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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts) Sat Jun 3, 2017, 09:39 AM Jun 2017

Liberal apologists of bill maher need to think long and hard [View all]

About why his clear islamaphobia, sexism, and racism don't bother you.

You may have your own problems with these issues.

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Liberal apologists of bill maher need to think long and hard [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 OP

This season I lost interest in his show completely eleny Jun 2017 #1

I agree with eleny katmondoo Jun 2017 #28

Too nasty and extreme for me a long time ago. Hortensis Jun 2017 #149

Nobody's bad opinions, absent bad actions, "bother me" Loki Liesmith Jun 2017 #2

Lol ok. It's also convenient that his bad opinions don't hurt you or yours La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #3

Exactly. Not in my backyard thinking. nt jrthin Jun 2017 #22

More like doesn't affect me, he's funny, why are you ppl making it hard for me to have all the La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #25

Yeah, I'm seeing "me me me" in all the replies defending Maher. WTF. bettyellen Jun 2017 #45

You don't get how OTHER people can be bothered by slurs used by political pundits? bettyellen Jun 2017 #94

Bill Maher is the farthest thing imaginable from racist and sexist. Goodheart Jun 2017 #4

Are you a woman? Are you a person of color? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #5

Neither. Goodheart Jun 2017 #7

Lol no, but I really like how self assured you are when you lecture La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author redgreenandblue Jun 2017 #52

Bwahahaha! "Lived experiences are overrated!" Please proceed! Squinch Jun 2017 #55

You either have to be affected OR you have to have empathy. pnwmom Jun 2017 #81

Lived experiences are overrated!?!?!?! Oh my, I just can't lunamagica Jun 2017 #151

Clearly you need a white dude to explain this to you Orrex Jun 2017 #192

You were being lectured to? WoonTars Jun 2017 #209

No, but they are much better at recognizing what you don't seem to be seeing. nt JTFrog Jun 2017 #38

This explains why you are so oblivious to the offensiveness pnwmom Jun 2017 #79

That's the general idea Major Nikon Jun 2017 #133

Maher does have his moments will all three aspects brought up, but not on his Malcolm X reference. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #12

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #34

What an uninformed post. JTFrog Jun 2017 #40

To some simply being a feminist qualifies someone as far left. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #48

Perhaps people just can't handle your opinion and you are having a hard time telling the difference. Squinch Jun 2017 #56

You are incorrect. brer cat Jun 2017 #96

+1 lunamagica Jun 2017 #152

Re islamophobia: I don't fear islam or christianity. I'm very wary of a few muslims & christians. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #46

Goodheart, Maher's religious bigotry is HUGE red flag. Hortensis Jun 2017 #153

Having a literary degree, I see the Malcolm X reference and accept the nuanced use of the word. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #6

Context is everything. Goodheart Jun 2017 #9

Lol maher could have made his point without using the word La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #14

lol, There's a lot of things could of and should of. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #19

He could have pushed back without using the n word La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #21

He could have. He chose not to, and that was his call, as he knows this guy better than I do. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #24

Lol. Not really. WoonTars Jun 2017 #210

Lol. Not really. nt JTFrog Jun 2017 #211

Lol. Yes really. mt WoonTars Jun 2017 #213

So that's what's missing. kcr Jun 2017 #54

Yes. His bigotry is so nuanced that people deny it when it is right in their faces! It's amazing! Squinch Jun 2017 #57

Well, if you were familiar with Malcolm X, you would have picked up on it immediately. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #127

You're a Bill Mahar fan, that's for sure n/t kcr Jun 2017 #130

Look at post #12. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #135

Bill Mahar defender? Same thing. kcr Jun 2017 #138

JFC. Whatever. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #139

Is there a place in this country defacto7 Jun 2017 #146

This sub-thread has truly been enlightening. kcr Jun 2017 #148

Maher's making a joke about slavery was inappropriate pnwmom Jun 2017 #82

Once again. Reflect a little. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #131

Back at you. And, by the way, Maher apologized. pnwmom Jun 2017 #142

I'd take these complaints more seriously if it included condemnation of Sasse Blue_Adept Jun 2017 #8

Apparently there's no possibly way Maher could have made his point without using the term. The WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #10

