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232. I've met Mr. West, read much of his writing, and . .

Tue May 24, 2016, 03:45 PM

May 2016

admired him for many years. He walks the walk as a fierce
progressive (OK, leftist), and has for a long time.

The idea that West opposes Obama because of hurt feelings or
petty jealousy is beyond stupid - as are nearly all arguments
based on what is in someone's mind or heart. How in hell do any of
you know what his thoughts are? Answer: you don't.

But West did use inappropriate language (at least once) to make his
points, which is ironic since he is such a master of the English language.

I think he should apologize, but that is just my opinion. I'll admire and
respect him no matter what.

So tell me, oh ideology police, am I supposed to hate Obama because of the
really stupid remark he made about Chelsea Manning before her trial (that,
".. he broke the law&quot ?

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Why all the hate towards Cornell West? [View all] jpmonk91 May 2016 OP

Actually like West and enjoy listening to him. But, I think he doesn't like Obama Hoyt May 2016 #1

But jpmonk91 May 2016 #6

You might not but many do. Egnever May 2016 #14

When jpmonk91 May 2016 #15

Moslty right after Obama was elected Egnever May 2016 #17

Because he picked neoliberal financial people like Larry Summers and Tim Geithner for starters Ned_Devine May 2016 #44

You can give reasons all you want Egnever May 2016 #47

he's for single payer which works. Baobab May 2016 #112

So what? Egnever May 2016 #116

Correct...his attitude towards Obama Perseus May 2016 #140

Exactly! Egnever May 2016 #142

Ultimately West like many of us is disappointed in Obama ...... raindaddy May 2016 #186

No he did not run as a progressive Egnever May 2016 #195

When Obama promised to... raindaddy May 2016 #283

He isn't king Egnever May 2016 #289

Transparent is just another word for useless jpmonk91 May 2016 #302

I think that comment says pretty much everything about your stance on this subject Egnever May 2016 #309

Well it's because jpmonk91 May 2016 #315

You just said he never campaigned as a liberal... raindaddy May 2016 #313

+1 frankieallen May 2016 #301

No, he was not at all clear about who he was. I voted for him because he was NEW-- Peace Patriot May 2016 #320

thank you- Baobab May 2016 #214

I have no issue with people dissagreeing Egnever May 2016 #263

Results... Major Nikon May 2016 #208

Guess the alerter doesn't think much of Cornel's phrasing either.. Egnever May 2016 #215

It was me, and I apologize, I realized right after I didit that it was a mistake. Baobab May 2016 #228

No problem Egnever May 2016 #274

Bad choice of words, I agree with that. Need for carve outs. Baobab May 2016 #275

Not sure exactly what you mean by carve outs Egnever May 2016 #281

Peace! Baobab May 2016 #284

So they don't like him because zeemike May 2016 #117

LOL Egnever May 2016 #120

That is a POV...Opinion. zeemike May 2016 #124

And in my opinion and that of many others it is offensive Egnever May 2016 #130

Same reason they hate Susan Sarandon melman May 2016 #376

So you don't like him because? KPN May 2016 #156

Just one of many repulsive comments he has made Egnever May 2016 #167

Whatever the hell it means, it does sound like there's some KPN May 2016 #307

Thanks Egnever May 2016 #312

Ah. Understandable. KPN May 2016 #368

Nope no problem with Bernie at all Egnever May 2016 #369

I'm with you on that. Fully. Thanks. JDPriestly May 2016 #113

The Libya attack was absolute madness.......... DemMomma4Sanders May 2016 #145

Do some research, for God's sake. brush May 2016 #56

No. He doesn't like Obama because Obama sold out. Octafish May 2016 #21

Except that Obama didn't pose as a progressive. TwilightZone May 2016 #28

This a million times this ^^^^^ Egnever May 2016 #50

and a lot of people don't like Clinton and would rather see anyone in the White House than Hiraeth May 2016 #103

I have zero problem with that Egnever May 2016 #107

I didin't call him that and guess what you are nasty and welcome to ignore. Hiraeth May 2016 #108

Nope Cornel did Egnever May 2016 #122

that is mercuryblues May 2016 #277

re: "He has governed exactly as he said he would." thesquanderer May 2016 #199

Of course you did Egnever May 2016 #209

Those were promises that never happened BuelahWitch May 2016 #251

Well one could argue it is part of the TPP Egnever May 2016 #270

No, it is not an amendment to NAFTA. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #435

No you are right it is not an amendment to nafta Egnever May 2016 #439

Easy to see why you love revisionist history. Octafish May 2016 #65

Your proof is one Q & A and a link to TARP? TwilightZone May 2016 #68

I agree that was pretty funny! zappaman May 2016 #70

zappaman! Octafish May 2016 #79

Dude! zappaman May 2016 #94

Compared to your word it is. Octafish May 2016 #77

At least it shows he did some research BuelahWitch May 2016 #262

A-friggin'-men! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #73

health care plan Baobab May 2016 #242

Obama didn't pose as progressive? countryrose May 2016 #491

Obama not only didnt sell out, but spoiled, privileged Americans who attack him are gonna miss him Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #32

No he sold out jpmonk91 May 2016 #49

You arent actually interested in that answer. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #51

What does this jpmonk91 May 2016 #54

Obama is supposed to arrest and convict them? Didnt you say here or somewhere Obama is a sellout Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #64

The perpetually angry won't become less so with facts ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #86

Yes. Most who are angry dont really have the first clue how great Obama has been. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #99

Fantastic posts from you in this thread. Not that they will make ONE BIT OF DIFFERENCE Number23 May 2016 #467

Thank you, it is embarrassing to see how little people really know about Obama and what Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #470

Bravo! JustAnotherGen May 2016 #285

Thanks...Obama has been so successful in so many ways, but the Obama haters Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #286

He let Detroit go bankrupt and is letting Puerto Rico go bankrupt. Octafish May 2016 #76

Uh huh - There is more, I can keep going.... Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #81

Great. But Obama let Bush and Cheney, and ALL the Warmongers, Spies & Banksters, go free. Octafish May 2016 #102

First, YOU wouldnt have the guts to go after those guys, trust me. If all you have is this Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #105

Thank you! Digital Puppy May 2016 #119

Never saw that.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #175

Technically he didn't sell out he always tried to have it both ways and make race a nonissue. craigmatic May 2016 #345

Jackie . . FairWinds May 2016 #206

What do you think the TPP is? Egnever May 2016 #217

The TPP is more of the same corporatist crap . . FairWinds May 2016 #247

So because you don't agree with it it is not a renegotiation? Egnever May 2016 #272

There are many reasons it is not a negotiation OrwellwasRight May 2016 #346

Simply sit next to it is misleading Egnever May 2016 #372

Your post is misleading. OrwellwasRight May 2016 #392

Well that was a mouthful of pretty insults with not much substance. Egnever May 2016 #444

The substance is absolutely there OrwellwasRight May 2016 #466

Isn't someone allowed to not like Obama? OrwellwasRight May 2016 #332

I don't like everything about Obama, either-- snot May 2016 #377

Absolutely not perfect Egnever May 2016 #378

They should all read his book Democracy Matters mikeysnot May 2016 #2

Because of the disgusting ways he's talked about Obama. CrowCityDem May 2016 #3

Freedom of speech jpmonk91 May 2016 #8

Yeah, he can say it. And I can hate him for it. CrowCityDem May 2016 #10

I have negative feelings for him because of Obama as well. Greybnk48 May 2016 #12

I don't have to like him to suit Bernie supporters leftofcool May 2016 #18

I'm not saying you have to like him for Bernie supporters jpmonk91 May 2016 #25

I'm not saying you have to like him for Bernie supporters AlbertCat May 2016 #55

"Out of all of West's life, his single act of criticizing Obama makes him impure now" PragmaticLiberal May 2016 #229

they don't believe it's purely motivated by politics. AlbertCat May 2016 #300

This message was self-deleted by its author PragmaticLiberal May 2016 #308

So, sheshe2 May 2016 #67

Wait....whoa Stuckinthebush May 2016 #71

I believe in racial equality and I think he's wrong about Pres. Obama. shenmue May 2016 #188

What in the WORLD does freedom of speech have to do with this conversation? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #35

Not a damn thing Stuckinthebush May 2016 #72

+1, calling Obama niggerized' is just free speech now on DU uponit7771 May 2016 #110

I have the freedom to say what ever I want jpmonk91 May 2016 #299

You are confused about where freedom of speech arguments belong and dont Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #310

Does that same right apply to criticism of individuals? LanternWaste May 2016 #41

West is free to express his opinion and we are free to think that he is an idiot Gothmog May 2016 #66

yes, and it also affords us the right to discuss cornell well critically. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #90

he can say what he wants Skittles May 2016 #336

He's perfect for Bernie. Sore Losers Squad Assemble! nt onehandle May 2016 #4

Sore losers Squad? mikeysnot May 2016 #20

Obama hated Blumenthal and blacklisted him. Yet Hillary Clinton used him as a source polly7 May 2016 #45

