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135. Quakers have never had women as other than equal.

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Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:10 AM

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Why does every religion on the planet [View all] malaise Jan 2016 OP

Yes, it is. And not every. I'm Wiccan. TDale313 Jan 2016 #1

Have you heard of Diane Stein ? BlueJazz Jan 2016 #16

Doesn't Mary . . . Depaysement Jan 2016 #2

I dunno, maybe we should ask temporary311 Jan 2016 #3

Yes I know the Catholic hierarchy is sexist Depaysement Jan 2016 #5

So it's an "awesome revelation" Mendocino Jan 2016 #9

Oh spare me Depaysement Jan 2016 #25

Why not answer the question? lunatica Jan 2016 #86

I did Depaysement Jan 2016 #123

And of course she was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #159

That is a different issue though treestar Jan 2016 #34

"women in inferior positions" is the issue of the OP (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #95

No Mendocino Jan 2016 #4

Zero Depaysement Jan 2016 #6

Have you forgotten Pope Joan? Jim Lane Jan 2016 #125

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Only because she was a virgin. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #15

Well they said she was a virgin but since there was no artificial insemination back then malaise Jan 2016 #18

What's even more misogynistic is the idea of original sin. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #21

That right there abelenkpe Jan 2016 #27

Not a single one of my friends stayed in the Church after they were old enough to leave. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #30

Only one of my siblings raised her sons Catholic malaise Jan 2016 #57

Who needs the additonal guilt? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #60

Original sin is corrosive and abusive. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2016 #58

Very well said! Wish I could rec this post! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #64

Thank you, kind fan. The Christians have no good answer for me on that. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2016 #69

Walking away is the best policy Warpy Jan 2016 #78

I had profound doubts about that nonsense by the time I was 10. hifiguy Jan 2016 #83

Excellent post malaise Jan 2016 #140

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Yep - I think the only person ever blamed for everything more than women malaise Jan 2016 #33

THANKS Obama! randys1 Jan 2016 #66

+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #138

+ a brazilian!!! hifiguy Jan 2016 #48

"Virgin" is a mistranslation of "young woman". Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2016 #90

Or they said she was a young woman truebluegreen Jan 2016 #130

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Hold yourself to a decent standard malaise Jan 2016 #38

He's dead, Jim! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #39

I was going to add - have a good life malaise Jan 2016 #40

I think we've had a "divine intervention " Mendocino Jan 2016 #41

Hehehehehhe malaise Jan 2016 #44

I just don't know my place! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #42

That damn Mary Mendocino Jan 2016 #51

The RCC: proudly shaming women for over 1000 years. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #54

Goes back to Eve Mendocino Jan 2016 #61

Yep, it was all HER fault! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #62

They get older, Mendocino Jan 2016 #67

Some break free, more than a few DUers were raised as fundamentalist Christians. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #68

Point taken Mendocino Jan 2016 #113

Nope, it's not but they've made it their modern day crusade and they have the numbers to wage it. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #115

I agree Mendocino Jan 2016 #118

Yes, many do but the only one powerful enough here to affect laws is Christianity. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #119

Your facts are wrong. Again. rug Jan 2016 #73

Catholic Church and the politics of abortion: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #79

"The RCC was behind every law restricting access to birth control, women's health clinics and rug Jan 2016 #82

Every recent law, splitting hairs about how involved the RCC is in restricting my rights? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #85

Knowing the facts is not splitting hairs. And the issue is far greater than "your" rights. rug Jan 2016 #93

Anyone who feels he needs to defend the Church from its victims is no ally. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #94

Has someone ordained you to declaim who is or who is not an ally of whatever you think you're doing? rug Jan 2016 #99

Oops, missed one: Catholic dominance over hospitals endangers women beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #100

Oh, you've missed much more than that. rug Jan 2016 #101

The Church frames it as a religious war, rug and they wage it every day. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #104

They frame their position as religious doctrine. rug Jan 2016 #105

There it is! The word "religious", thanks for admitting that religion is the source. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #106

Read the post again. rug Jan 2016 #108

The Vatican's War on Women: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #109

There's the monomania again. rug Jan 2016 #110

Another uppity woman speaks: Beatriz Case Reveals Catholic Hierarchy’s War on Women beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #111

Your disregard of Pelosi suggests yorur real target here is not women's rights at all. rug Jan 2016 #112

My focus is the Church's war on women and guess who's leading the charge?: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #114

And Pelosi's focus is on keeping the laws on the books and enforced. rug Jan 2016 #116

Annie Laurie Gaylor is pretty credible, she speaks for me: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #117

That's a matter of opinion. Every pronouncement is through the lens of FFRF. rug Jan 2016 #120

You asked and I answered, my opinion is just as valid as Nancy's and counts for more than yours. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #121

Let me guess. Your opinion counts for more than mine because . . . .? rug Jan 2016 #122

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #160

More: "Thank the Catholic church for terrifying abortion restrictions in Latin America" beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #107

Rightwing Watch: The Personhood Movement: Internal Battles Go Public beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #96

More facts for you: Do Bishops Run Your Hospital? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #97

More anti-Catholic bias, this time from the ACLU: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #98

There is a very clear war on women malaise Jan 2016 #141

Yes there is, and it's escalated significantly. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #142

