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cali

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Sun Jan 3, 2016, 05:56 AM Jan 2016

Here's the history of the Bundy mess [View all]

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The land to which Cliven Bundy claims ancestral rights was originally inhabited by the Moapa Paiute People.[20] In 1848, as part of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, the United States purchased from Mexico land that is now the southwestern region of the United States. Since then, the government has continuously owned land in what is now Nevada, including the Bunkerville Allotment.[3][21] The Nevada Territory, which was partitioned in 1861 from the Utah Territory, became a state in 1864. The original settlers in the 1840s and 1850s were Mormons from Utah and southern small-time farmers and ranchers from Louisiana, Arkansas, and Mississippi. After the end of the American Civil War, much of the land was settled by rural farmers, squatters and small-time cattle ranchers from Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Missouri and Kansas, escaping from the post-Civil War Reconstruction and the associated violence and displacement.[citation needed] Since 1934 federal rangelands in Nevada have been managed principally by either the Bureau of Land Management or its predecessor, the United States Grazing Service, or the United States Forest Service. As of 2010, 47.8 million acres[22] (more than two-thirds of Nevada's 70.3 million acres) were managed by the BLM. Throughout the nation, the BLM manages nearly 18,000 grazing permits and leases,[23] of which about 700 are in Nevada.[24] The season of use and the details of forage are stipulated in permits and leases; thus federal control can be exerted on the land used for grazing.[23]

Permits Edit
Under Bureau of Land Management permits first issued in 1954, Bundy grazed his cattle legally and paid his grazing fees on the Bunkerville Allotment until 1993. In that year, as a protest, Bundy did not pay to renew his permit, and it was canceled in 1994.[25] Though the agency made several attempts to have Bundy renew the permit, the rancher declared that he no longer recognized the BLM's authority to regulate his grazing and he asserted that he had "vested rights" to graze cattle on the land.[3] Federal courts have consistently ruled against Bundy, finding that he is a trespasser with no right to graze on federal land and authorizing the BLM to remove his cattle and levy damages for unauthorized use.[3][4]

Bundy has since accumulated more than $1 million of unpaid grazing fees and court-ordered fines.[12][26] The Portland Oregonian newspaper reported in May 2014 that the amount that Bundy owed stood in "stark contrast" to the situation in Oregon, where just 45 of the state's roughly 1,100 grazing permit holders collectively owed $18,759 in past-due payments to the BLM.[27] Excluding Bundy's unpaid fees, the total of all late grazing fees owed nationwide to the BLM was only $237,000, the newspaper said.[28]

Bundy's worldview Edit
Bundy has said he does not recognize and will not submit to federal police power over land that he believes belongs to the "sovereign state of Nevada."[29] He said: "I abide by all Nevada state laws. But I don't recognize the United States government as even existing."[29][30] Bundy also denied the jurisdiction of the federal court system over Nevada land, and he filed an unsuccessful motion to dismiss the Bureau of Land Management case against him by claiming the federal courts have no jurisdiction because he is a "citizen of Nevada, not the territory of Nevada".[30] Bundy also believes that federally owned land in Nevada actually belongs to the state.[31][32] According to The Guardian, Bundy told his supporters that "We definitely don't recognize [the BLM director's] jurisdiction or authority, his arresting power or policing power in any way," and in interviews he used the language of the sovereign citizen movement, thereby gaining the support of members of the Oath Keepers, the White Mountain Militia and the Praetorian Guard militias.[33] Followers of the sovereign citizen movement generally believe that the U.S. government is illegitimate.[34] The movement is considered by the FBI as the nation’s top domestic terrorism threat.[35][36]

J. J. MacNab, who writes for Forbes about anti-government extremism, has described Bundy’s views as inspired by the sovereign citizen movement, whose adherents believe that the county sheriff is the most powerful law-enforcement officer in the country, with authority superior to that of any federal agent, local law-enforcement agency or any other elected official.[37] On April 12, 2014, Bundy "ordered" Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie to confront the federal agents, disarm them and deliver their arms to Bundy within an hour of his demand. He later expressed disappointment that Gillespie did not comply, and he said that the demand had applied to all sheriffs in the country.[37][38]

The Southern Poverty Law Center has described Bundy's views as closely aligned with those of the Posse Comitatus organization, and it has also asserted that such self-described "patriot" groups were focused on secession, nullification, state sovereignty and the principles of the Tenther movement.[39][40]

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Much more at link:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

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In other words, he's a loon. drm604 Jan 2016 #1
Lol. That about sums it up, and he's not the only one. cali Jan 2016 #2
Just like rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #6
And a Black Man Becoming President of busterbrown Jan 2016 #3
This started in 1994, way before Obama was on the scene MiniMe Jan 2016 #8
Their group is filled with racists. busterbrown Jan 2016 #10
No doubt MiniMe Jan 2016 #11
Very interesting davidpdx Jan 2016 #4
where is the media on this Coolest Ranger Jan 2016 #5
Because most people don't care. Igel Jan 2016 #7
So for almost forty years he paid the fees to the BLM csziggy Jan 2016 #9
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