Nailed it! nt Duval May 2016 #92

Hahahahaha! Nailed it. brush May 2016 #60

He has a history of dumping on President Obama. Skinner May 2016 #5

I believe he is more dissapointed than a hater. mikeysnot May 2016 #19

+1! Enthusiast May 2016 #211

Democratic Party Loyalty > Human Rights. [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #7

If that is the case jpmonk91 May 2016 #11

The reason people don't like him is because he spoke truth to power, Maedhros May 2016 #38

It appears to be the case. Enthusiast May 2016 #213

Ladies & gentlemen.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #137

It's because of what he says scscholar May 2016 #9

Yeah ... There is a contingent of DUers Trajan May 2016 #13

There is a common misconception that "Liberal" means only "Not Republican." Maedhros May 2016 #40

One can still be a liberal and take issue with calling Barack Obama the "first niggerized President" TwilightZone May 2016 #52

He's perfect for Bernie and Bernie can keep him. leftofcool May 2016 #16

He's intelligent, educated, perceptive, compassionate, Zorra May 2016 #22

Thank you jpmonk91 May 2016 #24

I understand. Don't let the name of this forum fool you. Zorra May 2016 #36

And just as much dislike for West too. brush May 2016 #62

That's not true. In fact, it's ludicrous. I'd ask for evidence, Zorra May 2016 #135

You don't know what you're talking about. brush May 2016 #179

I feel like the jpmonk91 May 2016 #316

That would be correct Enthusiast May 2016 #216

Wow this is disgusting jpmonk91 May 2016 #23

Well, that is a long and sad story. It started back in the early 1990s. Many of us were taken in.... Enthusiast May 2016 #218

We were indeed, by the triangulation tango and WJC-HRC, Inc. GoneOffShore May 2016 #290

Great song, thanks GoneOffShore saidsimplesimon May 2016 #356

What (other than irrational biases) specifically leads you to believe that criticism LanternWaste May 2016 #26

He is a champion of racial equality jpmonk91 May 2016 #29

That's merely a response rather than an answer LanternWaste May 2016 #37

He became hateful in recent years, elleng May 2016 #27

I haven't seen that jpmonk91 May 2016 #33

All criticism of Obama (or Hillary) is "hate" [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #42

Seems to be that way recently. nt Duval May 2016 #97

Some people forget this truth. Enthusiast May 2016 #221

Because he's an abrasive jerk with nothing valuable left to say. (nt) Paladin May 2016 #30

I value what he says. I value it greatly. Enthusiast May 2016 #225

Suits me. (nt) Paladin May 2016 #314

he'd rather stand up than kneel: simple as that MisterP May 2016 #31

I haven't seen that JustAnotherGen May 2016 #34

Because he's not with Team Hillary. Gene Debs May 2016 #39

And we are so glad! leftofcool May 2016 #63

More, because he's for Bernie, truth be told. SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #129

If you think this all started with Bernie you haven't been paying attention to Cornel Egnever May 2016 #138

Oh, definitely not. Dr. West was not shy about voicing his disappointment with Obama's Gene Debs May 2016 #161

That is your perogative Egnever May 2016 #170

My guess is... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #43

Because he's been a blowhard forever and is in love with the sound of his own voice? Hekate May 2016 #46

Who in politics isn't? Ed Suspicious May 2016 #53

Does that mean you love all politicians? Egnever May 2016 #57

You're just calling names. Enthusiast May 2016 #230

You're just too cute by half. I say "blowhard", Brother West says "niggerized" Hekate May 2016 #246

That is a debate we cannot have. Enthusiast May 2016 #253

I personally would have liked another choice, because I feel the pain and the hatred due to his highprincipleswork May 2016 #48

I have to say Cornel West is the most caring and understanding person I have ever met fasttense May 2016 #61

He's an actual progressive, and conservative trolls hate that in a person n/t arcane1 May 2016 #58

Yea cause progressives say stuff like this Egnever May 2016 #84

I didn't realize we all had to worship Obama. Silly me. arcane1 May 2016 #87

LOL Egnever May 2016 #91

The mental gymnastics are amazing indeed. arcane1 May 2016 #95

Ahhhh, that word, "worship" ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #324

Frankly, as far as foul opinions about persons like Obama go .... Trajan May 2016 #352

Nope Egnever May 2016 #370

Your dad as well as brother West thank you. mmonk May 2016 #59

Here's a start for me Egnever May 2016 #69

So you're to obsessed with obama jpmonk91 May 2016 #75

It's all an act n/t arcane1 May 2016 #88

Yea that's it Egnever May 2016 #89

He's criticized a few corporate Democrats for being corporate Democrats. Marr May 2016 #74

