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Tommy_Carcetti

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12. There should be no *default* into believing anyone. Just a good faith duty to investigate.

Tue Nov 21, 2017, 01:16 PM

Nov 2017

A person claiming to be the victim of abuse, assault or harassment has every right to have his or her claim taken seriously, sensitively, in good faith with due diligence to nothing but getting to the truth of the matter.

We shouldn't feel obligated to immediately believe any one's account over the other or out of "default."

Broaddrick first publicly made her claims in the late 1990s. They were investigated by none other than Ken Starr, who didn't find her to be reliable.

Since the Starr investigation and the initial onset of Broaddrick, there hasn't been anything that has come to public light that has bolstered her claims or made her statement more believable than it would have been in the 1990s.

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Juanita Broaddrick is a hypocrite, shameful opportunist and nothing but a shady partisan hack. [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 OP

My instinctive reaction to people's body language, responses, and reactions have rarely hlthe2b Nov 2017 #1

I disagree, Big Blue Marble Nov 2017 #4

I have doubt in both directions... Generally speaking I default to believing the victims. hlthe2b Nov 2017 #10

There should be no *default* into believing anyone. Just a good faith duty to investigate. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #12

Stop adding to what I said. I said my default was to believe them, but that does not preclude a hlthe2b Nov 2017 #15

A default position is a default position. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #16

No position is to discount the accuser. Benefit of the doubt is to believe them until the facts, hlthe2b Nov 2017 #17

And Trump's stunt with these women at the second debate... maddiemom Nov 2017 #23

"There should be no *default* into believing anyone. Just a good faith duty to investigate." LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #30

The tragedy of Broaddrick Big Blue Marble Nov 2017 #22

I've read that she did MichMary Nov 2017 #7

That is not what I said at all. Very disingenous of you to say that MichMary hlthe2b Nov 2017 #9

There's no hard evidence she told anyone contemperaneously. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #11

I never believed her or Kathleen Wiley. Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #18

What about when Hillary said thank you Nevernose Nov 2017 #2

"Bannon is working on it. Good things are coming." Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #3

Again. Why should I believe this woman? LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #27

Come on now. It's not like Steve Bannon has ever been accused of any violence towards wom-- Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #28

"Come on now. It's not like Steve Bannon has ever been accused of any violence towards women." LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #31

She also doesn't believe any other victim RockaFowler Nov 2017 #5

Or perhaps her lawyer says that. nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #6

Yep. It's a trap. kcr Nov 2017 #8

I always figured that Monica had a plan... Wounded Bear Nov 2017 #13

I have no idea what Monica wanted. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #14

I think she was like a groupie. She should have been allowed to keep it a secret JI7 Nov 2017 #19

My issue with Broaddrick and Bill Clinton's other women. politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2017 #20

I totally agree with you.. rainlillie Nov 2017 #21

if i remember correctly.... freddyvh Nov 2017 #24

This woman has made Clinton's rape allegation her friggin CAREER. ENOUGH SAID. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #25

Yup. Was she lying then or is she lying now? N/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #29

The Dalai Lama??? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #26

If Ken Starr didn't find her credible Bettie Nov 2017 #32

He didn't find Kathleen Willey credible, either. kskiska Nov 2017 #34

And he was looking for something, Bettie Nov 2017 #37

And I'll just add this for good measure. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #33

This was a he said she said loyalsister Nov 2017 #35

I have never believed her Skittles Nov 2017 #36

If it happened, is it so far fetched that she would gravitate to his political enemies? Baconator Nov 2017 #38

Perhaps but it's her cavalier dismissal of allegations of abuse against other people that stands out Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #39

Depends on the motive I suppose... Baconator Nov 2017 #40

Neither of the Clinton holds public office anymore standingtall Nov 2017 #41

If she's motivated by revenge... Baconator Nov 2017 #42

She's a discredited liar. Hope karma catches up to her real soon. beaglelover Nov 2017 #43