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Bernie To Dems: Stop Neglecting Trump Voters! [View all] Bigredhunk Mar 2017 OP

I am sorry nycbos Mar 2017 #1

I am sorry DefenseLawyer Mar 2017 #8

True that. I think many have buyer's remorse. Woo them back. n/t Beartracks Mar 2017 #30

Very well said. Rather than shrink the pool of possible Democratic voters, guillaumeb Mar 2017 #76

Unless we decide to hate them even more fervently Tiggeroshii Mar 2017 #134

Maybe they need to reach out to us... lame54 Mar 2017 #175

Just not true because many areas that went overwhelmingly for Obama twice, switched to trump. That manicraven Mar 2017 #31

Exactly. They voted for Obama twice but suddenly they're racists? SMC22307 Mar 2017 #63

They voted for... tonedevil Mar 2017 #77

Some did, not all. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #81

No, all did. Every one of them. Orrex Mar 2017 #107

Consider the source of their news, though. JudyM Mar 2017 #158

I see very little to suggest that they are potential voters next time around Orrex Mar 2017 #172

Recognizing that a decent chunk of the voters have a below-average IQ (more on 45's side than not), JudyM Mar 2017 #182

Great analysis. However I do think we can peel away a bit more than 5% of Deplorables. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #203

At what point... tonedevil Mar 2017 #208

You paint with a broad brush and in so doing deny the details. KPN Mar 2017 #137

No I can not... tonedevil Mar 2017 #207

I hear you and understand you. At the same time, I don't agree with your position KPN Mar 2017 #217

Ninety three percent of Obama voters voted for Hillary. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #82

With your attitude, Democrats will get NO WHERE, EVER. elleng Mar 2017 #44

Exactly! Democrats will be a lost party into the future. Democrats need to support everyone. Trump RKP5637 Mar 2017 #51

Yes indeed. elleng Mar 2017 #57

Dump did NOT mislead them NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #199

You're into Reality.. nothing wrong with that Attitude. Cha Mar 2017 #126

Hillary only got the votes of 2/3rds of Asians and Hispanics. Yo_Mama Mar 2017 #205

Yup this nt riderinthestorm Mar 2017 #219

Cause Russia had nothing to do with Clinton's loss? I'm sick of the ignore Russia crowd uponit7771 Mar 2017 #2

And, comey.. and voter Purging and Suppression.. Cha Mar 2017 #73

how quickly they forget. by 2020 it will be ancient history. nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2017 #97

It's weird, isn't it. But I guess it's hard for people to accept they were manipulated by wikileaks bettyellen Mar 2017 #115

Some of us are sick of the everything is hunky dory, Hillary/we won the popular vote crowd. KPN Mar 2017 #139

Strawman... No one is even attempting to feign perfection but you. Just not going to ignore reality uponit7771 Mar 2017 #180

No it's not. If there is a straw man, it's that KPN Mar 2017 #191

Another strawman, no one is saying the only reason she lost was cheating but you uponit7771 Mar 2017 #193

BS -- you aren't reading many posts then. KPN Mar 2017 #194

Im reading yours and the minimizing of Russia's effect on the election uponit7771 Mar 2017 #195

BS again. I have never minimized any of that stuff ... KPN Mar 2017 #196

False in its face, your strawmen ... Not mine uponit7771 Mar 2017 #197

Okay, you win. KPN Mar 2017 #198

No, putting all the eggs in the Russia basket is a mistake. alarimer Mar 2017 #166

We agree, that's why they had Comey and voter suppression as a back up uponit7771 Mar 2017 #181

Sanders means well .. ananda Mar 2017 #3

+1 bluedye33139 Mar 2017 #40

There are a small percent of them we might be able to peel off, maybe 10% -20%. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #85

Even 10% would be plenty. Jim Lane Mar 2017 #112

I don't suggest calling them Deplorables to their face. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #114

When you call them that on a public board, you're calling them that to their faces. (n/t) Jim Lane Mar 2017 #124

Censoring myself is not something I can do. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #155

