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4. Absolutely not. If they do, it tears at the legal foundation of a myriad of other social programs.

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Mon Jun 25, 2012, 05:54 PM

Jun 2012

It could be the beginning of the end for Medicaid and even Medicare.

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Would you like to see the Supreme Court strike down the individual mandate? [View all] Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 OP

to clarify, i think aca is not a great law, and the "mandate" is central to its problems unblock Jun 2012 #1

The 16th Amendment made income taxes constitutional. Laelth Jun 2012 #27

+1 nashville_brook Jun 2012 #30

but the "mandate" *is* an income tax because there's a poverty exemption. unblock Jun 2012 #34

Never before ... Laelth Jun 2012 #39

the income tax is replete with taxes you must pay, and many ways to reduce your taxes unblock Jun 2012 #41

It is an extra burden on a generation that's getting the "short end of the stick". MrTriumph Jun 2012 #2

I very much want it struck down.... mike_c Jun 2012 #3

Wrong ProSense Jun 2012 #7

a voucher that would increasingly shift the burden of paying for insurance... mike_c Jun 2012 #12

Or ProSense Jun 2012 #14

Employers can, however, get a waiver to allow them to provide shoddy coverage far below aca minimums LooseWilly Jun 2012 #25

Its cheaper for a company to drop their coverage and pay the fine. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #32

+1 Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #38

Absolutely not. If they do, it tears at the legal foundation of a myriad of other social programs. pnwmom Jun 2012 #4

No, Medicaid and Medicare have nothing to do with being mandated EFerrari Jun 2012 #17

Yes but I don't expect them to. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #5

imagine the pressure this money is putting on the supremes. nashville_brook Jun 2012 #33

MONEY FOR NOTHING! Those CEOs are disgusting individuals if they think that SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #36

Yes, ProSense Jun 2012 #6

so that's a no.... Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #10

Correct. What ProSense Jun 2012 #13

Medicaid was created in 1965. Established, if not settled, law by now. Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #16

Actually, ProSense Jun 2012 #19

Supreme Court unlikely to strike Medicaid expansion from Affordable Care Act Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #22

No. Without the mandate, they will be able to strike down the entire thing. dawg Jun 2012 #8

As a stand alone clause, yes.... if it takes other parts of the law with it, no. Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #9

I think the mandate is the foundation of the whole thing Bryn Jun 2012 #11

I see the mandate as a poison pill for the rest, the good parts will be eroded or discarded Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #15

Right there with you, Uncle Joe. EFerrari Jun 2012 #18

I hear you, EFerrari and considering the long term impact of Citizens United and the mandate, Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #21

I'm afraid what CU did in WI is only the smallest tip of the iceberg. n/t EFerrari Jun 2012 #23

I'm not really against the mandate, I fear the potential for future abuse of the mandate. HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #20

I'm still against it in principle but no I do not want it overturned, because I fear that a negative FLAprogressive Jun 2012 #24

I absolutely want the mandate struck down as unconstitutional. Laelth Jun 2012 #26

+1 leftstreet Jun 2012 #28

+1 Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #29

while i don't want to see Obama "suffer a setback," striking the Individual Mandate is the right nashville_brook Jun 2012 #31

No. I didn't have insurance for 4 years before ACA. And I want it to be 100% upheld... Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #35

Better than nothing.......Sad that we have to settled for better than nothing wrt to health care SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #37

it's a tough one for me... fascisthunter Jun 2012 #40