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In reply to the discussion: Iran makes a huge show of blowing up 'US aircraft carrier' in explosive TV spectacle [View all]GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)41. I wouldn't laugh too hard just yet. Does anyone remember this US naval exercise?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
Red, commanded by retired Marine Corps Lieutenant General Paul K. Van Riper, adopted an asymmetric strategy, in particular, using old methods to evade Blue's sophisticated electronic surveillance network. Van Riper used motorcycle messengers to transmit orders to front-line troops and World War II light signals to launch airplanes without radio communications. The Naval Simulation, Joint Semi-Automated Forces (JSAF) had neither a sophisticated electronic network nor the modeling of WWII lights at the time of MC-02 according to the developer of the JSAF simulation; Mr. Guy Purser, Director, Modeling and Simulation, NWDC.
Red received an ultimatum from Blue, essentially a surrender document, demanding a response within 24 hours. Thus warned of Blue's approach, Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. At approximately the same time that Red had located Blue forces, operators of the Blue naval simulation were directed incorrectly to turn off all self-defense capabilities by a senior Naval Officer who was not in command of the simulated forces nor current in the scenario. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that destroyed sixteen warships while the JSAF simulator operators sat and watched without responding defensively or offensively[citation needed]. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected.[1] Again it should be noted, the JSAF simulation did not at that time have the suicide behaviors modeled nor the damage models of interactions of a small boat impacting a ship.
Red, commanded by retired Marine Corps Lieutenant General Paul K. Van Riper, adopted an asymmetric strategy, in particular, using old methods to evade Blue's sophisticated electronic surveillance network. Van Riper used motorcycle messengers to transmit orders to front-line troops and World War II light signals to launch airplanes without radio communications. The Naval Simulation, Joint Semi-Automated Forces (JSAF) had neither a sophisticated electronic network nor the modeling of WWII lights at the time of MC-02 according to the developer of the JSAF simulation; Mr. Guy Purser, Director, Modeling and Simulation, NWDC.
Red received an ultimatum from Blue, essentially a surrender document, demanding a response within 24 hours. Thus warned of Blue's approach, Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. At approximately the same time that Red had located Blue forces, operators of the Blue naval simulation were directed incorrectly to turn off all self-defense capabilities by a senior Naval Officer who was not in command of the simulated forces nor current in the scenario. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that destroyed sixteen warships while the JSAF simulator operators sat and watched without responding defensively or offensively[citation needed]. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected.[1] Again it should be noted, the JSAF simulation did not at that time have the suicide behaviors modeled nor the damage models of interactions of a small boat impacting a ship.
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Iran makes a huge show of blowing up 'US aircraft carrier' in explosive TV spectacle [View all]
bananas
Feb 2015
OP
they didn't have enough for the models of the other ships that are in a carrier battle group either
Baclava
Feb 2015
#14
Military officials could be heard shouting "praise the lord" each time the replica was hit.
bananas
Feb 2015
#2
Missed opportunity for the Seabees to sneak in the night before and install a real CIWS
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2015
#9
Sure, make fun of this, but no civilians on board, unlike the Iranians we blew to smithereens
Hissyspit
Feb 2015
#13
The reason for the Iranians' hatred for USA is nowhere to be found in this story, either.
Octafish
Feb 2015
#18
Great point. ''Compared to the current regime, the SAVAK was the Salvation Army.''
Octafish
Feb 2015
#56
We could learn a bit from that. We dont encourage people to go into the trades anymore
7962
Feb 2015
#58
Those 12 speedboats wouldn't get very close before being blown to paradise.
Elmer S. E. Dump
Feb 2015
#24
The Persian Gulf is tiny, boats can get close enough by justing be in the Gulf
happyslug
Feb 2015
#39
It was movie set for the film Airbus, starring Val Kilmer and Oliver Stone's son. Seriously.
Xithras
Feb 2015
#35
if the intent of posting this is to scare us, recall that Iran's military budget is about the same
yurbud
Feb 2015
#36
I wouldn't laugh too hard just yet. Does anyone remember this US naval exercise?
GliderGuider
Feb 2015
#41
I remember it, not the details, but I used it above in my post 39, but I did NOT name the exercise.
happyslug
Feb 2015
#67
All that firepower did not seem to stop the USS Cole from being attacked.
former9thward
Mar 2015
#75
Because a rowboat with a motor was not seen as a threat. The motor torpedo boats used
stevenleser
Mar 2015
#77