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In reply to the discussion: The only way to control soaring healthcare costs is to have single payer [View all]Yavin4
(35,512 posts)9. Understood, but that model is not pratical in most urban areas in America n/t
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The only way to control soaring healthcare costs is to have single payer [View all]
Yavin4
Oct 2016
OP
This is only 10% of the cost, the rest of it is doctors, pharma and hospital corps...
uponit7771
Oct 2016
#11
Good point and prolly why my HCI wouldn't pay for this medicine... if the HCI's pushed back on the
uponit7771
Oct 2016
#30
"Realistic goals" is why we're in the mess we're in. "Single payer is off the table," remember that?
Doremus
Oct 2016
#154
Insurance companies don't charge $141,300 for dual knee replacement. Doctors and hospitals do.
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2016
#97
The poster to whom I'm replying was arguing that ins. companies should be removed from the equation
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2016
#118
Right. And Medicare's rising costs are largely due to high drug prices here. n/t
pnwmom
Oct 2016
#96
I wonder though. Insurance companies are rotten, but so are some healthcare providers
OKNancy
Oct 2016
#6
The only path for single payer is for employers to stop offering health insurance as a benefit.
Yavin4
Oct 2016
#15
I agree. Incremental steps are going to be the best way - but tell that to people
ehrnst
Oct 2016
#31
Because the majority of Americans get their health care through their employers
Yavin4
Oct 2016
#108
Medicare was launched for a limited part of the population, with the costs hidden
ehrnst
Oct 2016
#64
Medicare is not 'single payer' - it involves private payers for Rx and things like hearing aids
ehrnst
Oct 2016
#146
I'm at a loss as to how a single payer system might jeopardize one's doctor choice.
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2016
#98
+1, the HC community would take a huge hit at first ... doctors, pharma and Hospital groups would ..
uponit7771
Oct 2016
#45
There should be a push for this at the state level. No good reason why blue states don't have it.
Chathamization
Oct 2016
#19
But it's not that simple, unfortunately. If it was, then it would have been done a long time ago.
ehrnst
Oct 2016
#20
You are correct. The more practical solution is to offer a Public Plan to folks who cannot afford
Yavin4
Oct 2016
#25
Congress DOES NOT have to care how loud we shout right now and the president is the least powerful
uponit7771
Oct 2016
#53
Trump's supporters believe that he can do things without congress that he can't actually do
ehrnst
Oct 2016
#147
We did not have a super controlling majority in either houses in congress... we get one then that
uponit7771
Oct 2016
#49
“To try to do it in one fell swoop would be massively disruptive" I agree, then do it piece meal in
uponit7771
Oct 2016
#47
I have been told that Single Payer is "the only way" to bring down costs, not to mention "simple."
ehrnst
Oct 2016
#106
Love Sanders, but Vermont ran from single payer as soon as they looked at the cost and figured out
Hoyt
Oct 2016
#55
They nixed it because of the taxes required. The carriers can only hike premiums if
Hoyt
Oct 2016
#77
Uncapped Medicare Part B premiums are increasing over 22% in 2017. That's a fact.
Hoyt
Oct 2016
#100
You would think that these people would be thrilled with the price for health insurance going up!
world wide wally
Oct 2016
#37
That's not all there is to it - there is the implementation of it which is a huge
ehrnst
Oct 2016
#69
I agree with you but, there is something that concerns me about single payer in the US.
napi21
Oct 2016
#103
So, multi-payer systems. Public driving the market FOR Private, not the other way around.
HughBeaumont
Oct 2016
#131
Medicare recipients still pay an average of 14% of their income on health care coverage and costs.
ehrnst
Oct 2016
#133
Part of it, but not the entire means to fix our mess of high costs for healthcare.
tonyt53
Oct 2016
#152