Yup! One min you rail Against identity politics next minute La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #15

If he's racist, they'd have to examine their support of what he says. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #17

Yeah, that part of the election was interesting from Maher Saviolo Jun 2017 #200

1. Agree about the "N" word. 2. Am really OVER this new cause of "co-opting" or "cultural WinkyDink Jun 2017 #11

"we comprise a stew of disparate elements" loyalsister Jun 2017 #128

I could never use the word... defacto7 Jun 2017 #188

It wasn't just the word loyalsister Jun 2017 #189

There's a long list of strong women and blacks who regularly appear on that show BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #16

Are they running around right now excusing his use of the n word? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #18

No, but my guess is they won't be calling him a racist for it either BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #23

Maher's use of the n word was not racist Goodheart Jun 2017 #26

Malcolm X didn't use it to get a laugh loyalsister Jun 2017 #107

I'm not impressed with your non sequiturs, sorry. Goodheart Jun 2017 #116

Ah the old deferential cheap jokes! Yeah, not buying that. bettyellen Jun 2017 #187

Wait. So, because he talks to strong women and blacks he can't be a bigot? I'm lost. Squinch Jun 2017 #60

The OP says if you support Bill Maher you're a bigot BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #62

No, not really. The guy used a racist slur. That is racist. Hence the name. The fact that he has Squinch Jun 2017 #64

That's almost articulate BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #71

He used a racist slur. That is racist. Hence the name. So that makes people who go Squinch Jun 2017 #74

Thanks for clarifying BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #75

I need to call out everyone who speaks to a bigot? My cousin is a bigot. I call HER out Squinch Jun 2017 #80

I'm glad you recognize... tonedevil Jun 2017 #160

She didn't say that- why do people keep lying about this? bettyellen Jun 2017 #186

Apparently. Quayblue Jun 2017 #65

Lots of strong intelligent people have denounced the joke. bettyellen Jun 2017 #185

I don't think he is islamaphobic Buckeyeblue Jun 2017 #20

Belligerent atheism HopeAgain Jun 2017 #30

I think Maher is a person willing to learn. He makes mistakes. He is a big boy. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #27

I was watching the show--Live--last night when he said it. mnhtnbb Jun 2017 #29

Amen fuck Ben Sasse IADEMO2004 Jun 2017 #32

I agree with you...Bill Maher dates women of color too.. HipChick Jun 2017 #36

Are you really going to go with "some of his best friends" or more accurately sex partners? bettyellen Jun 2017 #43

So your defense of him is that he has some black friends? Really? stevenleser Jun 2017 #44

you must not be a POC HipChick Jun 2017 #61

I am POC, are you? I can believe anyone of any ethnicity, gender, religion or orientation stevenleser Jun 2017 #72

You already stated you abhor BM.. HipChick Jun 2017 #77

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #90

Aaaaaannnd now you sink to the lowest level of discourse, the ad hominem. Squinch Jun 2017 #92

Not my first encounter with the person in question, which had nothing to do with you. GBizzle Jun 2017 #95

LOL! You're such a peach! Were you aware that this is a public forum? Squinch Jun 2017 #97

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #99

And another ad hominem attack! You're on a roll! Squinch Jun 2017 #100

When did I say this specifically applies to you? I didn't. You fail again. GBizzle Jun 2017 #102

Oh, you're so CLEVER! Squinch Jun 2017 #104

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #108

ANOTHER ad hominem! It's a trifecta! Squinch Jun 2017 #112

Can you play any other tunes? All you're contributing is noise, nothing of substance. GBizzle Jun 2017 #118

FOUR! Squinch Jun 2017 #121

I think they were looking for JPR and got lost at Albuquerque. nt stevenleser Jun 2017 #134

That must be it... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #169

+1.... George II Jun 2017 #161

Ooops sheshe2 Jun 2017 #167

yes... Squinch Jun 2017 #168

They sure do... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #170

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the cave today. Squinch Jun 2017 #171

... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #172

Gee, why did you need a new handle with all this making friends and influencing people? stevenleser Jun 2017 #132

It's definitely our first encounter. At least in this new incarnation of yours. Who were you before? stevenleser Jun 2017 #125

