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In reply to the discussion: Could this be the birth of Free Republic 2.0? [View all]glowing
(12,233 posts)And I'm saying this in a manner that I hope will be looked at as discussion and not a means to try and alert on my post:
My general sense of the site, which is very similar in many ways to DU, pre-2016 primary. Yeah, there may be a few assholes who want to swear and use potty mouth (almost in a flagrant FU to DU, even though most probably don't bother to use those words anyway, and some are just trolls in an on-line world)... So, don't click on those threads, they don't interest me.
I think, for many, they are overly progressive. They, we are the one's who were actively marching against the Iraq War because we knew it was all lies and bullshit. Many were fighting against the trade deals before they were shoved down America's throat. What I see, in particular, is a struggle for the heart of what is a "Democrat"? Corporate triangulation or progressive people's party... That is a real struggle and we see it on the committee votes on platform alone... The other MAJOR issue I see as an issue no one can escape from, is climate change. The fact that the USA isn't leading on this like we are racing to the moon is a disaster world wide over. We are nearly past the tipping point now. We need to policy and change
NOW. "Fracking" should be a 4-letter word for anyone who is liberal or progressive.
For me personally, I see a whole picture of interconnected issues that are emerging at a head all at once... And now is the time we can address those issues. I quite frankly don't give a rats ass who it is that takes this all on, and quite honestly, it's congress that actually writes laws and passes budgets, so push for a progressive legislative branch, and send the bills to Clinton's desk for all I care.
Ok, so what is emerging all at once is an environmental disaster on a world wide stage, a change in human need for manual labor to machine, computer, and robots doing the work, and a world that for better or worse has been forced into "globalization" at the same time that "capitlaism" is essentially "dead" (otherwise it wouldn't have to be propped up by govt tax monies every 10'yrs or so- we are a out to hit a recession from stagnation mainly because "main st"/ 99% never emerged out of the last recession in a manner that can keep a "consumer economy" flush with real labor money).
It's really time to be addressing on a global scale how to really deal with climate change effects and begin to do the work. (We can't frack our way into a future, the methane release is worse than burning coal powered plants). And we need a model of "living". What is a "good" life that allows everyone a decency to fundamentals of living a healthy, happy life? And as the "work labor" can decrease, what can we do with our "free time" to make our life experiences even more fulfilling? We need a new economic model that values wealth in an entirely different manner.
And who will lead? Even Bernie, as much as I love him, was only speaking to FDR terms of labor, work, value... And that's still very much based on a capitalistic model and supply/ demand economy that is unsustainable for our future on this planet. As it is now, I can have hope, but pessimism is beginning to weigh on me...
And I think, the deal with Bernie is that it was almost (or as some see it "stolen" , regardless, reality of the human mindset sees that the two presidential candidates are Trump and Clinton. And many of us can't hang on much longer piecemealing together an existence of barely squeezing by. It's really been quite awful for many people since the 2000's after the dot com crash. And now add on top of that the automation production wiping out even the cheap Chinese labor, and we are going to enter an extremely volatile environmental crisis with many people living already in "dire extremes" from the global economy and endless wars in the ME.
So, people react differently to the stress. People want to be critical. People want to be heard. And they need and outlet to do so... The tone will translation after the convention... Just give people time to adjust their "fight strategy" because progressive's are normally fighting against the machine; and we almost toppled that machine over... So, let people find their footing in a new political reality and how they keep that idea of "revolution" continuing in a way that brings about positive, meaningful changes that help everyone.
i think some of the blowback backwards and picking on another discussion board has a bit to do with people not falling in line. As they always say, it's nearly impossible to heard cats... And that's why we aren't Republicans.
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