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Amaryllis

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143. It all depends on what media they are consuming; that determines what universe they inhabit.

Tue May 2, 2017, 10:04 PM

May 2017

You have to consider people's media sources.Those who think
they are getting objective truth from FAUX, etc. live in an alternative universe that rarely, if ever, intersects with the one you and I live in. I know intelligent people who watch FAUX and they think my sources are as fake as I think FAUX is. We cannot talk politics at all because we have no common ground from which to approach it. One friend whom I have known for 50 years - since college- very reluctantly voted for Trump because she was convinced Hillary was a criminal and would destroy the country; based on the info she had and believed was true, she had good reason to believe this. FAUX painted Hillary to be much worse than Trump.

I don't know how she feels now; I have not been able to bring myself to talk to her since the election. But it is important not to dismiss everyone who voted for him as racist, misogynist, etc. and to be aware of the powerful, insidious and extremely destructive influence of right wing media. I have learned that I cannot judge everyone who is taken in by right wing media as stupid, much as it is difficult for me to understand them. They literally live in a different world. But they are not all stupid, by any means, nor are they all sexist, racist, etc. It is critical to understand that they live in a parallel universe with alternative facts; they have very different information than we have. They may be hypnotized, but that is not the same as being stupid or racist.

Also remember, Russia was actively involved in spreading dis-info about Hillary.

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I know this is going to be unpopular but I am friends with and I understand many Trump supporters [View all] tecelote May 2017 OP

Recommended. guillaumeb May 2017 #1

Correct. Without them, we lose. tecelote May 2017 #90

Your argument is that THEY made a terrible mistake, so WE need to compromise to accomodate Squinch May 2017 #99

I just talk to them. They are my neighbors. tecelote May 2017 #107

They are my family. I know them. They aren't actually listening to you any more than they're Squinch May 2017 #116

Like you my family members are pretty much unreachable and I will not even try GulfCoast66 May 2017 #157

Do they ever watch fox news or listen to conservative radio? sharedvalues May 2017 #352

What do you think we need to do to stem the losses nationally and win elections? Red Oak May 2017 #259

Reach out to Sanders supporters, not Trump supporters. Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #319

Well, since you ask. I didn't think this first point needed to be said but obviously it does given Squinch May 2017 #339

It all depends on what media they are consuming; that determines what universe they inhabit. Amaryllis May 2017 #143

+1 nt riderinthestorm May 2017 #165

Exactly the cyclical brick wall I encounter attempting to make discussion with the Faux-faithful lambchopp59 May 2017 #185

I have noticed how much the local TV newshas influence, mainley the 10 & 11 PM Jim Beard May 2017 #222

I'm really frustrated with our campaigns for this reason though. What you say is not Squinch May 2017 #340

So you're saying we just didn't TALK TO THEM ENOUGH last year?? We hid our ideas, plans, and WinkyDink May 2017 #216

Don't think that is what OP is saying at all. Just saying don't NOT talk to them if they are willing Amaryllis May 2017 #346

They may feel betrayed by Trump but they would vote for Pence in a heartbeat PaulRevere08 May 2017 #331

Not really Warpy May 2017 #160

Thank you. That's correct. (End of discussion.) NurseJackie May 2017 #271

Fuck them. Fantastic Anarchist May 2017 #313

They're coming around? How? What do you see that tells you this? calimary May 2017 #324

They need to pay attention to the news and what is happening in the world ksoze May 2017 #2

Exactly LoveMyCali May 2017 #57

That was my impression as well upon reading the OP hamsterjill May 2017 #108

That's another thing that gets me going LoveMyCali May 2017 #113

Nailed it. sheshe2 May 2017 #180

It's been like this since the dawn of the republic. GreenEyedLefty May 2017 #228

+1 treestar May 2017 #234

Yes, exactly. NastyRiffraff May 2017 #252

Great post! hamsterjill May 2017 #266

That's a +100. HughBeaumont May 2017 #186

Same here. we can do it May 2017 #151

++++++++ uppityperson May 2017 #192

There are many, many, millions of people sammythecat May 2017 #305

And Fox "News" does NOT count. VOX May 2017 #115

SO much "yes" jayschool2013 May 2017 #246

What has the "label" become? Solly Mack May 2017 #3

Ask Fox News BadgerMom May 2017 #54

They should have paid more attention before the election frazzled May 2017 #4

I'm with Frazzled. Every Trump voter should be ashamed of themselves. davekriss May 2017 #162

If they voted for racists trump they are a deplorable POS just like him... stonecutter357 May 2017 #5

"These people are not bigots or sexist pigs. They are good solid Americans. " nini May 2017 #6

Well said. Norbert9 May 2017 #33

this obamanut2012 May 2017 #34

Agreed. The horrid "Grab Em" tape was everywhere, they could not have missed it. Laurian May 2017 #44

+++ agree. they may have good hearts, but they let politics override it. That's sad. iluvtennis May 2017 #46

I'm sorry, but how can anyone truly have "a good heart" and still vote for that pos? catbyte May 2017 #334

The media they consume brainwashes/hypnotizes them. Consequently, they are in a trance and Amaryllis May 2017 #348

Exactly shenmue May 2017 #47

Agree to disagree RecoveringJournalist May 2017 #48

What is in them that the racism and misogyny of fox is tolerated? nini May 2017 #65

It is herd mentality. sheshe2 May 2017 #114

I feel they won't change either nini May 2017 #179

I read at Discussionist. sheshe2 May 2017 #182

I prefer smart people nini May 2017 #183

With ya! sheshe2 May 2017 #190

with you too nini CountAllVotes May 2017 #219

This is what I say, too. herding cats May 2017 #201

My husband used to watch Fox - out of habit. LeftInTX May 2017 #240

Yes. Squinch May 2017 #62

Yes, OP is trying to justify people who voted for Trump BECAUSE he said racist things anneboleyn May 2017 #66

A BIG reason why tRump voters are that way is because of lazy profit-driven media. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #76

Your loss. tecelote May 2017 #96

Not really nini May 2017 #155

I do not understand your comment to nini. sheshe2 May 2017 #189

Point. Although -- distrust of education is familial/cultural, corporately sponsored, and why. byronius May 2017 #112

I understand nini May 2017 #167

I just can't agree in total GulfCoast66 May 2017 #169

Have a nice evening too nini May 2017 #178

THIS HughBeaumont May 2017 #171

++++++++ uppityperson May 2017 #193

They know exactly what they voted for & now they have "it" CountAllVotes May 2017 #213

Thank you! Truth well told!! rury May 2017 #344

if they don't pay attention why do they want change ? JI7 May 2017 #7

+1 leftstreet May 2017 #12

They voted Republican. tecelote May 2017 #79

why don't you answer the question about what they thought of the attacks on hispanics JI7 May 2017 #85

Most of them are Hispanic and Women. tecelote May 2017 #88

all the minorities amd women who voted for trump are Bigots JI7 May 2017 #91

Your neighbors. Not mine. tecelote May 2017 #95

my neighbors didn't vote for trump and i wouldn't excuse those who did JI7 May 2017 #97

Same thing happened in Texas DFW May 2017 #164

You get no argument outta me. TexasProgresive May 2017 #8

+1! tecelote May 2017 #31

It would be easier to accept their regrets had TRUMP NOT BECOME POTUS. NOW IT'S TOO DAMN LATE. WinkyDink May 2017 #73

Give up on them. tecelote May 2017 #92

That seems a bit disingenuous. TexasProgresive May 2017 #227

They aren't down JustAnotherGen May 2017 #118

+ infinity sheshe2 May 2017 #149

This a million times. THEY HAVE WON. So they should go ahead and outlaw abortion. Do it. Nay May 2017 #196

So my right to own my own body has to take a back seat, as a 'wedge issue.' What are YOU going to Squinch May 2017 #150

Amen squinch! n/t JustAnotherGen May 2017 #279

So they are the good Germans? The ones who just wanted Germany to be great again? Are they defending The Wielding Truth May 2017 #168

Excellent analogy! JustAnotherGen May 2017 #280

Okay, so they're good solid Americans. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #9

+1 Norbert9 May 2017 #36

+ another 1 nt riderinthestorm May 2017 #175

Willful ignorance is not a defense. nikibatts May 2017 #10

The facts were there!!! atreides1 May 2017 #11

Well, Terrific Leith May 2017 #13

So they voted for change, and against a label? leftstreet May 2017 #14

Thank you. We can hope. nt babylonsister May 2017 #15

Good people can be bad citizens Martin Eden May 2017 #16

Question.... Thomas Hurt May 2017 #17

A-fricking-men! raccoon May 2017 #232

Trump promoted this view Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #233

And what, exactly, is the "direction" they think the country is going? stopbush May 2017 #18

I am trying to find the words to say that this post is completely... hrmjustin May 2017 #19

Brevity is the soul of wit. :-) WinkyDink May 2017 #75

So OP Ccarmona May 2017 #20

the 2% who are sorry for their vote may be good people. my personal trumpkin mopinko May 2017 #21

I'm sorry but change just for change's sake is ignorance. NewDealProgressive May 2017 #22

So true... You need to make sure you are making a positive change and not a negative one n/t Zing Zing Zingbah May 2017 #78

First you say... sheshe2 May 2017 #23

Exactly. And yet they spout the latest Fox News memes elias7 May 2017 #52

Brilliant deconstruction of a foolish OP. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #316

I agree with you. It's very hard to take the rage but we have to to make progress. nolabear May 2017 #24

... Kali May 2017 #69

Agree. Well said. Amaryllis May 2017 #140

+1 KTM May 2017 #142

Fear. That's exactly it. athena May 2017 #176

Okay, how? nolabear May 2017 #243

I don't know, and I really would like to know. athena May 2017 #247

Take it from a pro. Shaming reinforces opinion. nolabear May 2017 #261

Thank you for this thoughtful response. athena May 2017 #278

Oh you absolutely can and should disagree! nolabear May 2017 #292

Thank you! athena May 2017 #294

It's worth a try. And frankly I fail a lot. nolabear May 2017 #296

+1 KTM May 2017 #300

I think this is worth its own OP, nolabear steve2470 May 2017 #298

Amen. Thanks for kicking in. nolabear May 2017 #303

But shaming isn't only aimed at one person; it's also to get others to see how bad the behaviour is muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #309

I don't have time to address all the disagreement I have but nolabear May 2017 #317

I'm merely tolerant of their nonsense and they know it. hunter May 2017 #25

If you sleep well at night that's the most important thing Va Lefty May 2017 #26

I sleep at night because I bring them closer to the truth. tecelote May 2017 #42

They committed a crime against America and against the norms of liberal democracy. they need to be KingCharlemagne May 2017 #320

I know one Trump supporter. athena May 2017 #27

THIS!! RecoveringJournalist May 2017 #55

I live in a rural farming and ranching community that went Trump Mountain Mule May 2017 #28

Thank you. tecelote May 2017 #49

You can't claim to not pay attention while simultaneously saying you want change. onecaliberal May 2017 #29

General direction? dugog55 May 2017 #30

EXACTLY. But the "good" people blame Obama. Gee I wonder why?! I don't buy OP's narrative anneboleyn May 2017 #93

No, these people are bigots and sexist pigs obamanut2012 May 2017 #32

You know assholes. tecelote May 2017 #53

He knows Trump voters. Squinch May 2017 #100

BINGO! Mountain Mule May 2017 #139

Well said. Thank you. watrwefitinfor May 2017 #226

If someone supports Trump saying "Grab them by the pussy", they are sexist. uppityperson May 2017 #195

