ice water. Talbot’s assertion that Dulles is a psychopath is hard to dismiss after the intelligence agent is shown covering up the Holocaust prior to America’s intervention into World War II by keeping crucial information exposing the horrors of concentration camps from reaching President Roosevelt. Allen Dulles and his fellow Cold Warriors saw Russia, a U.S. ally during World War II – not Nazi Germany – as the real enemy.

Jumping from geopolitical strategy to the psychological realm, Talbot details how it was not only enemies who had reason to fear Dulles, but his own friends and family, as well. The book veers into a dark, terrifying investigation of the MKUltra Project, a hideous “mind control program” developed by the CIA during Dulles’ reign as director, that dosed unsuspecting people with LSD, pushed the limits of sleep deprivation and engaged in other deeply unethical experiments. The program has been exposed, bit by bit, over decades, thanks to lawsuits and previous investigative reporting, but Talbot sheds light on how Dulles subjected his own son and attempted to “enroll” his wife in these hideous “therapies.”

By the time “The Devil’s Chessboard” eventually climaxes with the events that unfolded in Dallas in 1963, Talbot’s argument that Dulles had both the power and temperament to execute such a plot is more than believable. “Dulles’ favorite word about someone was whether they were useful or not,” Talbot said. “And that’s the way he thought of everyone – to what extent could he use them.”

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It's connecting the dots the CIA Controlled & Corporate Owned News will never mention, even if their secret Swiss bank accounts depended on it.

This is exactly what we've so hard worked to see, MrMickeysMom. You and me and everybody who gives a darn about where the nation has gone. Finally, the truth is getting into the light of day.

Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! Happy New Year to you and yours, my Friend!

