General Discussion

Octafish

(55,745 posts)

65. Yes, ''...by a preponderance of the evidence.''

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 07:28 PM

Dec 2011

The reason, because this bill helps advance the slide to a police state where people who criticize the government, its policies and its officials, can be classified as enemies of the state.

Suppose I tell someone at OWS that they should burn their draft card. That would make me one..."engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities (meaning any conflict subject to the laws of war) against the United States."

That also means I could get the ziggy and tossed in the slammer or disappeared into Gitmo in Riyadh and no lawyer I can afford could do anything about it.

I am to understand that you do not oppose the bill?

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

70 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Joe Lieberman Wants Power To Strip Government Opponents of Their Citizenship. [View all] Octafish Dec 2011 OP

What party is this guy again? Zalatix Dec 2011 #1

One Percenters make up the Party of Joe. Octafish Dec 2011 #7

Likud. nt tsuki Dec 2011 #25

Beat me to it! DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #29

ding ding we have a winner elehhhhna Dec 2011 #46

The asshole party fujiyama Dec 2011 #27

And 1 co sponsor: Scott Brown [R-MA] n/t think Dec 2011 #2

Elizabeth Warren should capitalize on that, big time. Zalatix Dec 2011 #3

He could be a showroom dummie. Octafish Dec 2011 #10

He still suffers from epic failure imo. Rex Dec 2011 #4

No, not quite that. Something nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #6

Par for the course quinnox Dec 2011 #5

What kind of guy is Traitor Joe? Octafish Dec 2011 #44

He's retiring. Can we just shove him out on an ice floe now? AtomicKitten Dec 2011 #8

I believe it would take a constitutional amendment to do that Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #9

Thank you for the background. Do you think the Roberts court will agree? Octafish Dec 2011 #34

I have no idea, but based on previously set precident Motown_Johnny Dec 2011 #39

Joe LIEberman has repeatedly shown his hatred of our Constitution. Dawson Leery Dec 2011 #57

You took an oath Joe CreekDog Dec 2011 #11

Doesn't this bast*** have dual citizenship? Under Dog Dec 2011 #12

No, he does not have dual citizenship. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #16

So what do you think of Lieberman's bill? Octafish Dec 2011 #36

Is your response supposed to be ironic? Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #48

I don't approve of anti-Semitism. Do you think I do? Octafish Dec 2011 #49

This is good to know. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #52

So now I'm in your database? Octafish Dec 2011 #56

What database is this? Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #59

So, I didn't make an anti-Semitic remark? Octafish Dec 2011 #60

I didn't say you did. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #61

Calling someone a bastard is anti-semitic? nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2011 #63

No. Didn't say it was. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #64

You've made an accusation. Provide details. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2011 #41

A slur is an insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #50

Slur? WilliamPitt Dec 2011 #42

A slur is an insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #51

As for Lieberman being a bast**d, I'll stick by my comment Under Dog Dec 2011 #54

I have NO problem whatsoever with you calling him a bastard. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #55

His #1 loyalty is to the Jewish State Maccagirl Dec 2011 #43

YOu have any proof? Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #53

His loyalty is to the 1 percent got root Dec 2011 #58

Doesn't Loserman have duel citizenship? Politicalboi Dec 2011 #13

He doesn't have dual citizenship. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #17

Israel has their Lieberman. We have ours. In the end, neither will have a positive effect on Israel hlthe2b Dec 2011 #21

If you know anything about Israel's Lieberman, you know theirs is much worse. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #22

I agree that Israel's Lieberman is worse... hlthe2b Dec 2011 #23

I didn't say it wasn't a factor. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #26

Government opponents...thats the republicans, right? bhikkhu Dec 2011 #14

the indefinite detention president will veto it? nt msongs Dec 2011 #15

Lieberman is suffering from dementia The Second Stone Dec 2011 #18

I want to know what happens if you are stripped of citizenship. Are you shipped... joshcryer Dec 2011 #19

Of course he does. He's a coward. krispos42 Dec 2011 #20

+1 eShirl Dec 2011 #28

Where did Lieberman get this nutty idea? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2011 #24

He should be at the top of the list malaise Dec 2011 #30

Those who voice such thoughts are already enemies of the state. Octafish Dec 2011 #40

Isn't this a milder version of what Hitler did to the Jews? justiceischeap Dec 2011 #31

Joe Lieberman did not make this type of idiotic statement back in his earlier political life. northoftheborder Dec 2011 #32

that last question mark G_j Dec 2011 #33

Sounds like fascism to me. GeorgeGist Dec 2011 #35

the concept has many supporters on DU Enrique Dec 2011 #37

Yet Another Totalitarian Loser (YATL). nt bemildred Dec 2011 #38

Do you oppose this? treestar Dec 2011 #45

Yes, ''...by a preponderance of the evidence.'' Octafish Dec 2011 #65

It is so typical treestar Dec 2011 #67

This ''drama monarch'' sides with democracy, not the executive. Octafish Jan 2012 #69

Joe Lieberman is a douchebag. zappaman Dec 2011 #47

Mr "Get off my lawn" is at it again. . . He's retiring, right? annabanana Dec 2011 #62

The only good thing from the stolen election of 2000 thelordofhell Dec 2011 #66

"...lock up and punish anyone they want as an enemy combatant without due process or trial. " unkachuck Jan 2012 #68

Oh, that's OK. Obama will veto it like he vetoed the NDAA...oh, wait. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #70