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davidthegnome

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146. I don't get it.

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 04:59 PM

Mar 2016

When someone rather heavily betrays her party and most of it's members by supporting the payday loan industry and attempting to gut financial regulations... that is not progressive. Supporting wealthy special interest groups is not progressive. The colossal failure of the DNC over the last several years, I think, has a lot to do with the fact that it is not a progressive institution anymore, if it ever was.

I don't know about "our" party, in this regard, Mr. President. People who want to destroy financial regulations and support corrupt, predatory money lending companies are definitely not part of the party I believe in. Not sure what's democratic about that, not sure what's progressive about it. It would be one thing if she had lead the DNC to victories as opposed to defeats, to the promotion of progressive policies... to protecting the consumer. The thing is, I can't remember ever hearing much about her at all - until she started working against the left - and, thanks to actual progressives, that got some spotlight.

I strongly condemn the notion that Dear Sweet Debbie should be chair of the DNC - I am strongly confused as to why the President thinks she's progressive.

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The definition of "progressive" must have been revised ... [View all] Scuba Mar 2016 OP

Holy shit onecaliberal Mar 2016 #1

Pathetic. enlightenment Mar 2016 #2

Thank you Pres. Obama. Love that your favoribility continues upwards. riversedge Mar 2016 #3

Big fan of payday loan companies then? tkmorris Mar 2016 #7

Maybe losing the Senate, House and half the states is "progressive" to some. Scuba Mar 2016 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #22

I'm confused by your post. Did you mean to reply to another post? Scuba Mar 2016 #26

Mispost. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #36

"shameful, outright lies from the POTUS" ?? SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #52

Lying should be exposed regardless of the party affiliation of the liar. Scuba Mar 2016 #56

Putting country before party is patriotism. SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #132

Thank you ... Scuba Mar 2016 #136

You are so welcome. nt SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #145

Thank you. 840high Mar 2016 #169

+1BILLION JackInGreen Mar 2016 #207

Amen! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2016 #167

Here here Gman Mar 2016 #72

Supporting Pay Dan Loan Sharks, the lowest of the low, is not something a real Democrat rhett o rick Mar 2016 #157

To that end, it's probably better if Obama doesn't start to wedge the party in half... Gore1FL Mar 2016 #109

DWS is a prolific fund raiser. That's her value and kristopher Mar 2016 #171

She loses despite that fundraising. Gore1FL Mar 2016 #183

By the common definition of political power and success she is a disaster kristopher Mar 2016 #187

It shouldn't be. If that is her priority she should resign. Gore1FL Mar 2016 #211

She hasn't raised any money from me, Volaris Mar 2016 #197

yep tiredtoo Mar 2016 #227

So you are saying that if someone here on this "politically liberal" message board doesn't rhett o rick Mar 2016 #155

Righteous rant Rick! Scuba Mar 2016 #179

+ A Million DJ13 Mar 2016 #181

+1,000. HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #47

Maybe if we campaigned on progressive values, instead of GOP-light, we wouldn't lose so much. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #108

Well, 2/3 of the electorate doesn't bother to vote. What does that tell you? Scuba Mar 2016 #110

It tells me that they are completely fed up with the status quo. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #122

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!! Scuba Mar 2016 #134

Exactly! I know many that just don't care about the democrats or republicans. In their book they RKP5637 Mar 2016 #152

The following comparison is found controversial, but I'll repeat it anyway: Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #198

Exactly what is going on! Just about anyone you talk to is totally fed up with the political RKP5637 Mar 2016 #212

Paul Weyrich Strategy the DLC adopted is working wonders for them! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #162

sad but true. navarth Mar 2016 #191

Why do you support DWS? nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2016 #11

You support DWS And you want us to support Hillary? Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #19

Yes, I do. beastie boy Mar 2016 #38

Yes. Hillary would be way ahead with fun n serious Mar 2016 #57

You mean a more rightward leaning DNC chair? GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #88

No, I clearly meant a more competent DNC chair. beastie boy Mar 2016 #139

Lol..DWS is in Hillary's pocket. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #166

How much do you pay Plucketeer Mar 2016 #33

a lot of people rely on those payday lenders saturnsring Mar 2016 #66

So you're saying Plucketeer Mar 2016 #69

magic sanders is gonna make that happen all on his own? saturnsring Mar 2016 #117

The "alternative" won't even try. Plucketeer Mar 2016 #131

like the gop trying time after time to vote the aca out of existence, nothing ridiculous about that saturnsring Mar 2016 #133

Well, let's do this then Plucketeer Mar 2016 #140

Are you really comparing ending the ACA to ending legal usury? Gore1FL Mar 2016 #184

no i am not, i am comparing what that poster said to the gop voting on the aca saturnsring Mar 2016 #186

The two are not remotely equal. The analogy is embarrassingly laughable. Gore1FL Mar 2016 #210

it isnt my fault youre unable to understand it saturnsring Mar 2016 #215

There is nothing to understand Gore1FL Mar 2016 #221

No. He has asked repeatedly for Americans AllyCat Mar 2016 #204

The idea is that they would be able to get the same service from the USPS KamaAina Mar 2016 #94

You're defending an industry whose sole purpose is to prey on the poor. SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #150

Well im not trying to defend them im merely stating that people, like you apparantly, need saturnsring Mar 2016 #156

They exploit those in need regardless of your poor rationalization. And it's a right rhett o rick Mar 2016 #158

the truth is not right wing - these stores go to where the need is and saturnsring Mar 2016 #161

Yes. They are forced redixdoragon Mar 2016 #199

Oh yes they ARE forced to use them. SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #224

yes they are - if they are the lenders of last resort and you are forced to use them where would you saturnsring Mar 2016 #225

I'm not following. SusanaMontana41 Apr 2016 #228

Love that your favoribility continues upwards. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #35

and Sanders UNfavorability is on an UPward trend. riversedge Mar 2016 #44

and Sanders UNfavorability is on an UPward trend. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #49

Primaries left: 17 Caucuses left: 2 riversedge Mar 2016 #121

You're predicting the future which hasn't happened AlbertCat Mar 2016 #130

Do you support the exploitation of the poor by Pay Day Loan Sharks. Rhetorical, don't bother rhett o rick Mar 2016 #159

So you like pay-day loan sharks I take it? Odin2005 Mar 2016 #142

When I see something like that I think rurallib Mar 2016 #4

Exactly,, or.. pangaia Mar 2016 #9

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but this is what I have been thinking for a long time. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #41

The Obama you voted for wasn't the Obama he claimed to be. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #60

Some of both, I would suspect. pangaia Mar 2016 #71

I love the campaigning Obama rurallib Mar 2016 #129

He is not that's for sure. 840high Mar 2016 #170

Who is that has said when a new president is elected dflprincess Mar 2016 #194

No, Obama has only one remaining goal to tie to his legacy Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #113

i guess you can't help all the people all of the time...or some such bullshit... islandmkl Mar 2016 #5

I voted for him twice OriginalGeek Mar 2016 #6

Right?!? I had the same reaction. Bubzer Mar 2016 #28

ditto AlbertCat Mar 2016 #37

Same here... freebrew Mar 2016 #77

I voted for him once. I voted for a real progressive, Rocky Anderson, in 2012. virgista Mar 2016 #192

That is one more indicator where the DNC is headed..thanks for the heads up. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #10

Just donated $25 to Canova... mudstump Mar 2016 #68

Thank you so much. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #90

Nah, just more DC bullshit and backscratching... TreasonousBastard Mar 2016 #12

Yes indeed. He needs the TPP. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #115

That's the best explanation I've seen. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #149

It's as if there's a big pile of shit in DC that no one wants to disturb. Gregorian Mar 2016 #13

"If you don't have a few dimes to send to her campaign," IDemo Mar 2016 #14

Thread winner. geardaddy Mar 2016 #21

Hahahaha pengu Mar 2016 #23

Ha! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #61

Don't give them serious fundraising fodder for their next mailing! Person 2713 Mar 2016 #180

"Follow the money"applies here. floriduck Mar 2016 #15

According to some here "progressive" means being willing to sell out your principles hobbit709 Mar 2016 #16

Incestuous flim flammery .... Trajan Mar 2016 #17

Blech. Pay Day Debbie hopefully will be leaving her post soon nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #18

Al From deliberately messed with the definition of "progressive." merrily Mar 2016 #20

Go Tim!!!!! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #24

Donating to Tim today. (again) nt Duval Mar 2016 #124

Notice President Obama says "middle class families". And stops. cer7711 Mar 2016 #25

I am not sure Old Codger Mar 2016 #27

Fifty years ago, sometimes an R was better than a D Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #173

Well, the president is a moderate and the center has been careening right for decades now. nt valerief Mar 2016 #29

It can not be repeated enough. SamKnause Mar 2016 #30

Remember Arlen Specter? dirtydickcheney Mar 2016 #31

There is one instance where policy and principles mean nothing beastie boy Mar 2016 #48

heck, Joe Lieberman! run AGAINST the Democrat and the DNC'll send Obama right over MisterP Mar 2016 #100

And then there was Blanche Lincoln beltanefauve Mar 2016 #125

Who is this "Debbie" they're talking about? TygrBright Mar 2016 #32

Progressive maybe but not liberal PatrynXX Mar 2016 #34

There seem to be two definitions now. HassleCat Mar 2016 #39

Like we're shocked or something SHRED Mar 2016 #40

A Progressive for the Payday Loan Industry!!! Billsmile Mar 2016 #42

see why i never voted until now? retrowire Mar 2016 #43

so then the questions arise hfojvt Mar 2016 #45

This new hatching of Neo-Progressives Cryptoad Mar 2016 #46

And this is pretty much the answer to the "Change has to come from the ground up!" complaints. JoeyT Mar 2016 #50

If by hardworking he means working hard LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #51

If she's a progressive, a right-leaning Democrat must be half a Nazi. Vinca Mar 2016 #53

yes Reaganite is the new progressive. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #54

It's official TrueDemVA Mar 2016 #55

True... true... Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #188

Indeed, the definition of progressive has been redefined Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #58

oh FFS!!!! Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #59

Progressive...................... turbinetree Mar 2016 #62

So They Got To Obama? billhicks76 Mar 2016 #63

No surprise here..Obama is not liberal... mudstump Mar 2016 #64

Ding ding ding DebbieCDC Mar 2016 #176

Say it ain't so O? EndElectoral Mar 2016 #65

“Debbie has been a strong, progressive leader" arcane1 Mar 2016 #67

No lies. Gman Mar 2016 #70

She supported Republicans over progressive Dems and is backing the payday loan industry. Scuba Mar 2016 #74

I don't know what kind of hazy vague scenario you are referring to Gman Mar 2016 #75

Nothing hazy or vague about it ... Scuba Mar 2016 #82

Those three will not lose in the GE so why piss them off Gman Mar 2016 #208

They certainly won't lose when they're supported by both parties, that's for sure. Scuba Mar 2016 #209

Maybe? That's wishful thinking Gman Mar 2016 #220

You're right. We should never try to be anything but Republican-lite, anywhere. Scuba Mar 2016 #222

your definition of 'great' rivals your understanding of 'progressive'... islandmkl Mar 2016 #92

I don't really care what progressive means Gman Mar 2016 #106

i have plenty of tools in my toolbox...you are not one that I need... islandmkl Mar 2016 #178

What do you care about? Just Hillary? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #189

The definition of "great DNC chair" must have also changed . . . markpkessinger Mar 2016 #168

I can't believe this Barach Obama today is the same Barach Obama I voted for in 2008. DrBulldog Mar 2016 #73

Just curious, which part(s) of his endorsement do you consider to be lies? beastie boy Mar 2016 #76

These parts ... Scuba Mar 2016 #95

That would be a matter of opinion, no? beastie boy Mar 2016 #137

No, it is not merely an opinion that payday loans and backing Republicans are not progressive. Scuba Mar 2016 #138

But it is a matter of opinion, and not necessarily a well founded one that this policy defines beastie boy Mar 2016 #147

Black is white, up is down, wet is dry and payday loans are progressive. Got it. Scuba Mar 2016 #153

I will assume you didn't read the post you are replying to. beastie boy Mar 2016 #213

Perhaps you'd like to provide some evidence of Debbie's progressive actions to counterbalance ... Scuba Mar 2016 #214

Ok, if you insist... beastie boy Mar 2016 #216

Not only does her congressional record not counterbalance my list, it adds to it ... Scuba Mar 2016 #217

You can't be serious... beastie boy Mar 2016 #218

I'm still waiting for you to cite even one progressive thing she's ever done. Just one. Scuba Mar 2016 #219

That's one policy. Hardly enough to call Obama a liar on. beastie boy Mar 2016 #143