Agree 100% jpmonk91 May 2016 #78

That is... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #83

Because Obama and Hillary. nt OnyxCollie May 2016 #80

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #82

Cornell West isn't a Democrat. TwilightZone May 2016 #101

very easily. one person doesn't make a movement. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #85

You just worship Obama Egnever May 2016 #96

i don't worship him, but i do respect him and his presidency. I don't think an academic really La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #98

Agreed Egnever May 2016 #100

You're right jpmonk91 May 2016 #132

the biggest insult to the AA community LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #134

i didn't say that though. you took something i said and reinterpreted it to fit your narrative. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #212

"not respectful" LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #279

+1 Hekate May 2016 #152

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #388

Who is the they who throw out their thinkers ? La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #393

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #395

i am a fan Mira May 2016 #93

Right on! Enthusiast May 2016 #235

Because he's a jerk nini May 2016 #104

It's not because he is black jpmonk91 May 2016 #118

You're just calling names. Enthusiast May 2016 #236

at the risk of sounding divisive: I think he was targeted for being the blackest of Sanders picks. Betty Karlson May 2016 #106

When your whole decision process is colored by the primary Egnever May 2016 #114

After reading all the hate jpmonk91 May 2016 #125

People in the AA group here at DU were criticizing him for ages before this primary season gollygee May 2016 #169

Prior to 2007? Capt. Obvious May 2016 #443

Prior to Bernie Sander's presidential candidacy. N/t gollygee May 2016 #447

Only racist dumb ass's think Super Predator is exclusive to PoC uponit7771 May 2016 #200

I think we all know that back in the 90-ies, the majority of the targets of that slur were PoC. Betty Karlson May 2016 #287

Yes we knew. 840high May 2016 #361

You mean the guy who called Obama "niggerized" last year?!?!? A better question is why all the love? uponit7771 May 2016 #109

what does that even mean? wendylaroux May 2016 #128

Something vile and unbecoming but somehow people ask why the hate for this vile asshole... uponit7771 May 2016 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #391

Because Sanders likes him. AllyCat May 2016 #111

Yeap, Sanders "likes" a guy who called Obama niggerized last year and has him stump in front uponit7771 May 2016 #158

Because he says over the top, stupid shit like praising Trump as "authentic": SunSeeker May 2016 #115

Thanks a lot for taking jpmonk91 May 2016 #123

I showed the WHOLE TWEET. I didn't take anything "out of context." SunSeeker May 2016 #288

He is saying that jpmonk91 May 2016 #292

That is not what he said. I quoted him about "Brother Trump." SunSeeker May 2016 #306

West is a Progressive/Radical. Obama is a conservative Democrat. jalan48 May 2016 #121

Because he criticized Obama once AgingAmerican May 2016 #126

Calling Obama "niggerized" is a tad bit more than "criticized" but of course Sanders camp likes him uponit7771 May 2016 #133

So what? AgingAmerican May 2016 #141

Calling Obama "niggerized' = so what?! REALLY!?!... ok, bookmarked, screen printed and saved uponit7771 May 2016 #148

Yes, and he stated exactly what that means AgingAmerican May 2016 #157

which is bullshit on a stick since it's false on its face, there's no narrative to fit. West is an.. uponit7771 May 2016 #159

He explained exactly what it means AgingAmerican May 2016 #162

His explanation was bullshit Egnever May 2016 #176

His explanation was spot on AgingAmerican May 2016 #181

More nonsense Egnever May 2016 #185

Cornel was talking about the issues of TODAY AgingAmerican May 2016 #205

WTF that speach was all about Ferguson and the shootings at the black church Egnever May 2016 #219

He is/was quite specific on the subject AgingAmerican May 2016 #223

Yea ok Egnever May 2016 #226

bullshit, Obama spoke on race and racial supremecy before he was elected. West is an asshole uponit7771 May 2016 #233

Before and after are two entirely different things AgingAmerican May 2016 #234

we agree, MUCH MUCH MUCH harder to talk about it BEFORE upcoming election than after but West uponit7771 May 2016 #238

You can keep moving the goal posts, but... AgingAmerican May 2016 #241

Don't bother. The poster you're replying to insists that the N-word isn't even a slur. TwilightZone May 2016 #256

Huge +1! Enthusiast May 2016 #244

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #191

Please stop calling Brother West names like that. Many of us like Brother West very much. Enthusiast May 2016 #243

Fuck Cornell West and the horse he road in on. Calling Obama some form of nigger isn't progressive uponit7771 May 2016 #252

Does the "Brother West" bullshit annoy you as much as it does me? Number23 May 2016 #468

Yes, ... yes it does... West "shines" in front of white people calling Obama as many vile names uponit7771 May 2016 #476

TY for archiving some of DU's riper historical moments Hekate May 2016 #168

They'll swear up and down none of this happened... racially it seems like we're taking a step uponit7771 May 2016 #177

I think it is just primary madness Egnever May 2016 #182

That's tru, but when made aware they talk about free speech & shit, some people have to check their uponit7771 May 2016 #184

That I agree with completely Egnever May 2016 #190

Back when all this started ismnotwasm May 2016 #183

+1, they'll gas light the shit out of threads like this and act like they don't exist uponit7771 May 2016 #189

It was his word, none of us would have said it that way. Ken Burch May 2016 #333

Calling anyone any form of nigger is inappropriate not matter what the "natter" was. The bigger issu uponit7771 May 2016 #334

I DON'T approve of the use of the word. It's nothing I ever would have said. Ken Burch May 2016 #335

Can't speak for Uponit Egnever May 2016 #380

You're right, I am protective of Bernie. I'll cop to being oversensitive on that. Ken Burch May 2016 #384

I agree completely Egnever May 2016 #385

This is a really positive exchange we're having here. Ken Burch May 2016 #386

He can be all that and NOT label the president some form of nigger (er inflection) either. The other uponit7771 May 2016 #430

If Dr. West didn't use that word before the crowds in IA and NH Ken Burch May 2016 #460

No it's not enough, that's so very privileged of you to say and I don't care what color your skin is uponit7771 May 2016 #461

+1! Enthusiast May 2016 #239

I don't hate him I just don't like what he called President Obama. hrmjustin May 2016 #127

Don't you understand jpmonk91 May 2016 #136

That is your kind interpretation. That is not what he did. hrmjustin May 2016 #139

It is my reality jpmonk91 May 2016 #143

I could care less whether you question my liberalism. hrmjustin May 2016 #146

Your reality is warped by your Bernie worship. Egnever May 2016 #150

Well done cropping the explanation, it really strengthens your position not posting it in full Bodhi BloodWave May 2016 #482

The rest of it doesn't make it any better Egnever May 2016 #483

Personally i still respect the fellow, tho it went down a tad with the use of that word Bodhi BloodWave May 2016 #484

No, not at all..Obama spoke about racial issues before he was elected... this is bullshit on a stick uponit7771 May 2016 #149

Impostors Would Tear Down West The Most billhicks76 May 2016 #144

Or racist dum asses love a guy who calls Obama niggerized like west did last year and the excuse uponit7771 May 2016 #151

So you are saying that black BLM activist and leader Cornel West is racist against Black people? AgingAmerican May 2016 #231

He isn't a BLM activist. You can keep repeating that lie... TwilightZone May 2016 #249

He is a BLM activist and leader AgingAmerican May 2016 #254

I could give a fuck if he was Jesus hurling forms of racist slurs at the president in front of mostl uponit7771 May 2016 #431

So you are implying he is racist against AAs? AgingAmerican May 2016 #432

What I said was clear, you don't label people racist terms or any form of them if you're a true uponit7771 May 2016 #454

Cornell West Is Racist? billhicks76 May 2016 #259

Nah, just an asshole who doesn't mind normalizing forms of racist terms in front of white people uponit7771 May 2016 #455

I Agree jpmonk91 May 2016 #155

Me too. Enthusiast May 2016 #250

Yoohoo! Here's a tangent for unity's sake Mike__M May 2016 #147

two words Cryptoad May 2016 #153

No Cornell West is not jpmonk91 May 2016 #160

if u dont want the answers to ur Q, dont ask it Cryptoad May 2016 #166

Actually, he is a loser and 99% of the AA Community thinks so. leftofcool May 2016 #297

What! jpmonk91 May 2016 #298

I guess you don't go to many AA forums. leftofcool May 2016 #477

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #192

You Defended NSA Spying Till It Was A Dead Horse billhicks76 May 2016 #265

he has attacked Obama too many times for things beyond Obama's control or expecting Demonaut May 2016 #154

Well Obama is to passive jpmonk91 May 2016 #163

yeah and republicans are too submissive Demonaut May 2016 #165

Obama got 76% of his agenda passed who in the hell is that "passive"... wow.. you guys are uponit7771 May 2016 #193

I pray to Dog he fails on the TPP! Enthusiast May 2016 #255

Me too, I don't think he's used his God given abilities to explain to America why its a good deal uponit7771 May 2016 #340

