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Tommy_Carcetti

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Tue Nov 21, 2017, 12:14 PM Nov 2017

Juanita Broaddrick is a hypocrite, shameful opportunist and nothing but a shady partisan hack. [View all]




You are under no obligation to believe her claims against Bill Clinton simply because of the news other more current allegations of sexual harassment and assault against notable figures. There's nothing that requires you to believe her, and certainly not some misguided sense of guilt that you think now you should have taken her seriously.

Nothing about her seems to cry like someone who should be taken seriously.

Feel free to check out her Twitter page and tell me whether she comes off as someone who is a credible yet silenced victim of abuse, or alternately, someone with a blatant and unabashed political agenda.

https://twitter.com/atensnut

First, her profile picture is her with Sean Hannity. So there's that.

But much, much worse is her cover photo. It shows her--along with three other women--sitting right next to Donald Trump. The picture was taken at a press conference right before the second debate and right after the Access Hollywood tape had come out. You know, the tape where Donald Trump bragged about kissing women against their consent and wanting to "grab them by the pussy"?

Seriously......if you are the legitimate victim of sexual assault by a high profile individual, a blatantly transparent photo op next to Donald Trump right after the Access Hollywood tapes became public would be the very last thing you would want to do.

If you continue to read her Twitter feed, you'll see her go off on what could best be described as generic right wing rants that have nothing to do with the Clintons or allegations of sexual assault. She attacks Jim Comey, Congresswoman Fredericka Wilson, Joe Biden, Michelle Obama's fashion, goes on rants about immigration, posts Ben Garrison cartoons, communicates with "Doctor" Sebastian Gorka, and posts lots and lots and lots of heaping praise on Donald "Grab them by the pussy" Trump.

Also interesting is her especially pointed attacks against Megyn Kelly, even after Kelly had come out and alleged she was the victim of sexual harassment at Fox News. For example:




Now, say whatever you will about Megyn Kelly, positive, negative or (in my case) completely neutral. But again, why would someone who claims to be the victim of sexual assault go off so heavily on someone else who claimed to be the victim of unwanted sexual advances apparently because she didn't jibe with your political candidate of choice?

Perhaps all of this could better be excused as bitter vigilantism by a silenced abuse victim, but only if Broadrrick's story was more substantiated and believable from the get-go. The fact that two of the people Broaddrick claims supported her story happened to be friends of hers with a long standing decades long beef against Bill Clinton for commuting a death sentence against their father's killer is notable. The fact that Broadderick denied being assaulted under oath is even more notable.

But that Ken Starr--who would have given his left nut to destroy Bill Clinton if he could--couldn't find Broaddrick credible enough to use during his unbridled special counsel investigation, speaks vast volumes as to why I should be hesitant to believe Juannita Broaddrick.

Listen, even though I'll honestly admit that yes, I am a fan of Bill Clinton, the guy is far from perfect, both politically and personally. We all know through the Monica story (and before that, Gennifer Flowers) he seemed to have a weakness when it came to women, although those stories represented completely 100% consensual relationships with adults. That all said, given the headlines today, is it absolutely out of the realm of possibility that he had acted inappropriately at some point in the past? Certainly not. And that's not just directed towards Bill Clinton, but to literally everyone and anyone. Tom Hanks. Barack Obama. The Dalai Freaking Lama. There are no sacred cows out there. Just ask Bill Cosby, who most of us loved and adored until about a few years ago.

But no, I have a hard time specifically believing Juanita Broaddrick, and you shouldn't fall victim into the trap that we now have to believe her because the times somehow require that we do.

Nor should anyone feel guilty or embarrassed or ashamed if they say they don't believe Juanita Broaddrick.
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My instinctive reaction to people's body language, responses, and reactions have rarely hlthe2b Nov 2017 #1
I disagree, Big Blue Marble Nov 2017 #4
I have doubt in both directions... Generally speaking I default to believing the victims. hlthe2b Nov 2017 #10
There should be no *default* into believing anyone. Just a good faith duty to investigate. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #12
Stop adding to what I said. I said my default was to believe them, but that does not preclude a hlthe2b Nov 2017 #15
A default position is a default position. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #16
No position is to discount the accuser. Benefit of the doubt is to believe them until the facts, hlthe2b Nov 2017 #17
And Trump's stunt with these women at the second debate... maddiemom Nov 2017 #23
"There should be no *default* into believing anyone. Just a good faith duty to investigate." LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #30
The tragedy of Broaddrick Big Blue Marble Nov 2017 #22
I've read that she did MichMary Nov 2017 #7
That is not what I said at all. Very disingenous of you to say that MichMary hlthe2b Nov 2017 #9
There's no hard evidence she told anyone contemperaneously. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #11
I never believed her or Kathleen Wiley. Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #18
What about when Hillary said thank you Nevernose Nov 2017 #2
"Bannon is working on it. Good things are coming." Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #3
Again. Why should I believe this woman? LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #27
Come on now. It's not like Steve Bannon has ever been accused of any violence towards wom-- Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #28
"Come on now. It's not like Steve Bannon has ever been accused of any violence towards women." LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #31
She also doesn't believe any other victim RockaFowler Nov 2017 #5
Or perhaps her lawyer says that. nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #6
Yep. It's a trap. kcr Nov 2017 #8
I always figured that Monica had a plan... Wounded Bear Nov 2017 #13
I have no idea what Monica wanted. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #14
I think she was like a groupie. She should have been allowed to keep it a secret JI7 Nov 2017 #19
My issue with Broaddrick and Bill Clinton's other women. politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2017 #20
I totally agree with you.. rainlillie Nov 2017 #21
if i remember correctly.... freddyvh Nov 2017 #24
This woman has made Clinton's rape allegation her friggin CAREER. ENOUGH SAID. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #25
Yup. Was she lying then or is she lying now? N/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #29
The Dalai Lama??? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #26
If Ken Starr didn't find her credible Bettie Nov 2017 #32
He didn't find Kathleen Willey credible, either. kskiska Nov 2017 #34
And he was looking for something, Bettie Nov 2017 #37
And I'll just add this for good measure. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #33
This was a he said she said loyalsister Nov 2017 #35
I have never believed her Skittles Nov 2017 #36
If it happened, is it so far fetched that she would gravitate to his political enemies? Baconator Nov 2017 #38
Perhaps but it's her cavalier dismissal of allegations of abuse against other people that stands out Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #39
Depends on the motive I suppose... Baconator Nov 2017 #40
Neither of the Clinton holds public office anymore standingtall Nov 2017 #41
If she's motivated by revenge... Baconator Nov 2017 #42
She's a discredited liar. Hope karma catches up to her real soon. beaglelover Nov 2017 #43
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