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146. "Divisive rabble rousing"?? It's nothing of the sort.

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:34 AM

Oct 2017

We come here to avoid divisive rabble rousing like that, and living in the past doesn't help the future.

"Divisive rabble rousing"?? It's nothing of the sort. Among those who supported our party's nominee, this should be unifying and energizing and a re-focusing of our energies against our enemies.

Personally, I find it odd that anyone would be opposed to such a thing. Why would anyone want to defend the obvious targets of the justified scorn, contempt, anger and distrust? Why would anyone care so much about Susan Sarandon or anyone of her ilk that didn't support our party's nominee?

How is this "divisive"? Who's being "divided" from whom?

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Enough with the scolding please. [View all] elehhhhna Oct 2017 OP

Bernie is an ally. Sarandon is not. People should feel free to criticize her here. Please don't pnwmom Oct 2017 #1

They are both examples . Susan is really not relevant. Not anymore anyway! elehhhhna Oct 2017 #4

I agree. cwydro Oct 2017 #22

Can we also agree that this OP is a divisive, rabble-rousing "contribution?" Hortensis Oct 2017 #129

Not at all. At least, not for me. When I read this OP, I hear common sense. George Eliot Oct 2017 #197

Constant nonstop drumbeat of lies about Hillary repeated by famous people Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #28

Then why did you include her? BainsBane Oct 2017 #89

It becomes part of a chorus treestar Oct 2017 #149

Hmmmmmmmmmmm still_one Oct 2017 #209

If Bernie were my ally he would work to get Dems elected in 2018 instead of criticizing wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #5

+1 SunSeeker Oct 2017 #30

+1 doc03 Oct 2017 #31

-1 pangaia Oct 2017 #32

+1 lunamagica Oct 2017 #34

+10 Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #35

+ 100! n/t NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #36

+999999999999... stevenleser Oct 2017 #42

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 JHan Oct 2017 #47

I raise ya +2000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 sheshe2 Oct 2017 #54

I'll see that and raise ya 10 to the one-millionth power. calimary Oct 2017 #94

I fold. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #95

well is he supposed to be an ally to a team, or to common goals? If to common goals, how can JCanete Oct 2017 #126

And this is the problem.. JHan Oct 2017 #133

that doesn't make any sense. You get primaried because we'd rather have somebody else in the seat JCanete Oct 2017 #150

Uhm. JHan Oct 2017 #151

first, you said she'd sooner work with a republican. Where is that quote? I was familiar with these JCanete Oct 2017 #155

If you can't suss out Nina's meaning in the quotes I provided.. JHan Oct 2017 #158

there is reading between the lines and just seeing things. I totally disagree with you that that is JCanete Oct 2017 #189

"things I totally disagree with" JHan Oct 2017 #195

you are literally not. You are saying read between the lines. That is not just taking her words. JCanete Oct 2017 #196

And... JHan Oct 2017 #198

Read over your post too fast and missed something important. So you are just talking about JCanete Oct 2017 #203

+ infinity! nt Kahuna7 Oct 2017 #60

Okay. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #91

Thank you! NurseJackie Oct 2017 #72

++++ brer cat Oct 2017 #74

Yes! Exactly!!! terip64 Oct 2017 #79

Sorry, but all Americans do need Medicare. PatrickforO Oct 2017 #82

I agree with a lot of those issues BainsBane Oct 2017 #96

I guess what irritates me about these Bernie threads is that PatrickforO Oct 2017 #105

Hear hear. n/t Beartracks Oct 2017 #107

+1000 ATL Ebony Oct 2017 #213

Its the Mercers BainsBane Oct 2017 #109

But why? What is their motive? I can understand Koch - his motive is naked greed. PatrickforO Oct 2017 #181

My understanding BainsBane Oct 2017 #183

This message was self-deleted by its author ATL Ebony Oct 2017 #210

yep. nt prayin4rain Oct 2017 #92

Um. Bernie is working to get Democrats elected. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #112

so reasonable. Thank you. George Eliot Oct 2017 #199

+1! eom BlueMTexpat Oct 2017 #113

right...allies just shut their trap and don't push for anything that is inconvenient. Lovely...that JCanete Oct 2017 #124

Right. Except that has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that BS pisses people off with his Squinch Oct 2017 #147

Trump is in the White House because of systemic failings of our government which were enabled JCanete Oct 2017 #157