I disagree. Some are lost causes, but many are not. KPN Mar 2017 #140

Hekate to Bernie:YOU take care of the Trump voters!The rest of us are hanging on by our fingernails Hekate Mar 2017 #4

Does he mean grovel and apologize? I'm not taking the post that way. manicraven Mar 2017 #33

They WON. They got everything they thought they wanted. Sorest bunch of winners in the land. Hekate Mar 2017 #62

Bernie is taking care of their feelings. He's going to them with the message the Democratic Party KPN Mar 2017 #143

We never did live in an idyllic world nolabels Mar 2017 #152

It would have been 5 million but for voter suppression Cary Mar 2017 #34

Yep. It should be unacceptable. kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2017 #50

HELL yes! Hekate Mar 2017 #52

Hekate to Bernie:YOU take care of the Trump voters!The rest of us are hanging on by our fingernails. LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #54

We have the superior product Cary Mar 2017 #74

Mahalo Hekate.. we don't need any more lectures from BS.. Tom & Keith have this.. Cha Mar 2017 #127

+1 Skidmore Mar 2017 #169

You're Welcome, Skidmore Cha Mar 2017 #171

That's BS. Nobody wants you or anyone to grovel to anybody. You know that. KPN Mar 2017 #142

Has he lost his mind? bravenak Mar 2017 #5

Just what we need right now, more friendly fire, just what the doctor ordered. JHan Mar 2017 #56

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So you think any suggestion of how to improve our tactics is "attacking us"? Jim Lane Mar 2017 #86

Oh. So I should try to kowtow to folks who voted to deport my relatives, because????? bravenak Mar 2017 #95

No. What you should do is stop with the idiotic straw-man arguments. Jim Lane Mar 2017 #102

There are several responses a liberal can make towards trump voters JHan Mar 2017 #116

Of those responses, I reject pandering. I also reject dismissing and ignoring. Jim Lane Mar 2017 #135

No it was not a strawman.. JHan Mar 2017 #141

You've misunderstood my argument about the straw man Jim Lane Mar 2017 #211

I know we agree on the basics but the point is focus: JHan Mar 2017 #212

Great post! Right on., Thanks for taking the time to articulate that so well. KPN Mar 2017 #145

Good points and well made. mountain grammy Mar 2017 #177

Like we need any lectures from BS.. Tom & Keith got this Cha Mar 2017 #129

No. KPN Mar 2017 #144

STFU! Perez and Ellison only just got started. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #6

Bernie, a request. kstewart33 Mar 2017 #7

+1 bluedye33139 Mar 2017 #42

Why? Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #69

Good question. KPN Mar 2017 #146

+1000. Paladin Mar 2017 #93

What am I supposed to do for them? world wide wally Mar 2017 #9

Yes DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #10

Lulz nt Quayblue Mar 2017 #46

this..nt heaven05 Mar 2017 #80

There was probably a time standingtall Mar 2017 #11

They hate brown people, Bernie. Adrahil Mar 2017 #12

50 state strategy. Thought it was popular. bunnies Mar 2017 #13

And it will be again Cirque du So-What Mar 2017 #17

Howard Dean actually implemented that strategy but many Sanders supporters turned on him KittyWampus Mar 2017 #27

Dean was very good as the DNC chair. Caliman73 Mar 2017 #48

Do you really want allies to 'shut up'? Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #70

Allies do not constantly trash sheshe2 Mar 2017 #83

What if what he is saying is absolutely correct? Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #90

Constantly trashing our DEMOCRATIC PARTY is not the way to go. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #94

Sanders statement wasn't so harsh... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #98

He did not "want to cut social security". bettyellen Mar 2017 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Mar 2017 #147

That is a false BainsBane Mar 2017 #167

Yep Go Vols Mar 2017 #213

He sees Democratic lawmakers everyday BainsBane Mar 2017 #165

Yeah, me too gratuitous Mar 2017 #19

You make a good point. I was 100% behind Hillary in the Primary Blue_true Mar 2017 #39

True that Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #84

I think you're mistaken. lapucelle Mar 2017 #128

+1!!! THIS Dustlawyer Mar 2017 #60

Interesting observations Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #87

Agree! mountain grammy Mar 2017 #179

I agree Johonny Mar 2017 #21

No, they're not. At least not all of them. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #61

who said it wasn't? And when Howard Dean entered the 'race' for DNC chair KittyWampus Mar 2017 #26

Another good point. If we spend more time and resources Blue_true Mar 2017 #64

Exactly - everyone on this freaking board was a fan of this approach bullwinkle428 Mar 2017 #168

But Bernie said it so... bunnies Mar 2017 #186

whatever... stillcool Mar 2017 #14

Love ya Bern, but we're in the middle of a street-fight right now... VOX Mar 2017 #15

When they stop ignoring themselves, then I will stop ignoring them. nikibatts Mar 2017 #16

Of course that's not actually what he said melman Mar 2017 #18

- Bigredhunk Mar 2017 #24

No. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #88

- Bigredhunk Mar 2017 #121

Huff is known for sensationalizing an article on their front page. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #122

- Bigredhunk Mar 2017 #123

And, thank you for that, Bigredhunk Cha Mar 2017 #125

just read the whole piece. Sanders has a whole spiel quoted where he attacks the Democratic party. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #29

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Completely Agree Occulus onyxw Mar 2017 #119

Are there not enough voters with common sense and brain cells? ecstatic Mar 2017 #20

Exactly! Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #104

There are legit reasons to speak to the swing voters who went for Trump. Dawson Leery Mar 2017 #22

Agreed. The true Pro-Trump voters will likely never vote Democratic. Freethinker65 Mar 2017 #45

I don't disagree with him TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #23

I agree. The people who voted for Obama (some twice) are not racist. They just had not felt any of manicraven Mar 2017 #41

Nope sorry. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #91

So we cede the PNW, New England, Minnesota and Colorado? cemaphonic Mar 2017 #136

That's a good way to keep losing, mathematically. alarimer Mar 2017 #170

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Ok. How do we love them? Let's count the ways: (1) Build the wall, (2) Kill Obamacare, (3) ... dalton99a Mar 2017 #28

Simmer down, folks, he's calling for the 50 state strategy Warpy Mar 2017 #32

Which Democrat is not aware we need a 50 state strategy? Hasn't Ellison and Perez talked about this? JHan Mar 2017 #35

Has Perez actually done anything about it? Warpy Mar 2017 #37

When was the vote* again? JHan Mar 2017 #43

Perez and Ellison are touring together starting on March 24th. JTFrog Mar 2017 #65

Thank you, Frog! Cha Mar 2017 #72

You don't know what you're talking about.. please try to keep up and quit Cha Mar 2017 #71

I insulted no one. I asked if he's done anything about it. Warpy Mar 2017 #99

you haven't been paying attention or you wouldn't have thrown your Cha Mar 2017 #106

I see. You'd rather insult than answer. Warpy Mar 2017 #109

You're the one who insulted Tom Perez and Keith Ellison.. I've been keeping Cha Mar 2017 #110

Perez is a life-long Democrat who is now DNC chair. LuvLoogie Mar 2017 #75

Some here dislike ideas that work when they come from a particular source Occulus Mar 2017 #59

Oh do they? what ideas are those? For our Cha Mar 2017 #151

No standingtall Mar 2017 #38

Umm...that's not correct. Studies are stating otherwise. manicraven Mar 2017 #49

False standingtall Mar 2017 #53

"only 7 percent of Obama voters flipped to support Trump, and the real number could be even less" dalton99a Mar 2017 #58

Yes! Spot on! We lost 910 seats! We do need better outreach! manicraven Mar 2017 #47

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Consider the worst Democrat in office right now, Manchin (D-WV) Warpy Mar 2017 #103

Democrats Tom Perez and Keith Ellison have this.. I'm Cha Mar 2017 #89

+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2017 #111

yeah okay. JHan Mar 2017 #36

Glad to see you agree. SMC22307 Mar 2017 #66

Most people do, there's already an acknowledgement we need to become a party of local government... JHan Mar 2017 #68

