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cilla4progress

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34. You know you have the support of everyone on this board...

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:09 PM

Nov 2016

and we all feel the same as you do. There are no words at this point. Hopefully establishment Republicans at least will come to their senses.

I keep taking a historical view, because I guess it is my wont (I like history, that is to say). Here are some things I think history will say -- assuming there is history in 50 - 500 years:

* President Obama was far and away the best President in the post-WWII era on any number of metrics. His assent to the Presidency represented the best in our country. There is some question in looking back on whether it was / he is an anomaly.

* The craven establishment Republicans who supported Trump represent the worst. They, who know better, will be history's cruelest victims and criminals, looking back.

* The thug hordes who voted for Trump for his racism and misogyny, are not new. Populists, by any other name. History has warned about the power of these types, once in their hands, and our system of government has built in many safety valves to prevent this...none of which worked.

* The resisitance we are embarking on will succeed in some measure, and fail in others. It is not an overnight success. We will be in it for the long haul. The forces of regression are so much stronger than the forces of progress. Because power once concentrated is only exponentially harder to dispel.

* The curious thing to see will be the reaction of the hordes when they fully realize they've been hornswaggled. Lied to.

dunno...can you add to this list?

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I know that feeling. safeinOhio Nov 2016 #93

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Why Trump? DownriverDem Nov 2016 #33

You know you have the support of everyone on this board... cilla4progress Nov 2016 #34

Also horrified and still sleepless BSdetect Nov 2016 #35

I think we may need another constitutional Convention? kentuck Nov 2016 #117

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I'm not sure against whom... regnaD kciN Nov 2016 #133

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Here, Here.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2016 #138

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I am going to do the same. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #156