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Tommy_Carcetti

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14. I have no idea what Monica wanted.

Tue Nov 21, 2017, 01:31 PM

Nov 2017

If you ask me, probably it was just a combination of her having access to the President of the United States who also has a rather magnetic persona about him as well as stately good looks (admittedly an attractive combo), and him being notoriously impulsive when a woman showed her affection towards him.

My opinion on Monica has always been completely neutral. She did pursue a married man, but that married man should have had the better sense not to go with it. She's neither a hero nor a villain in my book.

Whatever it was, it was nothing but consensual. Ultimately very stupid and reckless on Bill's part, but consensual nonetheless.

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Juanita Broaddrick is a hypocrite, shameful opportunist and nothing but a shady partisan hack. [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 OP

My instinctive reaction to people's body language, responses, and reactions have rarely hlthe2b Nov 2017 #1

I disagree, Big Blue Marble Nov 2017 #4

I have doubt in both directions... Generally speaking I default to believing the victims. hlthe2b Nov 2017 #10

There should be no *default* into believing anyone. Just a good faith duty to investigate. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #12

Stop adding to what I said. I said my default was to believe them, but that does not preclude a hlthe2b Nov 2017 #15

A default position is a default position. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #16

No position is to discount the accuser. Benefit of the doubt is to believe them until the facts, hlthe2b Nov 2017 #17

And Trump's stunt with these women at the second debate... maddiemom Nov 2017 #23

"There should be no *default* into believing anyone. Just a good faith duty to investigate." LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #30

The tragedy of Broaddrick Big Blue Marble Nov 2017 #22

I've read that she did MichMary Nov 2017 #7

That is not what I said at all. Very disingenous of you to say that MichMary hlthe2b Nov 2017 #9

There's no hard evidence she told anyone contemperaneously. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #11

I never believed her or Kathleen Wiley. Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #18

What about when Hillary said thank you Nevernose Nov 2017 #2

"Bannon is working on it. Good things are coming." Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #3

Again. Why should I believe this woman? LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #27

Come on now. It's not like Steve Bannon has ever been accused of any violence towards wom-- Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #28

"Come on now. It's not like Steve Bannon has ever been accused of any violence towards women." LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #31

She also doesn't believe any other victim RockaFowler Nov 2017 #5

Or perhaps her lawyer says that. nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #6

Yep. It's a trap. kcr Nov 2017 #8

I always figured that Monica had a plan... Wounded Bear Nov 2017 #13

I have no idea what Monica wanted. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #14

I think she was like a groupie. She should have been allowed to keep it a secret JI7 Nov 2017 #19

My issue with Broaddrick and Bill Clinton's other women. politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2017 #20

I totally agree with you.. rainlillie Nov 2017 #21

if i remember correctly.... freddyvh Nov 2017 #24

This woman has made Clinton's rape allegation her friggin CAREER. ENOUGH SAID. Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #25

Yup. Was she lying then or is she lying now? N/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #29

The Dalai Lama??? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #26

If Ken Starr didn't find her credible Bettie Nov 2017 #32

He didn't find Kathleen Willey credible, either. kskiska Nov 2017 #34

And he was looking for something, Bettie Nov 2017 #37

And I'll just add this for good measure. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #33

This was a he said she said loyalsister Nov 2017 #35

I have never believed her Skittles Nov 2017 #36

If it happened, is it so far fetched that she would gravitate to his political enemies? Baconator Nov 2017 #38

Perhaps but it's her cavalier dismissal of allegations of abuse against other people that stands out Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #39

Depends on the motive I suppose... Baconator Nov 2017 #40

Neither of the Clinton holds public office anymore standingtall Nov 2017 #41

If she's motivated by revenge... Baconator Nov 2017 #42

She's a discredited liar. Hope karma catches up to her real soon. beaglelover Nov 2017 #43