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Egnever

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281. Not sure exactly what you mean by carve outs

Tue May 24, 2016, 04:19 PM

May 2016

Having said that I am more than open to discussing differing opinions on trade agreements. It is when you start to demonize the people on the other side of the argument that I find it to be a problem.

Not you as in you personally as I don't see you doing that.

Cornel on the other hand seems to have been offended by Obama and has made a few too many questionable remarks about Obama because of it. There are lot's of incredible leaders in the AA community that can make incredibly sound arguments for their cause without bringing the discourse down to the level that Cornel seems wont to bring it to. Agree or disagree with those people I have respect for them and their Opinions.

In this thread my opinion is limited to my feelings about Cornel and because of his many disparaging statements I find him to be offensive regardless of the fact that I agree with him on many issues.

Peace!

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Why all the hate towards Cornell West? [View all] jpmonk91 May 2016 OP

Actually like West and enjoy listening to him. But, I think he doesn't like Obama Hoyt May 2016 #1

But jpmonk91 May 2016 #6

You might not but many do. Egnever May 2016 #14

When jpmonk91 May 2016 #15

Moslty right after Obama was elected Egnever May 2016 #17

Because he picked neoliberal financial people like Larry Summers and Tim Geithner for starters Ned_Devine May 2016 #44

You can give reasons all you want Egnever May 2016 #47

he's for single payer which works. Baobab May 2016 #112

So what? Egnever May 2016 #116

Correct...his attitude towards Obama Perseus May 2016 #140

Exactly! Egnever May 2016 #142

Ultimately West like many of us is disappointed in Obama ...... raindaddy May 2016 #186

No he did not run as a progressive Egnever May 2016 #195

When Obama promised to... raindaddy May 2016 #283

He isn't king Egnever May 2016 #289

Transparent is just another word for useless jpmonk91 May 2016 #302

I think that comment says pretty much everything about your stance on this subject Egnever May 2016 #309

Well it's because jpmonk91 May 2016 #315

You just said he never campaigned as a liberal... raindaddy May 2016 #313

+1 frankieallen May 2016 #301

No, he was not at all clear about who he was. I voted for him because he was NEW-- Peace Patriot May 2016 #320

thank you- Baobab May 2016 #214

I have no issue with people dissagreeing Egnever May 2016 #263

Results... Major Nikon May 2016 #208

Guess the alerter doesn't think much of Cornel's phrasing either.. Egnever May 2016 #215

It was me, and I apologize, I realized right after I didit that it was a mistake. Baobab May 2016 #228

No problem Egnever May 2016 #274

Bad choice of words, I agree with that. Need for carve outs. Baobab May 2016 #275

Not sure exactly what you mean by carve outs Egnever May 2016 #281

Peace! Baobab May 2016 #284

So they don't like him because zeemike May 2016 #117

LOL Egnever May 2016 #120

That is a POV...Opinion. zeemike May 2016 #124

And in my opinion and that of many others it is offensive Egnever May 2016 #130

Same reason they hate Susan Sarandon melman May 2016 #376

So you don't like him because? KPN May 2016 #156

Just one of many repulsive comments he has made Egnever May 2016 #167

Whatever the hell it means, it does sound like there's some KPN May 2016 #307

Thanks Egnever May 2016 #312

Ah. Understandable. KPN May 2016 #368

Nope no problem with Bernie at all Egnever May 2016 #369

I'm with you on that. Fully. Thanks. JDPriestly May 2016 #113

The Libya attack was absolute madness.......... DemMomma4Sanders May 2016 #145

Do some research, for God's sake. brush May 2016 #56

No. He doesn't like Obama because Obama sold out. Octafish May 2016 #21

Except that Obama didn't pose as a progressive. TwilightZone May 2016 #28

This a million times this ^^^^^ Egnever May 2016 #50

and a lot of people don't like Clinton and would rather see anyone in the White House than Hiraeth May 2016 #103

I have zero problem with that Egnever May 2016 #107

I didin't call him that and guess what you are nasty and welcome to ignore. Hiraeth May 2016 #108

Nope Cornel did Egnever May 2016 #122

that is mercuryblues May 2016 #277

re: "He has governed exactly as he said he would." thesquanderer May 2016 #199

Of course you did Egnever May 2016 #209

Those were promises that never happened BuelahWitch May 2016 #251

Well one could argue it is part of the TPP Egnever May 2016 #270

No, it is not an amendment to NAFTA. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #435

No you are right it is not an amendment to nafta Egnever May 2016 #439

Easy to see why you love revisionist history. Octafish May 2016 #65

Your proof is one Q & A and a link to TARP? TwilightZone May 2016 #68

I agree that was pretty funny! zappaman May 2016 #70

zappaman! Octafish May 2016 #79

Dude! zappaman May 2016 #94

Compared to your word it is. Octafish May 2016 #77

At least it shows he did some research BuelahWitch May 2016 #262

A-friggin'-men! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #73

health care plan Baobab May 2016 #242

Obama didn't pose as progressive? countryrose May 2016 #491

Obama not only didnt sell out, but spoiled, privileged Americans who attack him are gonna miss him Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #32

No he sold out jpmonk91 May 2016 #49

You arent actually interested in that answer. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #51

What does this jpmonk91 May 2016 #54

Obama is supposed to arrest and convict them? Didnt you say here or somewhere Obama is a sellout Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #64

The perpetually angry won't become less so with facts ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #86

Yes. Most who are angry dont really have the first clue how great Obama has been. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #99

Fantastic posts from you in this thread. Not that they will make ONE BIT OF DIFFERENCE Number23 May 2016 #467

Thank you, it is embarrassing to see how little people really know about Obama and what Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #470

Bravo! JustAnotherGen May 2016 #285

Thanks...Obama has been so successful in so many ways, but the Obama haters Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #286

He let Detroit go bankrupt and is letting Puerto Rico go bankrupt. Octafish May 2016 #76

Uh huh - There is more, I can keep going.... Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #81

Great. But Obama let Bush and Cheney, and ALL the Warmongers, Spies & Banksters, go free. Octafish May 2016 #102

First, YOU wouldnt have the guts to go after those guys, trust me. If all you have is this Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #105

Thank you! Digital Puppy May 2016 #119

Never saw that.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #175

Technically he didn't sell out he always tried to have it both ways and make race a nonissue. craigmatic May 2016 #345

Jackie . . FairWinds May 2016 #206

What do you think the TPP is? Egnever May 2016 #217

The TPP is more of the same corporatist crap . . FairWinds May 2016 #247

So because you don't agree with it it is not a renegotiation? Egnever May 2016 #272

There are many reasons it is not a negotiation OrwellwasRight May 2016 #346

Simply sit next to it is misleading Egnever May 2016 #372

Your post is misleading. OrwellwasRight May 2016 #392

Well that was a mouthful of pretty insults with not much substance. Egnever May 2016 #444

The substance is absolutely there OrwellwasRight May 2016 #466

Isn't someone allowed to not like Obama? OrwellwasRight May 2016 #332

I don't like everything about Obama, either-- snot May 2016 #377

Absolutely not perfect Egnever May 2016 #378

They should all read his book Democracy Matters mikeysnot May 2016 #2

Because of the disgusting ways he's talked about Obama. CrowCityDem May 2016 #3

Freedom of speech jpmonk91 May 2016 #8

Yeah, he can say it. And I can hate him for it. CrowCityDem May 2016 #10

I have negative feelings for him because of Obama as well. Greybnk48 May 2016 #12

I don't have to like him to suit Bernie supporters leftofcool May 2016 #18

I'm not saying you have to like him for Bernie supporters jpmonk91 May 2016 #25

I'm not saying you have to like him for Bernie supporters AlbertCat May 2016 #55

"Out of all of West's life, his single act of criticizing Obama makes him impure now" PragmaticLiberal May 2016 #229

they don't believe it's purely motivated by politics. AlbertCat May 2016 #300

This message was self-deleted by its author PragmaticLiberal May 2016 #308

So, sheshe2 May 2016 #67

Wait....whoa Stuckinthebush May 2016 #71

I believe in racial equality and I think he's wrong about Pres. Obama. shenmue May 2016 #188

What in the WORLD does freedom of speech have to do with this conversation? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #35

Not a damn thing Stuckinthebush May 2016 #72

+1, calling Obama niggerized' is just free speech now on DU uponit7771 May 2016 #110

I have the freedom to say what ever I want jpmonk91 May 2016 #299

You are confused about where freedom of speech arguments belong and dont Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #310

Does that same right apply to criticism of individuals? LanternWaste May 2016 #41

West is free to express his opinion and we are free to think that he is an idiot Gothmog May 2016 #66

yes, and it also affords us the right to discuss cornell well critically. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #90

he can say what he wants Skittles May 2016 #336

He's perfect for Bernie. Sore Losers Squad Assemble! nt onehandle May 2016 #4

Sore losers Squad? mikeysnot May 2016 #20

Obama hated Blumenthal and blacklisted him. Yet Hillary Clinton used him as a source polly7 May 2016 #45

Nailed it! nt Duval May 2016 #92

Hahahahaha! Nailed it. brush May 2016 #60

He has a history of dumping on President Obama. Skinner May 2016 #5

I believe he is more dissapointed than a hater. mikeysnot May 2016 #19

+1! Enthusiast May 2016 #211

Democratic Party Loyalty > Human Rights. [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #7

If that is the case jpmonk91 May 2016 #11

The reason people don't like him is because he spoke truth to power, Maedhros May 2016 #38

It appears to be the case. Enthusiast May 2016 #213

Ladies & gentlemen.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #137

It's because of what he says scscholar May 2016 #9

Yeah ... There is a contingent of DUers Trajan May 2016 #13

There is a common misconception that "Liberal" means only "Not Republican." Maedhros May 2016 #40

One can still be a liberal and take issue with calling Barack Obama the "first niggerized President" TwilightZone May 2016 #52

He's perfect for Bernie and Bernie can keep him. leftofcool May 2016 #16

He's intelligent, educated, perceptive, compassionate, Zorra May 2016 #22

Thank you jpmonk91 May 2016 #24

I understand. Don't let the name of this forum fool you. Zorra May 2016 #36

And just as much dislike for West too. brush May 2016 #62

That's not true. In fact, it's ludicrous. I'd ask for evidence, Zorra May 2016 #135

You don't know what you're talking about. brush May 2016 #179

I feel like the jpmonk91 May 2016 #316

That would be correct Enthusiast May 2016 #216

Wow this is disgusting jpmonk91 May 2016 #23

Well, that is a long and sad story. It started back in the early 1990s. Many of us were taken in.... Enthusiast May 2016 #218

We were indeed, by the triangulation tango and WJC-HRC, Inc. GoneOffShore May 2016 #290

Great song, thanks GoneOffShore saidsimplesimon May 2016 #356

What (other than irrational biases) specifically leads you to believe that criticism LanternWaste May 2016 #26

He is a champion of racial equality jpmonk91 May 2016 #29

That's merely a response rather than an answer LanternWaste May 2016 #37

He became hateful in recent years, elleng May 2016 #27

I haven't seen that jpmonk91 May 2016 #33

All criticism of Obama (or Hillary) is "hate" [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #42

Seems to be that way recently. nt Duval May 2016 #97

Some people forget this truth. Enthusiast May 2016 #221

Because he's an abrasive jerk with nothing valuable left to say. (nt) Paladin May 2016 #30

I value what he says. I value it greatly. Enthusiast May 2016 #225

Suits me. (nt) Paladin May 2016 #314

he'd rather stand up than kneel: simple as that MisterP May 2016 #31

I haven't seen that JustAnotherGen May 2016 #34

Because he's not with Team Hillary. Gene Debs May 2016 #39

And we are so glad! leftofcool May 2016 #63

More, because he's for Bernie, truth be told. SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #129

If you think this all started with Bernie you haven't been paying attention to Cornel Egnever May 2016 #138

Oh, definitely not. Dr. West was not shy about voicing his disappointment with Obama's Gene Debs May 2016 #161

That is your perogative Egnever May 2016 #170

My guess is... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #43

Because he's been a blowhard forever and is in love with the sound of his own voice? Hekate May 2016 #46

Who in politics isn't? Ed Suspicious May 2016 #53

Does that mean you love all politicians? Egnever May 2016 #57

You're just calling names. Enthusiast May 2016 #230

You're just too cute by half. I say "blowhard", Brother West says "niggerized" Hekate May 2016 #246

That is a debate we cannot have. Enthusiast May 2016 #253

I personally would have liked another choice, because I feel the pain and the hatred due to his highprincipleswork May 2016 #48

I have to say Cornel West is the most caring and understanding person I have ever met fasttense May 2016 #61

He's an actual progressive, and conservative trolls hate that in a person n/t arcane1 May 2016 #58

Yea cause progressives say stuff like this Egnever May 2016 #84

I didn't realize we all had to worship Obama. Silly me. arcane1 May 2016 #87

LOL Egnever May 2016 #91

The mental gymnastics are amazing indeed. arcane1 May 2016 #95

Ahhhh, that word, "worship" ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #324

Frankly, as far as foul opinions about persons like Obama go .... Trajan May 2016 #352

Nope Egnever May 2016 #370

Your dad as well as brother West thank you. mmonk May 2016 #59

Here's a start for me Egnever May 2016 #69

So you're to obsessed with obama jpmonk91 May 2016 #75

It's all an act n/t arcane1 May 2016 #88

Yea that's it Egnever May 2016 #89

He's criticized a few corporate Democrats for being corporate Democrats. Marr May 2016 #74