Thanks....so a non-Black person with faux outrage... HipChick Jun 2017 #98

And a frequent FOX and RT guest, at that. GBizzle Jun 2017 #101

I find people who use ad-hominem's boring, reductive and overdone ones like yours even more so. stevenleser Jun 2017 #129

You should watch some of his appearances on Fox, brings some liberal/progressive perspective.... George II Jun 2017 #162

I think that Steven has to have a lot of guts to do that. Walking into the lions den. I couldn't Squinch Jun 2017 #164

Hey Steve pushes back hard on wingnuts on Fox emulatorloo Jun 2017 #191

None of these folks are honest. Anytime I get this criticism it's always stevenleser Jun 2017 #197

By all means, we have an African American forum. See how well your opinion plays there. stevenleser Jun 2017 #137

I don't look to others to justify my opinion HipChick Jun 2017 #145

Sure you do, otherwise you wouldn't have asked me about my ethnicity stevenleser Jun 2017 #150

The important thing is we continue to rationalize bigoted sentiments LanternWaste Jun 2017 #190

My husband's Jewish, HipChick, and we live in the South, Hortensis Jun 2017 #155

Yeah, they live it on a daily basis. Like when they hear white people make slavery jokes pnwmom Jun 2017 #173

Those who bitch about PC are those who wish the n-word can be used in polite company... Humanist_Activist Jun 2017 #53

And there you have it. stevenleser Jun 2017 #136

Thanks for the Gaiman quote! nt pnwmom Jun 2017 #174

Agree with you lioness. apcalc Jun 2017 #31

Right. First and formost Bill Maher is an asshole. Salviati Jun 2017 #106

Thought about it. Inkfreak Jun 2017 #33

Shocking. nt JTFrog Jun 2017 #41

Lol La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #49

Boring. Inkfreak Jun 2017 #163

Or his antivaccination hysteria, although he's toned that one down Warpy Jun 2017 #35

As a woman MFM008 Jun 2017 #37

He's not a liberal. He's a fucking libertarian. Jakes Progress Jun 2017 #39

Yep! I don't know why Liberals are rushing to defend him. PBass Jun 2017 #195

He definitely has some blind spots, but libertarianism is something entirely different. Without JCanete Jun 2017 #207

He has called himself a libertarian. Jakes Progress Jun 2017 #214

I've always had a problem with him because of his bigotry. He's often right about other stuff but stevenleser Jun 2017 #42

K+R. nt m-lekktor Jun 2017 #47

I agree completely nini Jun 2017 #50

Back in the early 90's when he had Politically Incorrect on tv.. vi5 Jun 2017 #51

Would be cool to pick random DU'ers and put them under the spotlight snooper2 Jun 2017 #58

Never said the n word is a low bar, that most of us could cross La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #63

Have you done any of those things in the context of your job? If so, were there consequences? Squinch Jun 2017 #84

How many random DUer's have a national show with potential to influence and normalize bigotry? nt JTFrog Jun 2017 #110

I heard someone make that argument in defense of 45 loyalsister Jun 2017 #124

He's not under the spotlight. This is what he said on air, not in his private life. nt stevenleser Jun 2017 #198

K+R. SaschaHM Jun 2017 #59

Cornell West, Michael Eric Dyson, Larry Wilmore, Kerry Washington, Chris Rock -all FREQUENT guests MrPurple Jun 2017 #66

+1 GBizzle Jun 2017 #70

With a few exceptions like when he used the n word La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #86

Yes, some of his best friends are Black NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #177

Hundreds of hours of nuanced discussions about race MrPurple Jun 2017 #180

Translation: "Agree with me, or I'll call you a racist." GBizzle Jun 2017 #67

No. The correct translation is: "Use racist slurs and I'll call you a racist." See the difference? Squinch Jun 2017 #69

Actually, the REAL translation is "I don't know what the word 'CONTEXT' means" GBizzle Jun 2017 #73

Some people DO tolerate racist slurs if the person using the slur gives some dumb-ass Squinch Jun 2017 #78

And some people don't care how the slur was used, only that it was said at all. GBizzle Jun 2017 #83

Using racist slurs (or arguing vociferously that it is acceptable to use racist slurs) is racist. Squinch Jun 2017 #89

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #91

Not facts - spike lee, chance and others have denounced the joke. bettyellen Jun 2017 #182

"But that does nothing to change the fact that the person used a racist slur. " Goodheart Jun 2017 #109

Ah, the secret language of the racist slurs that only the initiated can hear! Squinch Jun 2017 #111

Just language. It's more difficult for some than others, granted. Goodheart Jun 2017 #114

Oh, Lord. You really said that. Squinch Jun 2017 #115

Funny, that's what I feel like saying after reading each comment of yours. GBizzle Jun 2017 #119

Yep... correctly and unapologetically, too. Goodheart Jun 2017 #120

Oh please tweet this out and send us the link, LOL. bettyellen Jun 2017 #183

lol yeah. Hide behind carlin. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #87

Right? SaschaHM Jun 2017 #88

Would you prefer Richard Pryor instead? GBizzle Jun 2017 #93

Pryor final stance on the subject was that he denounced use of the word stevenleser Jun 2017 #157

He's being compared to Malcom X again .... bettyellen Jun 2017 #184

Pissing On Allies ProfessorGAC Jun 2017 #68

Lol. He's not an ally and neither are his apologists. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #85

An Expected Reply ProfessorGAC Jun 2017 #105

Bill Maher is absolutely an ally Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #117

Maher is just one more reason my television is a movie player. That's all it does. hunter Jun 2017 #76

If you want examples of our culture's increasing coarseness democrank Jun 2017 #103

Oh Christ! Now we're going to try and get Maher fired too???? This is why democrats suck! beaglelover Jun 2017 #113

Are YOU trying to get Maher fired? Because no one said anything about getting Maher fired. Squinch Jun 2017 #166

I completely agree Mike B Jun 2017 #122

Do people honestly thing that "defending Maher and house n*gger" brings in enough votes... SaschaHM Jun 2017 #123

This "appeal to the rust belt white man!" and "let Maher use racial slurs!" wing of the party does Squinch Jun 2017 #175

Watching Wil Wheaton complain about white voters is kind of amusing. Shandris Jun 2017 #126

LOL! Even Bill Maher finds Bill Maher's use of the racial slur unacceptable! Squinch Jun 2017 #140

Better question for you: is his apology racist, too? Goodheart Jun 2017 #141

Use of racist slurs is racist. Hence the name. Squinch Jun 2017 #143

You didn't answer my question. Goodheart Jun 2017 #144

I understand the fact that the use of racist slurs is racist is very difficult for some Squinch Jun 2017 #147

He's a self absorbed coward and racist. kristopher Jun 2017 #154

I don't need to think long and hard about this at all NobodyHere Jun 2017 #156

If you are against Maher over this, I'm against you. gulliver Jun 2017 #158

Well, yes. Anyone who wants to "lynch" Maher would be wrong. But no one wants to. Squinch Jun 2017 #165

Sometimes he's wrong. Sometimes he's very wrong. There are a lot of ways to be wrong though, and JCanete Jun 2017 #159

I won't evict him from my foxhole tirebiter Jun 2017 #176

He has clearly been a sexist pig, among his other bigotry ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #178

I dont think Maher is a racist, but he says some offensive stuff. nt LexVegas Jun 2017 #179

Much ado about very little Orcrist Jun 2017 #181

being mad at a guy who tries to say offensive things for a living is an interesting activity. TeamPooka Jun 2017 #193

"You may have your own problems with these issues. " NCTraveler Jun 2017 #194

Too much man splaining on that show for my taste TNLib Jun 2017 #196

I've loathed him for years Starry Messenger Jun 2017 #199

So what method of execution should we use? MindPilot Jun 2017 #201

Logical fallacies don't make your point. nt stevenleser Jun 2017 #203

"Real liberals go to a third party" and others have purity tests? What? bettyellen Jun 2017 #204

A couple thoughts for you GitRDun Jun 2017 #202

I like Bill Maher. You can;t please everyone, especially here on Democratilc Underground. demosincebirth Jun 2017 #205

I'm giving it some thought right now. Give me a sec... BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #206

He can be extremely funny.. WoonTars Jun 2017 #208

We all have Sacred Cows we defend with an irrational purpose. LanternWaste Jun 2017 #212