Sorry I don't buy it Seasider May 2017 #35

Exactly. It also was no mystery that trump is a racist and bigot. People who voted still_one May 2017 #205

I have a Trump supporter as a friend too. gelatinous cube May 2017 #37

But, now is the time. tecelote May 2017 #56

Well, he's going to be stuck with me for another 4 years gelatinous cube May 2017 #109

Young people better understand that their forever conservative families are responsible for choosing onecaliberal May 2017 #197

Actually, you're wrong....and so are most people here. brooklynite May 2017 #38

what do they say about his attacks on hispanics blacks women etc ? JI7 May 2017 #39

I hate Trump. Make no mistake. tecelote May 2017 #60

why didn't you answer my question ? JI7 May 2017 #64

You asked the same question above and I answered... tecelote May 2017 #102

That's not an answer to why they voted for him JI7 May 2017 #130

My best guess, they were foolish and bought the "establishment" rhetoric? herding cats May 2017 #146

i don't think it makes them any different from typical trump voter. in the end they still voted for JI7 May 2017 #188

I read through the thread a bit more after replying here and below. herding cats May 2017 #191

I live in in NM rusty fender May 2017 #202

Oh, this makes sense, New Mexico went for Hillary. herding cats May 2017 #135

I can tell you what "they" say about Trump's attacks on women Mountain Mule May 2017 #106

Giving up on women's rights is NOT going to make things better either. Or gay rights, or the rights Squinch May 2017 #163

Excuse me? Mountain Mule May 2017 #174

No, I don't owe you an apology. I'm pointing out that this "reach across the aisle" that is Squinch May 2017 #177

I have never advocated compromising values, either Mountain Mule May 2017 #184

If you're going to take umbrage and demand apologies when people expand upon your points Squinch May 2017 #338

Yes, but what so they say about his attacks on those specific groups? herding cats May 2017 #131

TRUMP MOCKED THE HANDICAPPED SHRED May 2017 #40

They weren't listening. tecelote May 2017 #58

They are the ones hating by voting for the bigot JI7 May 2017 #67

"Waking up" in time to attend a Trump rally. WinkyDink May 2017 #217

"They voted to change the status quo" "They just voted Republican like they always did" muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #225

Can you explain what they want? procon May 2017 #41

I generally think you have it right, tecelote! True Dough May 2017 #43

"Don't accuse every single person on the other side of being a bigot or a misogynist." tecelote May 2017 #63

How to explain their voting for a bigot/misogynist? WinkyDink May 2017 #77

I will never have anything to do with people that stupid. nt elmac May 2017 #45

My husband voted for Trump LeftInTX May 2017 #50

There are a lot of people like your husband. tecelote May 2017 #70

My parents are NJ Republicans Dorian Gray May 2017 #230

Many people who voted for Trump are just lifelong Republicans LeftInTX May 2017 #239

And who cares if he did Dorian Gray May 2017 #347

Your husband doesn't believe a person athena May 2017 #254

He really is a good guy LeftInTX May 2017 #349

I think some people just assume that all women love and want children. athena May 2017 #350

Thx.. LeftInTX May 2017 #351

Are you saying they never watched TV -- even Fox? Or listened to the radio? pnwmom May 2017 #51

It's quie possible they never watch any news, or ONLY watch local. My husband never watches any napi21 May 2017 #101

NOBODY who voted for Trump had America's best interest in mind. aeromanKC May 2017 #59

The key phrase is everyone interested in change for the better. kacekwl May 2017 #61

What you said. We know some. Can only be acquainted in a limited way. sprinkleeninow May 2017 #214

Those aren't the Trumpers I know. My family members are Trumpers... Honeycombe8 May 2017 #68

+1 You have a sober calm assessment of the state of mind of many Trump voters. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #71

"...they do not like the direction the country is going." And what way, under Obama, would that be? WinkyDink May 2017 #72

They hated that blacks, Muslims, Jews, Hispanics , women, and glbtq people were treated with dignity DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #258

I sadly agree RecoveringJournalist May 2017 #74

FTS. Pardon my French. I give NO QUARTER to Republicans, whatever the hell their "ONLY" is. WinkyDink May 2017 #83

Ok RecoveringJournalist May 2017 #103

You can do that while striving to understand their mindset at the same time. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #161

Intelligent people already get the "mindset" of the ignorant. They aren't tough nuts to WinkyDink May 2017 #220

Intelligent people realize it's not that simple. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #231

Do you think a majority of Trump voters harbor reactionary views ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #314

More or less, but, again, it is not that simple. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #318

I elaborated... DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #321

You edited it after I had seen it / began composing my reply and before I hit Post Reply. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #322

Sorry about that. Please check both my responses. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #323

Ships in the night happen from time to time. Posted #325 to one response. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #326

I can certainly agree that most arguments (including that one and many of mine) are simplistic. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #328

Thanks for your kind words. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #330

The edited body of your post makes same confusion as another poster. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #325

Counterpoint NCDem777 May 2017 #80

Great post. This is what I see too. Squinch May 2017 #137

On another point NCDem777 May 2017 #170

How did we get here? How does someone look at their crumbling bridge and not realize that they Squinch May 2017 #172

This makes me wish I could rec a post. I, too, live among them, and know exactly what you mean. Tarheel_Dem May 2017 #199

I experience the same from trump voters, as I say in my response see 211. Lyricalinklines May 2017 #212

Sorry but this is the biggest pile of shit that I have seen shoveled here in the past year. William769 May 2017 #81

Preach! WinkyDink May 2017 #87

Right on William amuse bouche May 2017 #110

Amen to that!! rury May 2017 #345

What does that look like? What does it look like when we "stop excluding people and putting them Squinch May 2017 #82

Explain this to me rufus dog May 2017 #84

Maybe you could poll these friends and find out the direction they want the US to head.. Tikki May 2017 #86

Yes exactly. Because a booming economy (saved by Obama from a historic disaster), Squinch May 2017 #94

Basically, you assert that one must be 'labeled' D or R in order to exercise their right to vote.. MedusaX May 2017 #89

One of the primary responsibilities of being a US Citizen is to be informed about the issues mtngirl47 May 2017 #98

By the time Trumps done there won't be enough of the status quo to recognize... Historic NY May 2017 #104

They're ignorant because they're generally incurious. And, sad to say, Goodheart May 2017 #105

I know plenty of them too. I hate them more than I hate trump amuse bouche May 2017 #111

Exactly. They don't have to be ALL of those things... Phentex May 2017 #249

Good. Solid. Americans. Then what the fuck are we? TeamPooka May 2017 #117

Hey I get what you're saying Zorro May 2017 #119

I know this is going to be unpopular but I am friends with and I understand many Trump supporters. LenaBaby61 May 2017 #120

I'm friends with several Trump supporters... lame54 May 2017 #121

Sorry, I'm not buying any of this either. . . Stargleamer May 2017 #122

To every dumb fuck aged 18 to 88 who voted for Trump: KISS MY ASS. dalton99a May 2017 #123

Precisely. n/t VOX May 2017 #125

WaPo: Only 3% of Trump voters regret their vote VOX May 2017 #124

if they don't pay attention how do they know which way the country is going... lame54 May 2017 #126

Be realistic about this ... world wide wally May 2017 #127

While I applaud your defense ... NanceGreggs May 2017 #128

+1 dalton99a May 2017 #132

Yes! This NastyRiffraff May 2017 #269

That is not my experience with the trump voters I know radical noodle May 2017 #129

The Trump supporters that I know are puritan racist Christians who believe God gave us Donald Trump. Zen Democrat May 2017 #133

If you pull the lever for an open bigot, all bets are off...w/me jaysunb May 2017 #134

It's the only way I can deal with my family. Atman May 2017 #136

GREAT post. KTM May 2017 #138

I have no more fucks to give about "Trump Voters". If they could still vote for him after the.... Tarheel_Dem May 2017 #141

Your friends are all assholes. Vinnie From Indy May 2017 #144

Trump voters are scum. johnp3907 May 2017 #145

Anybody who voted for a man ismnotwasm May 2017 #147

Yes. As well THEY should is right. Squinch May 2017 #152

Military Veteran? Check. Raising kids? Check. Herding cattle? Er...nope. LuvLoogie May 2017 #148

A few of them might not be assholes, most are deplorable bigots. we can do it May 2017 #153

I have said this directly to Trump supporters who are friends of mine stevenleser May 2017 #154

Fuck this shit. nt LexVegas May 2017 #156

Take Wisconsin. The Walker/trump voters are letting a great university system be decimated. LuvLoogie May 2017 #158

Yes. Well said. Squinch May 2017 #166

Perfect LoveMyCali May 2017 #308

"These people are not bigots or sexist pigs..." The dog ate their homework. hay rick May 2017 #159

The only thing I've noticed about people I know who voted for Trump Mr.Bill May 2017 #173

I have a lot of avoided conversations with the very few Trump supporters that I still talk to. hay rick May 2017 #203

Yes, agreed. The Dem party needs to expand outreach riderinthestorm May 2017 #181

Yeah, you're right, This is not popular. Aristus May 2017 #187

"They voted to change the status quo" lambchopp59 May 2017 #194

These supposed "solid Americans" saw outright racism, bigotry, the violence it indulged in Ninsianna May 2017 #198

Many of these people are essentially in a cult. KTM May 2017 #200

The voice of reason Mountain Mule May 2017 #207

I consider these people to be backwards too, fighting as they do and embracing their own Ninsianna May 2017 #215

I don't buy it. You didn't need to listen to the news to know that trump is a racist, sexist, and still_one May 2017 #204

Lock her up! Build that Wall! JNelson6563 May 2017 #206

Fake News CNN! Enemies of the people! My taxes are secret! Nasty woman! Oh, yeah; Trump voters WinkyDink May 2017 #223

So right! JNelson6563 May 2017 #236

I am happy for you... sheshe2 May 2017 #208

Only barriers to voting have been devised by republicans delisen May 2017 #209

Good people Meowmee May 2017 #210

I, too, know those who voted for trump. Bu also only Lyricalinklines May 2017 #211

They disgust me. End of story. BlueStater May 2017 #218

Message deleted by DU the Administrators StopTheNeoCons May 2017 #250

After reading this thread, I am, frankly, stunned by Democrats who have so many Trump supporters as WinkyDink May 2017 #221

Final comment: I'll measure the regret of these "good Americans" by the election results in 2018. WinkyDink May 2017 #224

Me too. no_hypocrisy May 2017 #229

"These people are not bigots or sexist pigs." workinclasszero May 2017 #235

Or, God forbid, as friends. Ugh - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #315

spending time with their kids, tending cattle or deployed in the military HAB911 May 2017 #237

His supporters sold their souls to the devil HAB911 May 2017 #238

+++++++++++++++++++++ LeftInTX May 2017 #244

If They Are Uninformed Or Misinformed. . . ProfessorGAC May 2017 #241

Virtually nothing would change the status quo as much as voting for our first woman President. CousinIT May 2017 #242

The first thing we can do is stop calling them stupid and deplorable IronLionZion May 2017 #245

My guess is that many who "voted to change the status quo" now miss the "status quo"! George II May 2017 #248

Then why is the approval rating of the Democratic party going down? Kirkwood May 2017 #251