Excellent post Kentonio Oct 2017 #222

+ a brazillion treestar Oct 2017 #142

The most important goal is winning the House in 2018. kstewart33 Oct 2017 #163

Preach! liquid diamond Oct 2017 #166

You don't have to be a fan. LWolf Oct 2017 #202

+1000 Kentonio Oct 2017 #223

+100,000 ATL Ebony Oct 2017 #208

Sometimes I think people forget what the word Ally means Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #64

+1 LongTomH Oct 2017 #76

+1 Quixote1818 Oct 2017 #234

Susan's a monster DoubleAgentOrange Oct 2017 #132

I looked him up. This just reinforces the point I made about SS being a hypocrite. And yes, she's a lunamagica Oct 2017 #216

the lumping is yours Wibly Oct 2017 #186

No, forgetting the past doesn't help the future. wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #2

There's a big difference between living in the past and forgetting the past elehhhhna Oct 2017 #6

I don't think we are living in the past when we diagnose what put us in the position we are in. wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #8

+1 ffr Oct 2017 #12

From where I sit, what is going on is not a diagnosis. janx Oct 2017 #27

Bingo. And no, none of its constructive. TDale313 Oct 2017 #77

And it is happening AGAIN Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #29

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2017 #16

Exactly. The past needs to be examined. Only then we can aspire to win lunamagica Oct 2017 #37

I'm glad you're not the boss here. There are places in the leftosphere where SS is celebrated. I... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #3

I agree that she's a dumbass. Let's move on. Also, elehhhhna Oct 2017 #7

bernie is not an ally - he has a history of trashing the Democratic Party. Lil Missy Oct 2017 #9

now now Lil Missy Skittles Oct 2017 #10

+1 Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #18

+1000 stonecutter357 Oct 2017 #33

You are correct. Imagine if the GOP were making the same smears and attacks... NurseJackie Oct 2017 #134

Thank you! liquid diamond Oct 2017 #165

Many of us have no interest in a Democratic Party that is above criticism Kentonio Oct 2017 #224

Then why are you here? When you can trash the Party somewhere else? Lil Missy Oct 2017 #225

You don't represent the Democratic party just because your prefered candidate won the last primary Kentonio Oct 2017 #226

I'm guilty of being one of the scolders and there is a lesson. ffr Oct 2017 #11

And good for you for doing so! janx Oct 2017 #23

Thats what people said about Nader. Move on, its not like it will happen again... stevenleser Oct 2017 #44

The analogy of Stein to Nader is hard for me to accept. janx Oct 2017 #49

That makes it worse, dont you think? stevenleser Oct 2017 #51

It makes the situation worse only if you assume that janx Oct 2017 #167

There is nothing to assume, she did. Just like Nader in 2000. stevenleser Oct 2017 #175

Stein is worse! She's a Russian spy for crap sakes! Lil Missy Oct 2017 #171

Maybe we need a forum where people who want to engage in divisive rabble rousing can go and leave Justice Oct 2017 #13

You want a forum where people can talk about Bernie v. Hillary? janx Oct 2017 #15

I want GD to be a forum where issues are discussed and not a constant snarky fight. Justice Oct 2017 #206

I understand and agree with you. janx Oct 2017 #211

Sounds as if you have trouble resisting the urge to click on those "snarky click bait posts". Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #21

Do you feel good insulting people anonymously? Justice Oct 2017 #205

This message was self-deleted by its author Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #221

...s/he scolded. Iggo Oct 2017 #14

. Squinch Oct 2017 #85

Recommended. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #17

Bernie and Sarandon did not cause Secretary Clinton's loss last November... Dennis Donovan Oct 2017 #19

I disagree. HRC had the election won--decisively--until Comey intervened to rig the race. StevieM Oct 2017 #40

Stein got 31,000 votes in WI mcar Oct 2017 #63

Respectfully disagree. Bernie's and Stein's continued presence made it okay to go renegade calimary Oct 2017 #97

Which the Russians intentionally stoked through their psyops. BainsBane Oct 2017 #103

YES. For those who didn't vote for Hillary? Okay, then. calimary Oct 2017 #110

Some of them object to the kneeling BainsBane Oct 2017 #164

I think the evidence is strong that Bernie did not cost Hillary the race. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #123

"a rationale to remain divided" I fiind that phrase ironic in the current context Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #125

Thank you elehhhhna Oct 2017 #138

2000 . . . 2004 . . . 2016 . . . 20?? . . . Who will be the next election saboteur? NBachers Oct 2017 #20

Exactly. n/t janx Oct 2017 #24

They would have sabotaged 2012 if they got half a chance. Blue_true Oct 2017 #66

Thanks for your calls for unity! Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #25

In complete agreement Moral Compass Oct 2017 #26

Couldn't have said it better MC. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #111

DURec leftstreet Oct 2017 #38

Uh oh MuseRider Oct 2017 #39

You're being sarcastic, right? elehhhhna Oct 2017 #140

Oh yes. :-) MuseRider Oct 2017 #152

Whew. This thread is brutal. elehhhhna Oct 2017 #153

It is brutal as was the other. MuseRider Oct 2017 #156

I have nothing against Bernie, he did everything right Downtown Hound Oct 2017 #41

Sorry, but he made many mistakes and it cost us. coolsandy Oct 2017 #57

He went away and did not campaign for Hillary. Blue_true Oct 2017 #67

he campaigned for hc questionseverything Oct 2017 #70

He sat out August, September, early October. Blue_true Oct 2017 #73

Your statement is false. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #187

I watched the general close. Bernie was not there for Hillary Blue_true Oct 2017 #228

BULLSHIT. (there is this thing called Google that will help you with this kind of thing) progressoid Oct 2017 #194

Four stops? WOW. Blue_true Oct 2017 #229

There were many more than four stops. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #230

Wow. Two people show you that your statement was wrong and you stick by your delusion. progressoid Oct 2017 #231

Oh yeah, two people decide everything. New concept to me. Blue_true Oct 2017 #232

Maybe you don't like the Google. There's also Yahoo, Bing, Duckduckgo, etc. to refresh your memory. progressoid Oct 2017 #233

You are really working hard on this. Blue_true Oct 2017 #236

Not working nearly as hard as you are at avoiding your own statements. progressoid Oct 2017 #238

Great minds discuss ideas Martin Eden Oct 2017 #43

yeah i agree.. sarandon is not someone we want to defend.... samnsara Oct 2017 #45

17 years ago, I got a pound of flesh cut out of me for voting Nader Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #46

Trump makes Shrub look like Einstein. nt Blue_true Oct 2017 #68

Totally agree. zentrum Oct 2017 #48

Same here. SalviaBlue Oct 2017 #62

Yup. zentrum Oct 2017 #71

Don't blame me. newblewtoo Oct 2017 #50

Wow! 60 recc's in less than 2 hours! Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #52

You reminded me, I forgot to rec the OP. nt Blue_true Oct 2017 #69

Call it like you see it. Philistein Oct 2017 #53

Welcome to DU, Philistein. calimary Oct 2017 #98

Some people want to keep fighting over the past left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #55

Magic eight ball says yes elehhhhna Oct 2017 #143

Well I gotta disagree a bit MFM008 Oct 2017 #56

Amen. calimary Oct 2017 #99

The enemy of my friend is my enemy... czarjak Oct 2017 #58

Against DU rules, now I believe... yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #59

The opposite, actually, according to the admins. stevenleser Oct 2017 #65

K and Highly RECOMMEND SalviaBlue Oct 2017 #61

Lol. Skinner himself said people who didn't support Hillary weren't welcome here. Deal with it. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #75

Closing the tent around you is the best way to lose... TomVilmer Oct 2017 #119

What a bunch of condescending bullshit. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #154

Are you rambling about DU or the contry? TomVilmer Oct 2017 #161

I have to agree its time to move on and focus our energy on winning rather cstanleytech Oct 2017 #78

I Recced it cause it's a never ending shitstorm BootinUp Oct 2017 #80

Nobody has to be a Bernie "fan." mountain grammy Oct 2017 #81

So I guess you won't be doing that stopping scolding thing then... Squinch Oct 2017 #84

"Not a millionaire"? How do you know that? According to Wiki, he made over a million $$ in 2016. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #117

As long as you've identified the enemy and he is Bernie Sanders. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #135

"Democratic establishment"? Well, now I know exactly where you're coming from. Thanks. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #220

You know, I don't know why I used that word establishment because I don't like it.. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #235

Bernie is a millionnaire MaryMagdaline Oct 2017 #179

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2017 #185

It's terrible that citizens think they have the right to say anything BainsBane Oct 2017 #83

Very well said. Squinch Oct 2017 #88

Tell me where I suggested that Susan Sarandon is some kind of hero or anything other than a dip shit elehhhhna Oct 2017 #144

You demanded no one criticize Sarandon BainsBane Oct 2017 #162

You see from this thread why the pointless scolding goes on and on and on. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #86

And you aren't doing that stopping scolding thing either, I see. Squinch Oct 2017 #87

I wasn't scolding. I responded to the OP and I was commiserating. (n/t) Jim Lane Oct 2017 #100

Uh huh. Point that finger back at yourself. Squinch Oct 2017 #137

I would love BainsBane Oct 2017 #90

Then you should change your password. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #101

Actually I posted about Susan Sarandon BainsBane Oct 2017 #102

Sorry to disappoint you but your hazarded guess is wrong. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #120

I'm just fine with sarandon being denounced often. Sarandon DID make a mistake. That mistake Squinch Oct 2017 #139

I'm pretty sure... tonedevil Oct 2017 #160

You're right that people do tell malicious lies on DU. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #169

Past is prologue BainsBane Oct 2017 #178

How is this relevant now? If I use your rationale above, elehhhhna Oct 2017 #190

What are you talking about? BainsBane Oct 2017 #218

First off you are mistaken, she supported obama elehhhhna Oct 2017 #219

LOL! She's Lucy with the football. You're Charlie Brown. Maybe it'll be different next time! Squinch Oct 2017 #180

People who make mistakes acknowledge them BainsBane Oct 2017 #174

Sorry, but I'm completely out of patience with all the straw-man arguments on DU. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #177

Pro tip never argue with somebody's imagination. elehhhhna Oct 2017 #191

NOW you tell me! (n/t) Jim Lane Oct 2017 #200

Any thoughts on the legion of op's scolding folks who still haven't felt the Bern? They do exactly Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #118

I have not seen such a legion of posts. Jim Lane Oct 2017 #122

Living in the past? Did Hillary Clinton, Susan Sarandon and Bernie Sanders die last year? betsuni Oct 2017 #93

I will not, can not forget. Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #104

Many other POC feel the same way, and that sentiment is conveniently ignored. liquid diamond Oct 2017 #172

Here's the thing radical noodle Oct 2017 #106

Eloquently stated. Thank you. liquid diamond Oct 2017 #173

Terrific post. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #214

Correct. That's exactrly what I feel. I will never for get, and I won't be silenced lunamagica Oct 2017 #215

I have Stein, Hillary, Bernie, Sanders, Sarandon on auto trash by keyword Kaleva Oct 2017 #108

What does that leave? Hurricanes, "caption this pic!" and 'toons? SMC22307 Oct 2017 #168

Wow! Lots of overnight uniters! 117 recc's! 85 in less than 3hrs & more than 30 overnight! Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #114

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #115

Agree, agree, agree. Vinca Oct 2017 #116

Bullshit maxrandb Oct 2017 #121

Yet this OP got LOTS recc's in record time and overnight! Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #127

That's the problem maxrandb Oct 2017 #182

I immediately trash all those threads. tavernier Oct 2017 #128

Same here. DinahMoeHum Oct 2017 #130

Divisive Underground exists to divide us and bury us deep underground IronLionZion Oct 2017 #131

135 Recs!!! Great news. nt USALiberal Oct 2017 #136

Random? Nothing "random" about it at all... NurseJackie Oct 2017 #141

Scolding is part of DU treestar Oct 2017 #145

"Divisive rabble rousing"?? It's nothing of the sort. NurseJackie Oct 2017 #146

When the same thing happens over and over, lark Oct 2017 #148

I just came into this thread to bask in the unity kcr Oct 2017 #159

fingerwaggingunderground.com SMC22307 Oct 2017 #170

Is it me or do these posts always seem to come from people who didn't vote for Hillary? LonePirate Oct 2017 #176

I'm sure the OP voted for Hillary in the GE. As we all did. n/t demmiblue Oct 2017 #184

You are mistaken and that is insulting elehhhhna Oct 2017 #192

Really? Do you really think that most people on this blog didn't vote for Clinton? Note the "most." George Eliot Oct 2017 #201

The # of people on DU ≠ The # of people here complaining about Dems attacking Bernie, Sarandon, etc. LonePirate Oct 2017 #207

As you can tell from my post, I am in the camp of "stop complaining" as it is unproductive. George Eliot Oct 2017 #212

I agree Wibly Oct 2017 #188

Yep. That's our culture Bucky Oct 2017 #193

I voted for Bernie in the primary, and Hillary, of course, in the GE. I would have been happy with RKP5637 Oct 2017 #204

As I see it the Jill Stein's and Susan Sarandons are the the ones who are divisive rabble still_one Oct 2017 #217

Agree with the post MadCrow Oct 2017 #227

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