I've yet to hear it. Just make the claim of 650,000 new jobs. Which is way untrue. Enthusiast May 2016 #357

650k new jobs is nothing Egnever May 2016 #446

It is the sovereignty issue that most concerns us. Enthusiast May 2016 #448

I find the sovereignty argument specious Egnever May 2016 #449

No. Why even have a new treaty then? Why bother? Any defense of the TPP and TTIP Enthusiast May 2016 #451

Because as it stands negotiating all the different treaties is a nightmare Egnever May 2016 #456

seems lefties are not welcome anymore dembotoz May 2016 #164

I guess we are not welcome jpmonk91 May 2016 #172

IfYou think calling Obama some form of nigger is acceptable then I pray you don't think your welcome uponit7771 May 2016 #196

well enjoy your sloppy kisses with henry kissinger and the likes of him dembotoz May 2016 #390

Better a kiss from an enemy than a stab in the back from a friend, that's a proveb you walked right uponit7771 May 2016 #414

oh hell no i just fear part of the party are no longer able to tell the differnence dembotoz May 2016 #472

Calling Obama some form of nigger isn't "leftie" at all uponit7771 May 2016 #194

He merely expressed an observation. Enthusiast May 2016 #260

Using the most vile terms avaiable uponit7771 May 2016 #264

His passion was aroused. Enthusiast May 2016 #269

12343 times? Yeah right uponit7771 May 2016 #323

You've used the term many more times on this post than Mr West panader0 May 2016 #291

Nope, not happy with people calling the Obama some form of nigger at all... I'm using the term to uponit7771 May 2016 #325

A wasted progressive voice Loki May 2016 #171

He represents what we could have accomplished for the people. People don't like to be jtuck004 May 2016 #173

I agree jpmonk91 May 2016 #178

Calling Obama some form of nigger isn't an accomplishment uponit7771 May 2016 #187

Cornell West didn't call him that! jpmonk91 May 2016 #198

This is false on its face, "niggerized" is a form of nigger... I don't' live on planet Unicornia uponit7771 May 2016 #240

Some people have an agenda clearly. nt valerief May 2016 #174

Well you can be for racial equality and still attack someone who agrees with you Warpy May 2016 #180

Not by calling them some form of nigger, that's not for racial anything uponit7771 May 2016 #197

For the last time jpmonk91 May 2016 #202

Good we agree, he called him a FORM of nigger which isn't any better. uponit7771 May 2016 #210

OMG jpmonk91 May 2016 #220

We agree again, the people excusing this behavior of West will claim up and down they didn't uponit7771 May 2016 #224

That is funny, Warpy! Enthusiast May 2016 #266

Why all the fake confusion about Dr. West and flame bait OP's? The Polack MSgt May 2016 #201

Um no jpmonk91 May 2016 #207

He attacked my President. Don't need anything else. Laser102 May 2016 #203

Yeap, called Obama some form of nigger but that's acceptable to some people uponit7771 May 2016 #227

So, Presidents are 840high May 2016 #363

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #387

I don't hate him personally ismnotwasm May 2016 #204

Some people confuse loyalty to a CAUSE with loyalty to a person. Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #222

I've met Mr. West, read much of his writing, and . . FairWinds May 2016 #232

Finally jpmonk91 May 2016 #237

Of course not, once does not make a person nor does one believing it was isolated with West make it uponit7771 May 2016 #248

OMG jpmonk91 May 2016 #257

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #353

Very well put, thanks . . FairWinds May 2016 #434

West made an arguable criticsm of Obama which is one thing forjusticethunders May 2016 #245

+1!!!! uponit7771 May 2016 #258

You think jpmonk91 May 2016 #261

West is persona non grata with black people. forjusticethunders May 2016 #268

Wrong jpmonk91 May 2016 #271

Yeah he has a nice message but calling the first black president forjusticethunders May 2016 #276

He is referring to how jpmonk91 May 2016 #280

That is some awesome twisting there. Egnever May 2016 #293

BULL FUCKIN SHIT!!! Calling Obama some form of nigger doesn't sit well with black folk at all uponit7771 May 2016 #342

How about if you fighting progressive keyboarder . . FairWinds May 2016 #267

It's like when Glen Back said that Obama has . . FairWinds May 2016 #273

Thank you! jpmonk91 May 2016 #282

He refused to brought to heel. onecaliberal May 2016 #278

This is the offense they rail over. mmonk May 2016 #294

I agree dad jpmonk91 May 2016 #296

I regards to cornel west's nigerization comment jpmonk91 May 2016 #295

Bullshit, we can read... he said Obama wasn't expressing disdain for white supremecy and he did uponit7771 May 2016 #339

Because he dared criticize Queen Hillary. Odin2005 May 2016 #303

I agree jpmonk91 May 2016 #304

Bullshit ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #327

He jumped the shark a while ago Politicub May 2016 #305

He uses some harsh language felix_numinous May 2016 #311

Yeah, "harsh language" is calling the president some form of nigger... glad that's what people... uponit7771 May 2016 #400

Because he is an embarrassment to progressives. frankieallen May 2016 #317

He has a doctorate jpmonk91 May 2016 #318

Ya, what does that mean? So does Michael savage frankieallen May 2016 #319

OMG jpmonk91 May 2016 #321

In theology. That's kind of embarassing. nt msanthrope May 2016 #366

OMG msanthrope! Egnever May 2016 #381

got my daughter threatened on this board last week... Jury let it stand. msanthrope May 2016 #396

Lovely Egnever May 2016 #422

Calling Obama ni*****zed is pretty pathetic. He can be your champion, he's not mine frankieallen May 2016 #322

Look jpmonk91 May 2016 #326

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #338

You should have saved your rhetorical question and just admitted you don't care for Obama ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #328

He is not the perfect president jpmonk91 May 2016 #330

Hopefully he's not "perfect", shit... he's human... no one needs "perfect" were faithful is more tha uponit7771 May 2016 #344

Because he isn't deferential to Obama. Ken Burch May 2016 #329

Exactly jpmonk91 May 2016 #331

Or he calls a black president some form of nigger and the "progressives" think it's appropriate?! uponit7771 May 2016 #337

No...it's just that Bernie supporters don't think it's all that matters about Dr. West. Ken Burch May 2016 #341

No it isn't, he's an asshole who OPENLY hates Obama because he didn't give him the right seating uponit7771 May 2016 #343

You don't know what you are talking about. kwassa May 2016 #347

It's one thing to say that, because Bernie had never considered running for president prior to 2014 Ken Burch May 2016 #348

I got the distinct impression .... kwassa May 2016 #354

I do listen and have tried to be responsive. Sorry if I'm not always good at conveying that. Ken Burch May 2016 #358

I agree also jpmonk91 May 2016 #371

I just sent you a private message on this. Ken Burch May 2016 #374

Thanks jpmonk91 May 2016 #462

A lot of black politico KNOW the "progressive" side of the left is no better racially then moderate uponit7771 May 2016 #405

.that^ 840high May 2016 #364

I used to admire Dr. West... Feathery Scout May 2016 #349

Cornell West would be more respected if he did not make up allegations Albertoo May 2016 #350

He criticized Obama. Before that, he was wonderful. Then, he liked Bernie better than Hillary, merrily May 2016 #351

You ask 'why his Cornel hated when he's a progressive?' == THAT's what gets him hated!!! cloudythescribbler May 2016 #355

Ah, I get it... "progressives" think its ok to call black people some form of nigger... ah ok... no uponit7771 May 2016 #399

from where in particular do u reason to the notion of using the 'n-word' or a close surrogate term? cloudythescribbler May 2016 #445

further seeing some of ur many other comments on this thread, I now know what ur referring to ... cloudythescribbler May 2016 #450

I have always enjoyed listening to West. Admire him. 840high May 2016 #359

How dare he have the backbone to stand up for his morals. JEB May 2016 #360

I greatly admire that. 840high May 2016 #365

Ab-so-fucking-lutely. nt JEB May 2016 #367

By calling Obama some form of nigger and saying he's something in "blackface"?! That's MORAL NOW?! uponit7771 May 2016 #401

A lot of us grew up looking to him as a God. HuckleB May 2016 #362

No, hes an asshole who started throwing shade on Obama because of seating arrangements and then uponit7771 May 2016 #404

Thanks for posting this. I was unaware of the rabid hatred toward a truly outstanding person. Judi Lynn May 2016 #373

Truly outstanding is calling Obama some form of nigger and saying he's blackfaced?! So progressive uponit7771 May 2016 #403

here's why: ericson00 May 2016 #375

Just go away jpmonk91 May 2016 #442

Because a lot of people on DU are personality cultists and are offended by insufficient loyalty. LeftyMom May 2016 #379

Or greatly offended by West calling Obama some form of nigger, I'm not happy people don't see that uponit7771 May 2016 #398

He used to be very popular here melman May 2016 #382

Until he called Obama some form of nigger, of course he was popular before that but the people uponit7771 May 2016 #397