Cant stand DWS, but I see the Obama hatred is alive and well at Democratic Underground Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #78

Seriously, you can't stand DWS, but are OK with anyone calling her a "Progressive"? How? highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #80

Hatred of Obama, alive and well Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #81

If repeating things to yourself makes it feel better, stick with that. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #89

nay, not hate here, wendylaroux Mar 2016 #84

+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #118

Disappointment is what you see, sweetie, not hatred. Punkingal Mar 2016 #127

Progressively More Corrupt. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #79

If I've said it once, I've said it 1,000 times. lark Mar 2016 #83

Well that's bullshit. GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #85

Not surprising, I've been disenchanted with his decisions Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #86

He's lost his shit. Power indeed corrupts. Sad. ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #87

gee..Mr. TPP endorses DWS. Im shocked! BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #91

Sickening - Just Sickening cantbeserious Mar 2016 #93

Progressive now means moving in ANY direction. basselope Mar 2016 #96

Being called progressive gets a lot of votes felix_numinous Mar 2016 #97

He didn't need to go down to her level. Clearly he approves of everrything she has done. JimDandy Mar 2016 #98

11 Governors, 13 Senators, 69 Reps, 913 state seats, and left with 26% of the electorate MisterP Mar 2016 #99

Hard to refute. Scuba Mar 2016 #101

"uh, well it's the voters' fault: they didn't vote for us! QED!" MisterP Mar 2016 #102

All I know is that she needs to be replaced. Rex Mar 2016 #103

That entire statement is almost entirely Grade-A bullshit... truebrit71 Mar 2016 #104

At least on all economic issues, he's a Republican and so is she. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #105

Corporatists gotta stick together. n/t Cheap_Trick Mar 2016 #107

Does the POTUS think we're stupid? d_legendary1 Mar 2016 #111

Does the POTUS think we're stupid? DJ13 Mar 2016 #182

She ran unopposed in 2006 d_legendary1 Mar 2016 #223

Maybe there should be a pop quiz that ALL Politicians take on the English language. glinda Mar 2016 #112

Obama lays another one. jalan48 Mar 2016 #114

President Obama`s comment is laughable. democrank Mar 2016 #116

More proof that we need a POLITICAL REVOLUTION! Z_California Mar 2016 #119

You were expecting PBO to shove her under the bus? Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #120

One can only hope. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #135

Of course he supports her. He made her Chairwoman of the Party. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #123

Maybe it's time to drop "progressive" and go back to liberal fbc Mar 2016 #126

Debbie Wasneverwith-Us. nt alp227 Mar 2016 #128

I gagged. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #141

Mind numbing c-ville rook Mar 2016 #144

I don't get it. davidthegnome Mar 2016 #146

For me, "progressive" means moderate Reep. ananda Mar 2016 #148

... RKP5637 Mar 2016 #151

I'm very sad about this endorsement... blackspade Mar 2016 #154

This exemplifies the split in our Party. Obama, Clinton, Debbie DINO, Lieberman, etc. do rhett o rick Mar 2016 #160

This from the "progressive" who appointed Rahm as his Chief of Staff... hay rick Mar 2016 #163

Debbie Wasserman Schultz is detrimental to the Democratic Party. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #164

Gag me... Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #165

Obama is just securing his lifetime membership to "the club". Just like the Clintons who became FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #172

Did he really say that? Thespian2 Mar 2016 #174

He put it in writing. Scuba Mar 2016 #175

That is disturbing, very disturbing... Thespian2 Mar 2016 #177

That's the last straw for me. Disgusting! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #185

Why is anyone surprised by this? ibegurpard Mar 2016 #190

+ around 2 or 3 billion nationalize the fed Mar 2016 #201

+ Eighty gazillion ... Woo is sorely missed here. Scuba Mar 2016 #203

Tragic. Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #193

How can anyone be suprised? TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #195

Really disappointing.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #196

whoa. what is next? hopemountain Mar 2016 #200

Disgusting... ReRe Mar 2016 #202

It's another Rovian ploy. The Rs demonized our terms and the DLC usurps them. Both distort. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #205

It's been revised, turned on it's head, broken, glued back together, gift wrapped JackInGreen Mar 2016 #206

We know that only Bernie Sanders and his supporters get to decide who is "progressive." Renew Deal Mar 2016 #226