First, Have A Point ProfessorGAC May 2017 #260

So, you have no answer. Kirkwood May 2017 #277

Really? DownriverDem May 2017 #291

Everyone who voted for trump knew he is a racist and a bigot and still voted for him. still_one May 2017 #253

So, these "good solid Americans" voted for NastyRiffraff May 2017 #255

Well said! billh58 May 2017 #274

Like the Libertarians, we may agree on specific, individual issues ehrnst May 2017 #256

So much to deal with here and so little time MrScorpio May 2017 #257

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #262

I have to wonder if the OP is a person of color qanda May 2017 #263

I'm with you, ganda. brer cat May 2017 #332

If "they pay little attention to the news", then they're not "good solid Americans". dsharp88 May 2017 #264

Really? billh58 May 2017 #265

at times like this I like to refer to The Oatmeal (internet comic) to speak for me... Javaman May 2017 #267

I agree. My sentiments exactly. KPN May 2017 #268

"They pay little attention to the news and what is happening in the world . . ." hatrack May 2017 #270

another classic example heaven05 May 2017 #272

The Trump supporters you know aren't the same ones I know... Blue_Tires May 2017 #273

yanno i get what your saying but TalenaGor May 2017 #275

There was an ocean MFM008 May 2017 #276

He blasted his racist, sexist, bigoted bullshit with a megaphone and they didn't hear it? JTFrog May 2017 #281

And he's been doing that on a daily basis since June 2015 dalton99a May 2017 #289

Baloney! Foamfollower May 2017 #282

great post Locrian May 2017 #283

Wrong...more than half are racist idiots in my church... Pauldg47 May 2017 #284

"They pay little attention to the news and what is happening in the world.." LudwigPastorius May 2017 #285

i tried that and they just make no sense. n/t. okieinpain May 2017 #286

I have trouble getting past the fact that they KNOWINGLY voted for a self-admitted sexual niyad May 2017 #287

Trying to appeal to these idiots is not the best use of our time. We need to energize our base. SunSeeker May 2017 #288

It's an absolute waste of time talking to them. Deplorables will not vote Democratic. dalton99a May 2017 #293

"What they know is that they do not like the direction the country is going." Nitram May 2017 #290

If they don't know what's going on in politics Nwgirl503 May 2017 #295

They gambled Americans future. Don't think they care thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..........aaaaaaaaaaaat much! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #297

I've wondered how many people buy into the whole Democratic or GOP program andym May 2017 #299

"Nice" is not the same as "good" Boomer May 2017 #301

I'm willing to believe a very small percentage were truly ignorant steve2470 May 2017 #302

I respectfully disagree. SpankMe May 2017 #304

I need to know what Republicans did during Obama to warrant any of their votes. tenderfoot May 2017 #306

This is a very important question. And just more weight on the "Yep, they're bigots and sexists" Squinch May 2017 #341

they need to say "you were right, I'm Sorry, How can we help?" TalenaGor May 2017 #307

Methinks you are very naive ... GeorgeGist May 2017 #310

All duped by Right of politics radio stations, Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News yuiyoshida May 2017 #311

Exactly what has happened. Trump and his cohorts used them for their vote. They've been RKP5637 May 2017 #327

I know this is going to be unpopular but I am friends with and I understand many Hitler KingCharlemagne May 2017 #312

Sorry. No time ... flying-skeleton May 2017 #329

I hate the I don't have time to pay attention bs LostinRed May 2017 #333

They are not good solid Americans. LS_Editor May 2017 #335

I kind of agree with the OP. romanic May 2017 #336

I know a lot of Trump supporters as well Dopers_Greed May 2017 #337

What "label"? n/t SleeplessinSoCal May 2017 #342

Are you kidding?I'm done talking to and reaching out rury May 2017 #343

I know Trump supporters too - key issues are for-profit+right wing media, the rich buying low taxes sharedvalues May 2017 #353