I prefer a party that doesn't value a few thousand white male Republicans BainsBane Mar 2017 #159

I agree with Senator Sanders - Dems need to be in the red states as well. Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #67

Tom and Keith have this.. Democrats Perez, Ellison embark on unity tour Cha Mar 2017 #78

Democrats HAVE neglected parts of this country democrank Mar 2017 #92

Maybe Trump voters should show some reasons why they should be paid attention to! hrmjustin Mar 2017 #101

I bet most people calling for us liquid diamond Mar 2017 #105

Well said. What we need to go after the 47% who didn't vote for one reason or another still_one Mar 2017 #113

NO!!!. Everyone who voted for trump knew he was a racist, sexist, and xenophobe, and they still_one Mar 2017 #108

There are plenty of people who voted for Obama and chose tRump. Should we give up on their future JudyM Mar 2017 #164

The future isn't a trump supporter. The 47% who didn't vote are still_one Mar 2017 #178

So voting for 45 is a litmus test for voters we should appeal to? Forget the ones who voted Obama? JudyM Mar 2017 #183

Where we need to focus is on the 47% who didn't bother to vote. That is where still_one Mar 2017 #184

Yawn. Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #118

I don't want anything to do with them gwheezie Mar 2017 #120

Good Thread CitizenZero Mar 2017 #130

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They voted for Trump. It's just a normal mistake anybody makes. Like dropping a baby on its' head. Tiggeroshii Mar 2017 #132

Hey Bernie! Stop worrying about Trump voters and worry about Russia for a change leftofcool Mar 2017 #133

I can worry about more than one thing -- and Bernie is smarter than I am. (n/t) Jim Lane Mar 2017 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Mar 2017 #162

I have never heard Bernie mention Russian interference BainsBane Mar 2017 #163

And we have yet ANOTHER straw man. Jim Lane Mar 2017 #210

Let BS go after the racist, misogynistic, homophobes.. Our Dems are doing Cha Mar 2017 #150

Preach the truth Bernie! KPN Mar 2017 #148

Is Bernie ever going to mention the million or so BainsBane Mar 2017 #161

You create a false choice. In my opinion, KPN Mar 2017 #188

You go after those racist, homophobic, misogynistic, bigoted, assholes, BS.. Our Cha Mar 2017 #149

He needs to come to the NJ -7th district JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #153

I'm uninterested in what a white, male, non-Dem Senator from a racially-homogenized state has to msanthrope Mar 2017 #154

It's a fair point. 50-state strategy was the way to go. Orsino Mar 2017 #156

I don't know, he couldn't even get his BoBers to vote for the Democrat, not seeing seaglass Mar 2017 #157

Isn't that the truth. BainsBane Mar 2017 #160

Good point kcr Mar 2017 #174

+1 Jamaal510 Mar 2017 #216

I don't have to give bigotry a chance. ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #173

The position he has that he's presumably using for all of these "town halls" and appearances... George II Mar 2017 #176

You're correct! It's NOT going to work... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #185

pretty clear to me forjusticethunders Mar 2017 #204

I do not disagree with you at all. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #209

So, according to the good Senator, I am to extend heaven05 Mar 2017 #187

+1,000,000,000 ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #189

you are welcome heaven05 Mar 2017 #221

+1000 sheshe2 Mar 2017 #218

thank you heaven05 Mar 2017 #220

Trump voters are racist haters and religious fanatics workinclasszero Mar 2017 #190

A number of them are single issue voters. Anti-choice being a major culprit. ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #192

Bingo workinclasszero Mar 2017 #214

It's strategy, not sympathy! LAS14 Mar 2017 #200

Only progressive policies can save us now Fluke a Snooker Mar 2017 #201

Christ, not this shit again... Nope, sorry... Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #202

I don't want to neglect them MFM008 Mar 2017 #206

After they pulled this shit yesterday? Hell no!! Initech Mar 2017 #215

How Many of Us Say These Things on Consrvative Sites? Tom the Mechanic Mar 2017 #222

K and R Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #223