What is your stance on burkinis or headscarves on French (or American) beaches (or streets)?

[underahedgerow]

156. Ah but there's the rub, you see. Is it force when centuries old creepy cult beliefs cause anyone to

adhere to the mores set up for them?

Are the women willing victims? Perhaps there's another phrase that's more appropriate.

What I find difficult to understand is why someone would defend a patriarchy's 'right' to enforce such nonsense on females in the first place. In a sense, anyone who is suggesting that these women are happy in their burkas and that they have this other right to wear what they want totally doesn't get the big picture.

You see, they don't have the right within their culture, to not wear this garment of horrors if they decide they want to go to the beach or to the pool. See what I mean?

One can't possibly think it's a really great thing for these women to be SO liberated that wow, NOW they get to go to the beach like western women! Granted they have to be draped in sheets and blankets, but look at their amazing freedoms! They've come so far!

Rather a bit like liberating the slaves under Lincoln I think. 'Hey now, you're FREE! But you can't vote, walk down the same side of the street, own property, , travel in THIS car on the train, look at a white man or speak to a white woman until you're spoken to first, or go to school or have a job. But dammit, be grateful you're FREE.' Circa 1865....

Just sayin'.