Agree 100% jpmonk91 May 2016 #78

That is... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #83

Because Obama and Hillary. nt OnyxCollie May 2016 #80

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #82

Cornell West isn't a Democrat. TwilightZone May 2016 #101

very easily. one person doesn't make a movement. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #85

You just worship Obama Egnever May 2016 #96

i don't worship him, but i do respect him and his presidency. I don't think an academic really La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #98

Agreed Egnever May 2016 #100

You're right jpmonk91 May 2016 #132

the biggest insult to the AA community LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #134

i didn't say that though. you took something i said and reinterpreted it to fit your narrative. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #212

"not respectful" LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #279

+1 Hekate May 2016 #152

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #388

Who is the they who throw out their thinkers ? La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #393

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #395

i am a fan Mira May 2016 #93

Right on! Enthusiast May 2016 #235

Because he's a jerk nini May 2016 #104

It's not because he is black jpmonk91 May 2016 #118

You're just calling names. Enthusiast May 2016 #236

at the risk of sounding divisive: I think he was targeted for being the blackest of Sanders picks. Betty Karlson May 2016 #106

When your whole decision process is colored by the primary Egnever May 2016 #114

After reading all the hate jpmonk91 May 2016 #125

People in the AA group here at DU were criticizing him for ages before this primary season gollygee May 2016 #169

Prior to 2007? Capt. Obvious May 2016 #443

Prior to Bernie Sander's presidential candidacy. N/t gollygee May 2016 #447

Only racist dumb ass's think Super Predator is exclusive to PoC uponit7771 May 2016 #200

I think we all know that back in the 90-ies, the majority of the targets of that slur were PoC. Betty Karlson May 2016 #287

Yes we knew. 840high May 2016 #361

You mean the guy who called Obama "niggerized" last year?!?!? A better question is why all the love? uponit7771 May 2016 #109

what does that even mean? wendylaroux May 2016 #128

Something vile and unbecoming but somehow people ask why the hate for this vile asshole... uponit7771 May 2016 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #391

Because Sanders likes him. AllyCat May 2016 #111

Yeap, Sanders "likes" a guy who called Obama niggerized last year and has him stump in front uponit7771 May 2016 #158

Because he says over the top, stupid shit like praising Trump as "authentic": SunSeeker May 2016 #115

Thanks a lot for taking jpmonk91 May 2016 #123

I showed the WHOLE TWEET. I didn't take anything "out of context." SunSeeker May 2016 #288

He is saying that jpmonk91 May 2016 #292

That is not what he said. I quoted him about "Brother Trump." SunSeeker May 2016 #306

West is a Progressive/Radical. Obama is a conservative Democrat. jalan48 May 2016 #121

Because he criticized Obama once AgingAmerican May 2016 #126

Calling Obama "niggerized" is a tad bit more than "criticized" but of course Sanders camp likes him uponit7771 May 2016 #133

So what? AgingAmerican May 2016 #141

Calling Obama "niggerized' = so what?! REALLY!?!... ok, bookmarked, screen printed and saved uponit7771 May 2016 #148

Yes, and he stated exactly what that means AgingAmerican May 2016 #157

which is bullshit on a stick since it's false on its face, there's no narrative to fit. West is an.. uponit7771 May 2016 #159

He explained exactly what it means AgingAmerican May 2016 #162

His explanation was bullshit Egnever May 2016 #176

His explanation was spot on AgingAmerican May 2016 #181

More nonsense Egnever May 2016 #185

Cornel was talking about the issues of TODAY AgingAmerican May 2016 #205

WTF that speach was all about Ferguson and the shootings at the black church Egnever May 2016 #219

He is/was quite specific on the subject AgingAmerican May 2016 #223

Yea ok Egnever May 2016 #226

bullshit, Obama spoke on race and racial supremecy before he was elected. West is an asshole uponit7771 May 2016 #233

Before and after are two entirely different things AgingAmerican May 2016 #234

we agree, MUCH MUCH MUCH harder to talk about it BEFORE upcoming election than after but West uponit7771 May 2016 #238

You can keep moving the goal posts, but... AgingAmerican May 2016 #241

Don't bother. The poster you're replying to insists that the N-word isn't even a slur. TwilightZone May 2016 #256

Huge +1! Enthusiast May 2016 #244

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #191

Please stop calling Brother West names like that. Many of us like Brother West very much. Enthusiast May 2016 #243