Because he's a black man who isn't backing Clinton, of course Scootaloo May 2016 #383

This has nothing to do with Clinton and everything to do with Obama La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #394

Which is exactly why Sean King got the same sort of hate when he switched? Scootaloo May 2016 #437

no, he has been unrelenting the last 8 years. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #438

Exactly my point. Scootaloo May 2016 #440

i am Democrat who believes that people should not make up lies about the democratic president La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #463

Few understand the context of his remarks and simply think he called Obama the N word. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #389

People can read and understand calling Obama any form of nigger (with the er) is fucked up but the uponit7771 May 2016 #402

Learn the context. Start with Florynce Kennedy. West didn't call anyone the n word. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #406

I did see the context and he's still wrong, he said Obama was some form of nigger (with er) because uponit7771 May 2016 #408

He didn't call Barack Obama the N word no matter how much you wish it to be so. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #411

Strawman, never said he did... I said he called him a FORM of nigger and that's a fact that's uponit7771 May 2016 #413

I still don't think you understand the context of the word used. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #415

I don't tolerate racism from anyone in any form, I don't give a fuck about the context of the word uponit7771 May 2016 #418

West stayed loyal to principles rather than personalities. That's a crime among some "Democrats." Scuba May 2016 #407

Yeah, he's principled to call Obama some form of nigger (with er inflection) and so called.... uponit7771 May 2016 #409

I would not have picked the word he used, but then I'm not a black champion of civil rights. Scuba May 2016 #410

He used words like "blackface" Obama is "Zimmerman" globally and other choice terms to ... uponit7771 May 2016 #412

The policies of the ruling class kill millions yet some focus on the language used by their critics. Scuba May 2016 #424

Racist language is part of the ruling classes verbiage but again, excuse his racist ass'd verbiage uponit7771 May 2016 #427

He won't sit down, shut-up and fall in line. Oh and he speaks his mind. People HATE that. n/t leeroysphitz May 2016 #416

Exactly. polly7 May 2016 #417

He doesn't have to do any of that and not call Obama a form of nigger in front of mostly white peopl uponit7771 May 2016 #419

The truth sounds like hate to people that hate the truth. n/t leeroysphitz May 2016 #420

We agree, the truth about West is he's "shining" by throwing shade at Obama using racist terms ... uponit7771 May 2016 #421

39 times has the N word come up in this thread... and EVERY TIME, you posted it. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #423

Yeah, you're right... niggerized doesn't equal nigger so they're not the same thing :rolleyes: uponit7771 May 2016 #428

First correct thing you've posted. Not the same. One is a verb, the other a noun. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #436

Good, we agree.. racist assholes think the word is still something one would call a person... uponit7771 May 2016 #453

Psssst... you don't call people verbs. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #457

...then they grammar check you... uponit7771 May 2016 #458

Just as I thought. You still don't get the context. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #459

I don't know if anyone has shared this article with you gollygee May 2016 #425

As a Sanders supporter I can safely say romanic May 2016 #426

+1, that's EXACTLY what West has called Obama in so many words cause he felt slighted over uponit7771 May 2016 #429

OMG jpmonk91 May 2016 #441

I love him. nt Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #433

He is an egomaniac. nt arely staircase May 2016 #452

His outspoken criticism of Obama is seen as a betrayal by many. bluedigger May 2016 #464

Exactly jpmonk91 May 2016 #465

Calling the first black president some form of nigger (er enflection) is deplorable to progressives uponit7771 May 2016 #475

Because he hasn't come to heel yet? MrMickeysMom May 2016 #469

Or he called the first black president some form of nigger?! Jus a guess, seeing this thread the far uponit7771 May 2016 #474

Stop! jpmonk91 May 2016 #480

No, just an asshole who used racialized words that for some reason the "far left" accepts uponit7771 May 2016 #485

Far left jpmonk91 May 2016 #488

Nope, just stating facts... this thread is proof positive the "far left" is too tolerant of racist.. uponit7771 May 2016 #489

I'm starting to think jpmonk91 May 2016 #490

This thread is Exhibit 5,247,992 in ways that black folks and white "leftists" have little in common Number23 May 2016 #471

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #473

We have a lot in common jpmonk91 May 2016 #481

Because: Smarmie Doofus May 2016 #478

Not wanting the black president to be called some form of nigger isn't "OBSESSED" with anything uponit7771 May 2016 #486

It goes to Bernie's poor judgement of people with whom he surrounds himself redstateblues May 2016 #479

He does not worship Obama. alarimer May 2016 #487