They won't win that one malaise Jan 2016 #143

And it's about as much of a secret hifiguy Jan 2016 #153

LOL malaise Jan 2016 #154

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Isn't that because of her virgin status? loyalsister Jan 2016 #56

mary is seen as a saint and a very special one restorefreedom Jan 2016 #74

She might outrank Joseph. Ino Jan 2016 #152

You need to go to Venus for women to play a dominant/equal role. valerief Jan 2016 #7

"When 'God' was a Woman" Donkees Jan 2016 #10

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thank you for mentioning this book. truedelphi Jan 2016 #71

"The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets" is also excellent Donkees Jan 2016 #84

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Prajnaparamita --The Perfection of Wisdom Donkees Jan 2016 #12

Yes there are female bodhisattvas (enlightened beings) in Buddhism. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2016 #81

i think so barbtries Jan 2016 #14

We went to a funeral service this morning malaise Jan 2016 #17

Most religions are about divine approval of whatever TPTB want ... eppur_se_muova Jan 2016 #19

Actually ancient religions gave women a prominent place nichomachus Jan 2016 #20

It is because most religions developed out of primitive socieities Kurska Jan 2016 #22

It's not like that in Unitarianism. nt GliderGuider Jan 2016 #23

Yes, and UUs are not Christian anymore. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2016 #65

My Church JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #75

nor in the Society of Friends. n/t eShirl Jan 2016 #126

Until this year, The Presiding Bishop of the U.S. Episcopal church was Katharine Jefferts Schori... Journeyman Jan 2016 #24

Twelve U.S. presidents have identified as being Episcopalian . . . Journeyman Jan 2016 #47

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Not every, just the loudest and most visible Rebkeh Jan 2016 #28

No. kwassa Jan 2016 #29

Well that is true but they feed each other n/t malaise Jan 2016 #36

Pretty sure you have that backwards Lordquinton Jan 2016 #45

The indigenous people would not give up their goddesses. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2016 #70

Funny thing. Look up the origins of the goddess Columbia and her importance Promethean Jan 2016 #128

and because many of the indigenous hopemountain Feb 2016 #156

I disagree kwassa Jan 2016 #72

Yep, the Romans were masters at pragmatic co-opting hifiguy Jan 2016 #87

It is because they originated in patriarchal societies. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #31

I think that's true for most institutions - the views of the dominant class prevail malaise Jan 2016 #49

And they are codified in texts considered to be hand made by God, backward norms made sacred Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #76

It does seem to be a common feature of ancient civilization treestar Jan 2016 #32

Seriously, there is a simple answer Depaysement Jan 2016 #35

Not every EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #43

It is certainly one if humanity's hifiguy Jan 2016 #46

Same here malaise Jan 2016 #50

"The bible is my favorite book of fiction" Mendocino Jan 2016 #52

Unfortunately it's the only book many persons have read malaise Jan 2016 #55

I had a co-worker who considered reading anything Mendocino Jan 2016 #63

Wow, what a narrow-minded person smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #161

Objectively speaking, that is about as profoundly hifiguy Jan 2016 #89

Yes indeed malaise Jan 2016 #136

In addition to Wicca, Unitarian Universalism does not. KamaAina Jan 2016 #53

Not all religions. Cleita Jan 2016 #59

Not arguing but that is not how the Native American women are portrayed doc03 Jan 2016 #80

"In the movies"... Curmudgeoness Jan 2016 #91

The dictionary definition of the word squaw is "an American Indian Women". Had no idea doc03 Jan 2016 #133

Movies made by men, mostly white men..... Grey Jan 2016 #92

Movies? Of course one must base all one knows about First Nations people on movies. Cleita Jan 2016 #103

Because all Abrahamic religions were started by men. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #77

But the Hindu religion is not Abrahamic malaise Jan 2016 #137

Well, hell, it BEGAN IN THE BIBLE. onecent Jan 2016 #88

TPTB are also killing the planet AKA "Mother" Nature. They really hate women. nt valerief Jan 2016 #102

Modern societies where women rule OxQQme Jan 2016 #124

This brush is so broad that it must need a crew to move it. guillaumeb Jan 2016 #127

Not all do. H2O Man Jan 2016 #129

Well, not picking on Eastern religion here just Western Rex Jan 2016 #131

I see the relegation of women to lesser roles not as a crux so much, Half-Century Man Jan 2016 #132

It's easier to justify injustice if you are guided by an invisible being whose will only you know DFW Jan 2016 #134

Profound malaise Jan 2016 #145

I wish it were posted at the Capitol and at the EPA DFW Jan 2016 #147

Quakers have never had women as other than equal. quaker bill Jan 2016 #135

Quakers were a very progressive religion particularly with the regard to the malaise Jan 2016 #139

Friends Comittee on National Legislation quaker bill Feb 2016 #157

I know about Susan B.Anthony - a great woman malaise Feb 2016 #158

Because almost every religion codifies the existing power structure. eom. Bad Thoughts Jan 2016 #144

I think it's more like the power structure adopting and adapting what suits them malaise Jan 2016 #148

Yes. It's the outward show of the crux. The crux can be ferreted out. One theory is Marilyn French's ancianita Jan 2016 #149

There are now women Buddhist monks yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #150

It's age-old Tab Jan 2016 #151

Nice post malaise Feb 2016 #163

Yes and Yes madokie Feb 2016 #162

Because every religion is copied after earlier ancient religions. B Calm Feb 2016 #164

Most of the ones that have gained and retained power were made up for that very reason. Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #165