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HAB911

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89. We are not going to win this argument

Reply to obamanut2012 (Reply #77)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 10:56 AM

Jul 2017

and we may never win another election either

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Calling Trump gay is homophobic [View all] dsc Jul 2017 OP

What is it called when you talk about his penis? Not Ruth Jul 2017 #1

Well what do you call it when.... sheshe2 Jul 2017 #4

Yep, I watched that very exchange during the debates. classof56 Jul 2017 #40

Hellooooooooooooo class! sheshe2 Jul 2017 #56

Sexism Major Nikon Jul 2017 #57

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2017 #60

Apparently homophobic, transphobic, anti-Semitic, racist and misogynistic comments are ok... demmiblue Jul 2017 #2

The thing is he can be ridiculed for so many different things that will offend someone out there. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #6

It's fine to associate DT with bestiality, pnwmom Jul 2017 #22

Agreed Fatemah2774 Jul 2017 #96

I'm sorry there are people even here who don't get it. Welcome to DU, Fatemah2774! n/t pnwmom Jul 2017 #97

Not really. There's no such race as orange people. And he is a pig for sure. bettyellen Jul 2017 #26

And no pig's feelings would be hurt if he's mocked as a pig lover. n/t pnwmom Jul 2017 #68

Winner! Behind the Aegis Jul 2017 #8

Bingo. cwydro Jul 2017 #72

Don't forget fat shaming. nt HopeAgain Jul 2017 #47

I think you're making a great point. lapucelle Jul 2017 #61

Thanks for the post and reminder to keep our childish instincts under control nt populistdriven Jul 2017 #3

As a member of the "gay" community blur256 Jul 2017 #5

Calling Trump gay enrages the homophobic! yallerdawg Jul 2017 #7

So, using homophobia is OK because the ends justify the means. Behind the Aegis Jul 2017 #9

Homosexual images and references disturbs the hell out of homophobes! yallerdawg Jul 2017 #12

And I am telling you, it is using homoseuality as the BUTT of the joke. Behind the Aegis Jul 2017 #13

It's NOT a joke! yallerdawg Jul 2017 #15

If you want to provoke him, then show him kissing a warthog or a goat. pnwmom Jul 2017 #19

Or maybe 'the joke' ... is that Trump & Putin REALLY REALLY LIKE EACH OTHER ... mr_lebowski Jul 2017 #33

You don't intend disrespect but the effect is still to denigrate the LGBT community. pnwmom Jul 2017 #48

no; anybody that doesn't get that this is insulting either doesn't want to get it, or just doesn't c TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #58

This exactly obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #78

It's childish and bigoted. Grow up mythology Jul 2017 #31

No, it is a joke, and it is mocking and degrading us -- STOP IT obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #77

We are not going to win this argument HAB911 Jul 2017 #89

It's bigoted. It's puerile. cwydro Jul 2017 #125

I just had this conversation twice HAB911 Jul 2017 #88

YOU ARE MOCKING AND DEGRADING OUR COMMUNITY WHEN YOU DO THAT obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #76

This is very similar to how my son explained it to me when I asked his opinion... NurseJackie Jul 2017 #94

exactly; it's the end justifies the means; thing is, there are so many legitimate means to insult TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #38

. demmiblue Jul 2017 #11

"Remember how appalled we all were when we heard. . . " You must be straight or you wouldn't pnwmom Jul 2017 #16

If you are sarisataka Jul 2017 #17

I know the answer to that! demmiblue Jul 2017 #21

I see where you are going with this, but there are better ways of doing all of these things. Gore1FL Jul 2017 #24

Who is the "we" appalled by "We're here! We're queer! Get used to it!" ? uppityperson Jul 2017 #25

I wondered that too. cwydro Jul 2017 #116

Oh great, so it's okay to degrade our community to hurt the RW obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #75

Being Pro-LGBTQ seems to only be a means to an end to some LostOne4Ever Jul 2017 #10

What the FUCK are you talking about?? tRump is homophobic, but in no way is he gay madinmaryland Jul 2017 #14

Please reread the OP. DSC is saying we shouldn't be using homophobic slurs against DT, pnwmom Jul 2017 #18

tRump is hurtful to population at large.. HipChick Jul 2017 #23

Which is part of why calling him gay to slur him is fucked up. bettyellen Jul 2017 #27

Quit attacking DSC who is, you know GAY and is tired of people mocking our community obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #79

K and R! m-lekktor Jul 2017 #20

My son and his husband think it's okay... NurseJackie Jul 2017 #28

If a black person thought it was OK to call Carson the n word dsc Jul 2017 #29

One black person does not represent all black people HipChick Jul 2017 #32

but apparently in your mind one or two gay people represent all of us dsc Jul 2017 #37

There you go again... HipChick Jul 2017 #41

so you would accept calling Carson the n word? dsc Jul 2017 #45

But most gay people are hurt and offended by gay photos or slurs. So it's not worth hurting pnwmom Jul 2017 #53

I'd trust my family..... HipChick Jul 2017 #30

There is the fact that it's a bigoted slur that hurts many here mythology Jul 2017 #35