Fuck Cornell West and the horse he road in on. Calling Obama some form of nigger isn't progressive uponit7771 May 2016 #252

Does the "Brother West" bullshit annoy you as much as it does me? Number23 May 2016 #468

Yes, ... yes it does... West "shines" in front of white people calling Obama as many vile names uponit7771 May 2016 #476

TY for archiving some of DU's riper historical moments Hekate May 2016 #168

They'll swear up and down none of this happened... racially it seems like we're taking a step uponit7771 May 2016 #177

I think it is just primary madness Egnever May 2016 #182

That's tru, but when made aware they talk about free speech & shit, some people have to check their uponit7771 May 2016 #184

That I agree with completely Egnever May 2016 #190

Back when all this started ismnotwasm May 2016 #183

+1, they'll gas light the shit out of threads like this and act like they don't exist uponit7771 May 2016 #189

It was his word, none of us would have said it that way. Ken Burch May 2016 #333

Calling anyone any form of nigger is inappropriate not matter what the "natter" was. The bigger issu uponit7771 May 2016 #334

I DON'T approve of the use of the word. It's nothing I ever would have said. Ken Burch May 2016 #335

Can't speak for Uponit Egnever May 2016 #380

You're right, I am protective of Bernie. I'll cop to being oversensitive on that. Ken Burch May 2016 #384

I agree completely Egnever May 2016 #385

This is a really positive exchange we're having here. Ken Burch May 2016 #386

He can be all that and NOT label the president some form of nigger (er inflection) either. The other uponit7771 May 2016 #430

If Dr. West didn't use that word before the crowds in IA and NH Ken Burch May 2016 #460

No it's not enough, that's so very privileged of you to say and I don't care what color your skin is uponit7771 May 2016 #461

+1! Enthusiast May 2016 #239

I don't hate him I just don't like what he called President Obama. hrmjustin May 2016 #127

Don't you understand jpmonk91 May 2016 #136

That is your kind interpretation. That is not what he did. hrmjustin May 2016 #139

It is my reality jpmonk91 May 2016 #143

I could care less whether you question my liberalism. hrmjustin May 2016 #146

Your reality is warped by your Bernie worship. Egnever May 2016 #150

Well done cropping the explanation, it really strengthens your position not posting it in full Bodhi BloodWave May 2016 #482

The rest of it doesn't make it any better Egnever May 2016 #483

Personally i still respect the fellow, tho it went down a tad with the use of that word Bodhi BloodWave May 2016 #484

No, not at all..Obama spoke about racial issues before he was elected... this is bullshit on a stick uponit7771 May 2016 #149

Impostors Would Tear Down West The Most billhicks76 May 2016 #144

Or racist dum asses love a guy who calls Obama niggerized like west did last year and the excuse uponit7771 May 2016 #151

So you are saying that black BLM activist and leader Cornel West is racist against Black people? AgingAmerican May 2016 #231

He isn't a BLM activist. You can keep repeating that lie... TwilightZone May 2016 #249

He is a BLM activist and leader AgingAmerican May 2016 #254

I could give a fuck if he was Jesus hurling forms of racist slurs at the president in front of mostl uponit7771 May 2016 #431

So you are implying he is racist against AAs? AgingAmerican May 2016 #432

What I said was clear, you don't label people racist terms or any form of them if you're a true uponit7771 May 2016 #454

Cornell West Is Racist? billhicks76 May 2016 #259

Nah, just an asshole who doesn't mind normalizing forms of racist terms in front of white people uponit7771 May 2016 #455

I Agree jpmonk91 May 2016 #155

Me too. Enthusiast May 2016 #250

Yoohoo! Here's a tangent for unity's sake Mike__M May 2016 #147

two words Cryptoad May 2016 #153

No Cornell West is not jpmonk91 May 2016 #160

if u dont want the answers to ur Q, dont ask it Cryptoad May 2016 #166

Actually, he is a loser and 99% of the AA Community thinks so. leftofcool May 2016 #297

What! jpmonk91 May 2016 #298

I guess you don't go to many AA forums. leftofcool May 2016 #477

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #192

You Defended NSA Spying Till It Was A Dead Horse billhicks76 May 2016 #265

he has attacked Obama too many times for things beyond Obama's control or expecting Demonaut May 2016 #154

Well Obama is to passive jpmonk91 May 2016 #163

yeah and republicans are too submissive Demonaut May 2016 #165

Obama got 76% of his agenda passed who in the hell is that "passive"... wow.. you guys are uponit7771 May 2016 #193

I pray to Dog he fails on the TPP! Enthusiast May 2016 #255

Me too, I don't think he's used his God given abilities to explain to America why its a good deal uponit7771 May 2016 #340

I've yet to hear it. Just make the claim of 650,000 new jobs. Which is way untrue. Enthusiast May 2016 #357

650k new jobs is nothing Egnever May 2016 #446

It is the sovereignty issue that most concerns us. Enthusiast May 2016 #448

I find the sovereignty argument specious Egnever May 2016 #449

No. Why even have a new treaty then? Why bother? Any defense of the TPP and TTIP Enthusiast May 2016 #451

Because as it stands negotiating all the different treaties is a nightmare Egnever May 2016 #456

seems lefties are not welcome anymore dembotoz May 2016 #164

I guess we are not welcome jpmonk91 May 2016 #172

IfYou think calling Obama some form of nigger is acceptable then I pray you don't think your welcome uponit7771 May 2016 #196

well enjoy your sloppy kisses with henry kissinger and the likes of him dembotoz May 2016 #390

Better a kiss from an enemy than a stab in the back from a friend, that's a proveb you walked right uponit7771 May 2016 #414

oh hell no i just fear part of the party are no longer able to tell the differnence dembotoz May 2016 #472

Calling Obama some form of nigger isn't "leftie" at all uponit7771 May 2016 #194

He merely expressed an observation. Enthusiast May 2016 #260

Using the most vile terms avaiable uponit7771 May 2016 #264

His passion was aroused. Enthusiast May 2016 #269

12343 times? Yeah right uponit7771 May 2016 #323

You've used the term many more times on this post than Mr West panader0 May 2016 #291

Nope, not happy with people calling the Obama some form of nigger at all... I'm using the term to uponit7771 May 2016 #325

A wasted progressive voice Loki May 2016 #171

He represents what we could have accomplished for the people. People don't like to be jtuck004 May 2016 #173

I agree jpmonk91 May 2016 #178

Calling Obama some form of nigger isn't an accomplishment uponit7771 May 2016 #187

Cornell West didn't call him that! jpmonk91 May 2016 #198

This is false on its face, "niggerized" is a form of nigger... I don't' live on planet Unicornia uponit7771 May 2016 #240

Some people have an agenda clearly. nt valerief May 2016 #174

Well you can be for racial equality and still attack someone who agrees with you Warpy May 2016 #180

Not by calling them some form of nigger, that's not for racial anything uponit7771 May 2016 #197

For the last time jpmonk91 May 2016 #202

Good we agree, he called him a FORM of nigger which isn't any better. uponit7771 May 2016 #210

OMG jpmonk91 May 2016 #220

We agree again, the people excusing this behavior of West will claim up and down they didn't uponit7771 May 2016 #224

That is funny, Warpy! Enthusiast May 2016 #266

Why all the fake confusion about Dr. West and flame bait OP's? The Polack MSgt May 2016 #201

Um no jpmonk91 May 2016 #207

He attacked my President. Don't need anything else. Laser102 May 2016 #203

Yeap, called Obama some form of nigger but that's acceptable to some people uponit7771 May 2016 #227

So, Presidents are 840high May 2016 #363

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #387

I don't hate him personally ismnotwasm May 2016 #204

Some people confuse loyalty to a CAUSE with loyalty to a person. Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #222

I've met Mr. West, read much of his writing, and . . FairWinds May 2016 #232

Finally jpmonk91 May 2016 #237

Of course not, once does not make a person nor does one believing it was isolated with West make it uponit7771 May 2016 #248

OMG jpmonk91 May 2016 #257

This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #353

Very well put, thanks . . FairWinds May 2016 #434

West made an arguable criticsm of Obama which is one thing forjusticethunders May 2016 #245

+1!!!! uponit7771 May 2016 #258

You think jpmonk91 May 2016 #261

West is persona non grata with black people. forjusticethunders May 2016 #268

Wrong jpmonk91 May 2016 #271

Yeah he has a nice message but calling the first black president forjusticethunders May 2016 #276

He is referring to how jpmonk91 May 2016 #280

That is some awesome twisting there. Egnever May 2016 #293

BULL FUCKIN SHIT!!! Calling Obama some form of nigger doesn't sit well with black folk at all uponit7771 May 2016 #342

How about if you fighting progressive keyboarder . . FairWinds May 2016 #267

It's like when Glen Back said that Obama has . . FairWinds May 2016 #273

Thank you! jpmonk91 May 2016 #282

He refused to brought to heel. onecaliberal May 2016 #278

This is the offense they rail over. mmonk May 2016 #294

I agree dad jpmonk91 May 2016 #296

I regards to cornel west's nigerization comment jpmonk91 May 2016 #295

Bullshit, we can read... he said Obama wasn't expressing disdain for white supremecy and he did uponit7771 May 2016 #339

Because he dared criticize Queen Hillary. Odin2005 May 2016 #303

I agree jpmonk91 May 2016 #304

Bullshit ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #327

He jumped the shark a while ago Politicub May 2016 #305

He uses some harsh language felix_numinous May 2016 #311

Yeah, "harsh language" is calling the president some form of nigger... glad that's what people... uponit7771 May 2016 #400

Because he is an embarrassment to progressives. frankieallen May 2016 #317

He has a doctorate jpmonk91 May 2016 #318

Ya, what does that mean? So does Michael savage frankieallen May 2016 #319

OMG jpmonk91 May 2016 #321

In theology. That's kind of embarassing. nt msanthrope May 2016 #366

OMG msanthrope! Egnever May 2016 #381

got my daughter threatened on this board last week... Jury let it stand. msanthrope May 2016 #396

Lovely Egnever May 2016 #422

Calling Obama ni*****zed is pretty pathetic. He can be your champion, he's not mine frankieallen May 2016 #322

Look jpmonk91 May 2016 #326

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #338

You should have saved your rhetorical question and just admitted you don't care for Obama ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #328

He is not the perfect president jpmonk91 May 2016 #330

Hopefully he's not "perfect", shit... he's human... no one needs "perfect" were faithful is more tha uponit7771 May 2016 #344

Because he isn't deferential to Obama. Ken Burch May 2016 #329

Exactly jpmonk91 May 2016 #331

Or he calls a black president some form of nigger and the "progressives" think it's appropriate?! uponit7771 May 2016 #337

No...it's just that Bernie supporters don't think it's all that matters about Dr. West. Ken Burch May 2016 #341

No it isn't, he's an asshole who OPENLY hates Obama because he didn't give him the right seating uponit7771 May 2016 #343

You don't know what you are talking about. kwassa May 2016 #347

It's one thing to say that, because Bernie had never considered running for president prior to 2014 Ken Burch May 2016 #348

I got the distinct impression .... kwassa May 2016 #354

I do listen and have tried to be responsive. Sorry if I'm not always good at conveying that. Ken Burch May 2016 #358

I agree also jpmonk91 May 2016 #371

I just sent you a private message on this. Ken Burch May 2016 #374

Thanks jpmonk91 May 2016 #462

A lot of black politico KNOW the "progressive" side of the left is no better racially then moderate uponit7771 May 2016 #405

.that^ 840high May 2016 #364

I used to admire Dr. West... Feathery Scout May 2016 #349

Cornell West would be more respected if he did not make up allegations Albertoo May 2016 #350

He criticized Obama. Before that, he was wonderful. Then, he liked Bernie better than Hillary, merrily May 2016 #351

You ask 'why his Cornel hated when he's a progressive?' == THAT's what gets him hated!!! cloudythescribbler May 2016 #355

Ah, I get it... "progressives" think its ok to call black people some form of nigger... ah ok... no uponit7771 May 2016 #399

from where in particular do u reason to the notion of using the 'n-word' or a close surrogate term? cloudythescribbler May 2016 #445

further seeing some of ur many other comments on this thread, I now know what ur referring to ... cloudythescribbler May 2016 #450

I have always enjoyed listening to West. Admire him. 840high May 2016 #359

How dare he have the backbone to stand up for his morals. JEB May 2016 #360

I greatly admire that. 840high May 2016 #365

Ab-so-fucking-lutely. nt JEB May 2016 #367

By calling Obama some form of nigger and saying he's something in "blackface"?! That's MORAL NOW?! uponit7771 May 2016 #401

A lot of us grew up looking to him as a God. HuckleB May 2016 #362

No, hes an asshole who started throwing shade on Obama because of seating arrangements and then uponit7771 May 2016 #404

Thanks for posting this. I was unaware of the rabid hatred toward a truly outstanding person. Judi Lynn May 2016 #373

Truly outstanding is calling Obama some form of nigger and saying he's blackfaced?! So progressive uponit7771 May 2016 #403

here's why: ericson00 May 2016 #375

Just go away jpmonk91 May 2016 #442

Because a lot of people on DU are personality cultists and are offended by insufficient loyalty. LeftyMom May 2016 #379

Or greatly offended by West calling Obama some form of nigger, I'm not happy people don't see that uponit7771 May 2016 #398

He used to be very popular here melman May 2016 #382

Until he called Obama some form of nigger, of course he was popular before that but the people uponit7771 May 2016 #397