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It's a conspiracy. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #1
That's what Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler, USMC (ret.) wrote. Octafish Dec 2015 #6
I'm not psychic so much as you are predictable. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #18
You missed my point, then. Octafish Dec 2015 #19
I think the arc of history bends towards chaos. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #22
You got it. You know who else really understands ''Realpolitik''? Octafish Dec 2015 #51
Game, Set and Match. CanSocDem Dec 2015 #65
Yeah, that's fascinating. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #98
Maybe tied to the JFK shooting?? nt Logical Dec 2015 #84
The same people - those who profit - work for war. Octafish Dec 2015 #88
You're not able to answer the question. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #78
No question was asked. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #95
So why don't you follow your own advice? Octafish Jan 2016 #121
Sorry, I may get an alert for this but it just seems to me 7wo7rees Jan 2016 #129
I guess you haven't an answer either. . . .n/t annabanana Dec 2015 #87
As a rule, I only provide answers to questions asked in earnest. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #96
Please provide an answer to the question posed in the OP: Who are we fighting in Afganistan. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #128
We're fighting the POPPY MANUFACTURES....WE WANT TO CONTROL THE HEROIN TRADE AS ALWAYS! ViseGrip Jan 2016 #126
. Wilms Dec 2015 #2
You converted me into a Monkees fan. Octafish Dec 2015 #11
from the Ministry of Truth? Downwinder Dec 2015 #20
We've always been at pre-emptive war with Eurasia. Octafish Dec 2015 #21
Did Shrub spill the beans with his comment Downwinder Dec 2015 #27
Adam Curtis doc for the BBC... GreatGazoo Dec 2015 #40
Historical note: I think the comment to which you allude came, non from Shrub, but from KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #92
Brown people mwrguy Dec 2015 #3
Brown people are ottomanitacally enemy. Octafish Dec 2015 #12
You know whose side we're on in Afghanistan? The "brown people", as you beautifully put it muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #23
Which bad guys? Octafish Dec 2015 #33
Your memory is apalling muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #34
I wish I could forget the time Obama repeated Bush line Taliban never offered up bin laden. Octafish Dec 2015 #61
This is correct. n/t Ghost Dog Dec 2015 #67
Waste of time. Rex Dec 2015 #38
You should see what they're planning for the Home Front. Octafish Dec 2015 #62
A lot of Afghans don't like their government. CJCRANE Dec 2015 #76
While its most certainly a position of some in the right... Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #35
The Brown People bigwillq Dec 2015 #4
Why would Obama fight people because they are brown?? GummyBearz Dec 2015 #5
Because they're terrarists bigwillq Dec 2015 #7
We have a commander in chief who knows that is not true, what a ridiculous thing to say GummyBearz Dec 2015 #9
I was being sarcastic (kind of) bigwillq Dec 2015 #24
They are soooo ungrateful. Octafish Dec 2015 #13
You know, the bad guys gratuitous Dec 2015 #8
Speaking of money... You know who's getting RICH off the war on ISIS? Octafish Dec 2015 #14
Sibel Edmonds knew, so she was fired and slapped with a gag order when she tried to tell. nt tblue37 Jan 2016 #120
Can you handle the truth? It's to OWN THE LAND. GOOGLE "Mineral wealth of Afghanistan"!!!! WinkyDink Dec 2015 #10
Trillions for Billionaires! Octafish Dec 2015 #17
Great post, Octafish. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #43
And yet there are millions of americans who think that 3000 American lives in NYC would mean WinkyDink Jan 2016 #130
+1000. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #44
and cell phones klyon Dec 2015 #70
Everyone wants Afghanistan for the location and resources KentuckyWoman Dec 2015 #15
Bush, Enron, UNOCAL and the Taliban Octafish Dec 2015 #29
Some combination of scary bogeymen. We lost. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #16
I was hoping we would have closed the books back in 2009. Octafish Dec 2015 #31
WHY EVIL DOERS, that's who, SIR! bobthedrummer Dec 2015 #25
He may be the only uncorrupted guy in that whole bunch. Octafish Dec 2015 #52
Allowing our favored industries first dibs at a trillion dollar's worth of raw materials arcane1 Dec 2015 #26
That is a lot of awesome. Plus, the location! Octafish Dec 2015 #58
^^This, and of course to save face johnnypanic42 Dec 2015 #77
We're fighting FOR heroin. Rich people must get richer, after all. nt valerief Dec 2015 #28
Same Ol' World Odor Octafish Dec 2015 #64
The Nazis, cause they bombed Pearl Harbor. Crack a book for Pete's sake. Glassunion Dec 2015 #30
The American Dream Octafish Dec 2015 #66
Everybody Matrosov Dec 2015 #32
We need more guns to protect our ideals. Octafish Dec 2015 #94
Well we can eliminate the producers of heroin malaise Dec 2015 #36
The Politics of Afghan Opium (2002) Octafish Dec 2015 #104
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Jan 2016 #110
Eurasia. Or was that Eastasia? PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #37
Got a box of rocks to boot for ever... Octafish Jan 2016 #105
Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia. Fozzledick Jan 2016 #122
The M$M likes this war, not enough are complaining and the ones that do Rex Dec 2015 #39
Maybe the big enemy isn't overseas at all. Octafish Jan 2016 #112
"Somebody" is making a lot of money off their poppy crops n/t Holly_Hobby Dec 2015 #41
The Real ''Surge'' Octafish Jan 2016 #127
Check the checklist ... Scuba Dec 2015 #42
The US invasion of Afghanistan was justified and fully supported by many allies. tabasco Dec 2015 #46
Sorry, but 9/11 should have been treated like the crime it was. Scuba Dec 2015 #47
That's like, your opinion, man. n/t tabasco Dec 2015 #49
Did you note that we're still wasting lives and money in Afghanistan, 15 years later? Scuba Dec 2015 #50
Er uh...er uh...well that is besides the point! Rex Dec 2015 #54
Thanks to Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq. tabasco Dec 2015 #59
Yeah and millions of us agree with it, man. Rex Dec 2015 #53
There's like 300 million in the US alone. tabasco Dec 2015 #60
"but 9/11 should have been treated like the crime it was" EX500rider Dec 2015 #68
If that's the only way you can think of to apprehend criminals you're not very thoughtful. Scuba Dec 2015 #71
Speaking of not very thoughtful... EX500rider Dec 2015 #72
"Beef up " means to add to. And legitimizing the CRIME by ... Scuba Dec 2015 #74
So you think law enforcement... EX500rider Dec 2015 #75
Ever hear of a SWAT team? 'Cause that's what took out Bin Laden. Scuba Dec 2015 #79
Yeah he was hiding in a house with a few guards.. EX500rider Dec 2015 #80
Hey if you want to defend one of the worst foreign policy blunders in American history, be my guest. Scuba Dec 2015 #81
Taking down the Taliban is the worst blunder in YOUR opinion... EX500rider Dec 2015 #82
In case you haven't noticed, we haven't taken them down, 15 years and a trillion dollars later. Scuba Dec 2015 #83
Actually we did...they are no longer the government of Afghanistan.. EX500rider Dec 2015 #86
The difference between a SWAT team and a US tier one military unit.. TipTok Dec 2015 #90
Seal Team Six is no fucking SWAT Team. Your ignorance of basic tactical msanthrope Jan 2016 #109
Condescension works great for building animus among the lower ranks. Octafish Jan 2016 #124
Al Qaeda was, like, 50 guys total truebluegreen Dec 2015 #103
Maybe you missed the African Embassy bombings... EX500rider Jan 2016 #108
Wikipedia? Srsly? truebluegreen Jan 2016 #119
Which law enforcement agency would you have sent? TipTok Dec 2015 #89
Historical note: the Taliban agreed to extradite bin Laden to a court with international KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #93
If by "we" you mean NATO and Afghan Army forces tabasco Dec 2015 #45
So 15 years later and why are we still there? How many decades do we need to be there? Rex Dec 2015 #55
We are saving their mineral resources and poppies JEB Dec 2015 #48
Strange Victory Octafish Dec 2015 #102
They are just pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. JEB Jan 2016 #113
We are not fighting, we are making sure the opium drug lords have security from Rex Dec 2015 #56
Well said. Remember when Seymour Hersh had a job at The New Yorker? Octafish Dec 2015 #101
Who are we NOT fighting in Afghanistan? Wounded Bear Dec 2015 #57
Germany? Octafish Jan 2016 #114
Bad people. Don't you like cheap oil? TBF Dec 2015 #63
All the oil in the world won't bring back a lost life. Octafish Jan 2016 #115
... TBF Jan 2016 #116
We are fighting the people that assassinated JFK. kwassa Dec 2015 #69
''Money trumps peace.'' -- appointed pretzeldent George Walker Bush, Feb. 14, 2007 Octafish Dec 2015 #73
The corporate media seems to conveniently forget to report a lot of things. Rex Dec 2015 #85
That seems like synchronicity, so much serendipity. Octafish Dec 2015 #91
This has been a year of some interesting books, don't you think? MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #99
Media Blackout shows it is Great Book. Octafish Dec 2015 #100
And it's 1-2-3, what are we fighting for? Don't ask me, I don't KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #97
One Definition of Insanity Octafish Jan 2016 #123
;-) WinkyDink Jan 2016 #131
Kaos... madinmaryland Jan 2016 #106
A Strategy of Tension Octafish Jan 2016 #125
And what are we fighting for? bluedigger Jan 2016 #107
He's a Drug Store Truck Drivin' Man Octafish Jan 2016 #118
We are fighting ourselves. raouldukelives Jan 2016 #111
Operation CYCLONE Octafish Jan 2016 #117
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