Thank you. NurseJackie Jul 2017 #49

If your family thought racist jokes were okay would that make them fine, too? pnwmom Jul 2017 #51

So it's perfectly OK with you if I freely use the N word as an insult? Ms. Toad Jul 2017 #64

A significant number of gay people would be hurt and offended. Is it worth the risk pnwmom Jul 2017 #50

I wouldn't say that they are homophobic, but as a gay man myself... SaschaHM Jul 2017 #55

Nash,it means that for whatever reason they're not that offended by slurs... bettyellen Jul 2017 #69

I think they're beyond wanting to appear to be "cool". NurseJackie Jul 2017 #86

By cool I meant socially acceptable. Slurs create a hostile atmosphere and it can bettyellen Jul 2017 #87

Imagine how your son might have felt at age 10 or 12, coming to terms with being gay, pnwmom Jul 2017 #98

See this... NurseJackie Jul 2017 #99

I understand what you're saying. The point I'm trying to get across is that young people pnwmom Jul 2017 #101

I believe you already know the answer to your question. AtheistCrusader Jul 2017 #91

Yes, but I can sure call him a big dick! Kablooie Jul 2017 #34

When the intention is to shock Egnever Jul 2017 #36

I disagree. LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #39

Interestingly...my mother has said the same thing from Day 1... HipChick Jul 2017 #43

Of course dsc Jul 2017 #46

Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #62

His perversion? You're calling someone you just say you think is bi or gay Heddi Jul 2017 #100

Excellent post. cwydro Jul 2017 #103

Hell no it wasn't answered Heddi Jul 2017 #104

Thank you. cwydro Jul 2017 #110

So nice to see you aagin, even if under these circumstances. Behind the Aegis Jul 2017 #118

but but but Heddi Jul 2017 #121

Outstanding post. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #107

Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #128

You certainly are tethering that chicken... demmiblue Jul 2017 #130

! beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #131

Well thank you, bmus. demmiblue Jul 2017 #133

Nice try. No dice. LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #132

I will proceed. Will you? demmiblue Jul 2017 #134

Ha melman Jul 2017 #135

DU should have a "upvote" for posts in threads! Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #137

Just stop -- this is so insulting to us obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #80

Is that so? melman Jul 2017 #85

The pot calling the kettle black Croney Jul 2017 #42

If I thought the word "gay" was an insult, then I would probably use it Victor_c3 Jul 2017 #44

Calling him human is an insult to the species. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #52

I don't think trump is gay Marthe48 Jul 2017 #54

And some right here think it's perfectly ok. cwydro Jul 2017 #59

Well, some say they have a gay relative who thinks it's funny obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #81

I absolutely find it extremely difficult to believe a gay person would use gay slurs. cwydro Jul 2017 #84

I think it's a case of... Heddi Jul 2017 #113

You got it. cwydro Jul 2017 #117

Frustrating loyalsister Jul 2017 #92

He would be LUCKY MFM008 Jul 2017 #63

And dumb. Dude is offensively hetero. Barack_America Jul 2017 #65

Agreed. DemocraticWing Jul 2017 #66

I'm sad that so many otherwise thoughtful people disagree with you. pnwmom Jul 2017 #67

There is certainly a contingent on DU who delight in using these slurs. cwydro Jul 2017 #73

I'm gay, and I'm not offended. The penis size suspicions though... Ezior Jul 2017 #70

Love this response. moda253 Jul 2017 #114

Referring to someone as a "cock holster" is the definition of homophobia. Gravitycollapse Jul 2017 #115

Sorry. I'll keep ridiculing the asshole any way I want. BlueStater Jul 2017 #71

So, it's okay for you to demean and insult and mock the LGBT community obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #82

I'm completley crushed. BlueStater Jul 2017 #95

Demeaned by inferring he is gay... cwydro Jul 2017 #123

Cosign this -- am tired to death of this obamanut2012 Jul 2017 #74

An insult often plays on the sensitivities of the target, rather than those of the insulter Orrex Jul 2017 #83

If Gay Guys/Gals Said the Shit Straight People Say... HAB911 Jul 2017 #90

Omg this is fantastic. cwydro Jul 2017 #105

Rec. nt LexVegas Jul 2017 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author ImpeachTheGOP Jul 2017 #102

HA HA HA PRISON RAPE IS FUNNY Heddi Jul 2017 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author ImpeachTheGOP Jul 2017 #108

You calld him a Prag Heddi Jul 2017 #109

You literally referenced a homophobic slur that comes from prison rape. Gravitycollapse Jul 2017 #112

You know what? Forget it. I'm sorry. ImpeachTheGOP Jul 2017 #124

Prison rape is a horrific crime that isn't funny in the slightest. Slut shaming isn't funny either. Gravitycollapse Jul 2017 #111

It's discouraging to see this shit here, but it's simultaneously encouraging to see people stand up AtheistCrusader Jul 2017 #119

Never thought it would need to be said here, but... Behind the Aegis Jul 2017 #120

It is sad it has to be said here Heddi Jul 2017 #122

Agreed, we're supposed to be better than this. beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #126

thank you. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #127

Malcolm Gladwell's Revisionist History has a segment on... bagelsforbreakfast Jul 2017 #129

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