Because he's a black man who isn't backing Clinton, of course Scootaloo May 2016 #383

This has nothing to do with Clinton and everything to do with Obama La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #394

Which is exactly why Sean King got the same sort of hate when he switched? Scootaloo May 2016 #437

no, he has been unrelenting the last 8 years. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #438

Exactly my point. Scootaloo May 2016 #440

i am Democrat who believes that people should not make up lies about the democratic president La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #463

Few understand the context of his remarks and simply think he called Obama the N word. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #389

People can read and understand calling Obama any form of nigger (with the er) is fucked up but the uponit7771 May 2016 #402

Learn the context. Start with Florynce Kennedy. West didn't call anyone the n word. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #406

I did see the context and he's still wrong, he said Obama was some form of nigger (with er) because uponit7771 May 2016 #408

He didn't call Barack Obama the N word no matter how much you wish it to be so. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #411

Strawman, never said he did... I said he called him a FORM of nigger and that's a fact that's uponit7771 May 2016 #413

I still don't think you understand the context of the word used. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #415

I don't tolerate racism from anyone in any form, I don't give a fuck about the context of the word uponit7771 May 2016 #418

West stayed loyal to principles rather than personalities. That's a crime among some "Democrats." Scuba May 2016 #407

Yeah, he's principled to call Obama some form of nigger (with er inflection) and so called.... uponit7771 May 2016 #409

I would not have picked the word he used, but then I'm not a black champion of civil rights. Scuba May 2016 #410

He used words like "blackface" Obama is "Zimmerman" globally and other choice terms to ... uponit7771 May 2016 #412

The policies of the ruling class kill millions yet some focus on the language used by their critics. Scuba May 2016 #424

Racist language is part of the ruling classes verbiage but again, excuse his racist ass'd verbiage uponit7771 May 2016 #427

He won't sit down, shut-up and fall in line. Oh and he speaks his mind. People HATE that. n/t leeroysphitz May 2016 #416

Exactly. polly7 May 2016 #417

He doesn't have to do any of that and not call Obama a form of nigger in front of mostly white peopl uponit7771 May 2016 #419

The truth sounds like hate to people that hate the truth. n/t leeroysphitz May 2016 #420

We agree, the truth about West is he's "shining" by throwing shade at Obama using racist terms ... uponit7771 May 2016 #421

39 times has the N word come up in this thread... and EVERY TIME, you posted it. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #423

Yeah, you're right... niggerized doesn't equal nigger so they're not the same thing :rolleyes: uponit7771 May 2016 #428

First correct thing you've posted. Not the same. One is a verb, the other a noun. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #436

Good, we agree.. racist assholes think the word is still something one would call a person... uponit7771 May 2016 #453

Psssst... you don't call people verbs. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #457

...then they grammar check you... uponit7771 May 2016 #458

Just as I thought. You still don't get the context. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #459

I don't know if anyone has shared this article with you gollygee May 2016 #425

As a Sanders supporter I can safely say romanic May 2016 #426

+1, that's EXACTLY what West has called Obama in so many words cause he felt slighted over uponit7771 May 2016 #429

OMG jpmonk91 May 2016 #441

I love him. nt Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #433

He is an egomaniac. nt arely staircase May 2016 #452

His outspoken criticism of Obama is seen as a betrayal by many. bluedigger May 2016 #464

Exactly jpmonk91 May 2016 #465

Calling the first black president some form of nigger (er enflection) is deplorable to progressives uponit7771 May 2016 #475

Because he hasn't come to heel yet? MrMickeysMom May 2016 #469

Or he called the first black president some form of nigger?! Jus a guess, seeing this thread the far uponit7771 May 2016 #474

Stop! jpmonk91 May 2016 #480

No, just an asshole who used racialized words that for some reason the "far left" accepts uponit7771 May 2016 #485

Far left jpmonk91 May 2016 #488

Nope, just stating facts... this thread is proof positive the "far left" is too tolerant of racist.. uponit7771 May 2016 #489

I'm starting to think jpmonk91 May 2016 #490

This thread is Exhibit 5,247,992 in ways that black folks and white "leftists" have little in common Number23 May 2016 #471

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #473

We have a lot in common jpmonk91 May 2016 #481

Because: Smarmie Doofus May 2016 #478

Not wanting the black president to be called some form of nigger isn't "OBSESSED" with anything uponit7771 May 2016 #486

It goes to Bernie's poor judgement of people with whom he surrounds himself redstateblues May 2016 #479

He does not worship Obama. alarimer May 2016 #487