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In reply to the discussion: Obama Breaks Promise To Veto Bill Allowing Indefinite Detention of Americans [View all]Xicano
(2,812 posts)108. Let us not deceive ourselves.....
Here's an altered version of Patrick Henry's speech.
Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this legislative array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has the government any enemy in this quarter of the world after a decade of crushing country after country who the government believed in all their profiteering wisdom constituted some phantom threat to now all of the sudden call for all this accumulation of laws, militarized police and now armies?
No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us after these latest public assemblies to petition the government with a list of grievances: they can be meant for no other. In this eve before ever greater wealth disparity between the 1% vs the 99% they are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the 1% have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last fifty years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm of feudalism which is now coming on at an ever increasing rate. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne called Washington/Wall Street, and have implored any of its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of those who have corrupted it and used it to commit acts of fraud, theft and tyranny too numerous to list. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and the reconciliation of real change we can believe in. There is no longer any room for hope.
If we wish to be free -- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending -- if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious and just object of our contest shall be obtained -- we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to all the 99% to simply sit down in solidarity and withhold all of our labor from today's feudal lords, the 1%, and withdraw all our wealth from their institutions and invest it in new ones created by and for the 99% is all that is left us!
No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us after these latest public assemblies to petition the government with a list of grievances: they can be meant for no other. In this eve before ever greater wealth disparity between the 1% vs the 99% they are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the 1% have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last fifty years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm of feudalism which is now coming on at an ever increasing rate. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne called Washington/Wall Street, and have implored any of its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of those who have corrupted it and used it to commit acts of fraud, theft and tyranny too numerous to list. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and the reconciliation of real change we can believe in. There is no longer any room for hope.
If we wish to be free -- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending -- if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious and just object of our contest shall be obtained -- we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to all the 99% to simply sit down in solidarity and withhold all of our labor from today's feudal lords, the 1%, and withdraw all our wealth from their institutions and invest it in new ones created by and for the 99% is all that is left us!
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Obama Breaks Promise To Veto Bill Allowing Indefinite Detention of Americans [View all]
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
OP
Kindly take your anti-Obama BS over to freepland where it belongs. We're not buying crazy here.
RBInMaine
Dec 2011
#111
I have to put you on ignore due to your personal attack against a DU'er.
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#137
They are not exempt. Why do you think Human Rights Watch and the ACLU are wrong and you are right?
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#11
They are exempt if you would read the actual bill instead of someone spinning it for you
SunsetDreams
Dec 2011
#14
"Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities..."
bhikkhu
Dec 2011
#22
How do you make plans to end a war on a tactic old as civilization and utilized by virtually
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#97
The ACLU and Human Rights Watch are always pushing that civil liberties crapola stuff!
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#33
When did the President promise to give Al Queada a break and not interfere with them in the US?
Capn Sunshine
Dec 2011
#9
No, he signed a bill formalizing the pre-existing "military [...] power to [...] detain Americans".
boppers
Dec 2011
#24
Actually, there have been countless defenses of this administration policies ...
jefferson_dem
Dec 2011
#121
In The Senate bill Sections 1031/1032. In The House bill: Sections 1021/1022, then ...
Tx4obama
Dec 2011
#59
Believe it or not, I have read the entire final bill and find nothing that alters 1021(e)
PSPS
Dec 2011
#34
The exemption is STILL in there, read Sections 1021 and 1022 in the link below
Tx4obama
Dec 2011
#54
Plus one aspect alot of people arent looking at is with this law on the books its bound to be
cstanleytech
Dec 2011
#47
So we should trust you for the facts rather than the ACLU and Human Rights Watch?
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#65
"Do you mislead through ignorance or deliberation?" The answer is No and you're now on ignore.
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#107
Turley: This leave Ron Paul as the only candidate in the presidential campaign
ProSense
Dec 2011
#66
Yes. And I take it you support indefinite detention of Americans by the military ....
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#76
Since you are opposed to indefinite detention I take that to mean you think Obama
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#122
Did you say that the courts found in favor of Padilla and Hamdi? Dont agree. nm
rhett o rick
Dec 2011
#82
Sounds very thoughtful...I'll leave it to the Citizens United, Bush v Gore, Bush junta affirming
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#99
Politicians consider promises (and the truth) to be conveniently flexible and open to "change".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2011
#92
So was it "hyprbolic bullshit from the whacko purist pulpit" when folks argued against Bush signing
Xicano
Dec 2011
#120
Understand clearly there are people on this board with an agenda against the President.
vaberella
Dec 2011
#130