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JackRiddler

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63. Also, "a Navy ship captain fucked up" explains nothing.

Fri Feb 27, 2015, 01:00 AM

Feb 2015

It's a lot bigger than that. First a situation had to be created in which it could make any sense that U.S. military warships should be dispatched to the other side of the world, where they treat a crowded area as though every plane taking off is a potential threat. Then, on top of that, said warships actually invaded Iranian territorial waters. Only then did this particular "fuck-up" become possible.

Three years after the incident, Admiral William J. Crowe admitted on American television show Nightline that Vincennes was inside Iranian territorial waters when it launched the missiles.[20] This contradicted earlier Navy statements. The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) report of December 1988 placed the USS Vincennes (CG-49) well inside Iran's territorial waters.[35] Commander David Carlson, commanding officer of USS Sides, the warship stationed nearest to Vincennes at the time of the incident, is reported to have said that the destruction of the aircraft "marked the horrifying climax to Captain Rogers's aggressiveness, first seen four weeks ago".[36]

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We expect them to die. stone space Feb 2015 #28

Take out a carrier, be lucky if you're not nuked Telcontar Feb 2015 #44

Taken out by a carrier. stone space Feb 2015 #47

What a sad, uninformed post Telcontar Feb 2015 #50

Is it a difficult question? stone space Feb 2015 #51

My opinion is nuclear weapons dont equate with genocide Telcontar Feb 2015 #53

And we did it in Japan. (nt) stone space Feb 2015 #54

We did? When? Do the history books know about this? Telcontar Feb 2015 #55

The "shock photos" show which direction the actual violence has gone in. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #60

If so, then a few pics are missing Telcontar Feb 2015 #65

When did Iran strike against the U.S.? JackRiddler Feb 2015 #68

1978 Telcontar Feb 2015 #71

Looks like their own version of 50 Shades of Gray BeyondGeography Feb 2015 #12

Sure, make fun of this, but no civilians on board, unlike the Iranians we blew to smithereens Hissyspit Feb 2015 #13

None of which has anything to do with THIS story. 7962 Feb 2015 #16

The reason for the Iranians' hatred for USA is nowhere to be found in this story, either. Octafish Feb 2015 #18

So democracy is what they have now? 7962 Feb 2015 #49

Great point. ''Compared to the current regime, the SAVAK was the Salvation Army.'' Octafish Feb 2015 #56

We could learn a bit from that. We dont encourage people to go into the trades anymore 7962 Feb 2015 #58

Historical context is always relevant. nt bananas Feb 2015 #32

A Navy ship captain fucked up. Adrahil Feb 2015 #19

I didn't say that that was a reason to celebrate. Hissyspit Feb 2015 #37

It's not an "attack" of any kind. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #62

Also, "a Navy ship captain fucked up" explains nothing. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #63

needs work to achieve production values of "amurican sniper" dembotoz Feb 2015 #15

Yep. hunter Feb 2015 #25

Absolutely! ronnie624 Feb 2015 #31

We are the Empire Telcontar Feb 2015 #45

My post didn't indicate ronnie624 Feb 2015 #59

Pointless propaganda. blackspade Feb 2015 #17

LOL @t anyone who takes the Iranian military seriously GOLGO 13 Feb 2015 #20

Those 12 speedboats wouldn't get very close before being blown to paradise. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #24

The Persian Gulf is tiny, boats can get close enough by justing be in the Gulf happyslug Feb 2015 #39

they are working on it - 'Navy Moves More Patrol Craft to 5th Fleet' Baclava Feb 2015 #42

Thanks, slug, that was very infomative! Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #46

I'm sure the Iranian people laughed their asses off, too tabasco Feb 2015 #57

Nobody gets close to an aircraft carrier in modern warfare. damyank913 Mar 2015 #72

Thus the carriers stay out of the gulf happyslug Mar 2015 #74

I do remember this. It was called Millennium something or other. damyank913 Mar 2015 #76

I consider it a good thing that they don't start wars cpwm17 Feb 2015 #52

Many US citizens, in their propaganda induced ignorance, ronnie624 Feb 2015 #61

Moving tanks into position. marble falls Feb 2015 #21

Are we sure the Iranian Government didn't tell their people it was real? davidpdx Feb 2015 #22

Good question! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2015 #27

That should impress Turbineguy Feb 2015 #23

Some phony shock and awe, for the rubes daleo Feb 2015 #29

As a repeated victim of a powerful, brutal empire from across the world, ronnie624 Feb 2015 #30

If the plan is to attack the US Navy... damyank913 Feb 2015 #33

Our country produces some truly fearsome weapons ronnie624 Feb 2015 #38

Those would be the smartest Iranian sailors in their entire fleet. GOLGO 13 Feb 2015 #66

It was movie set for the film Airbus, starring Val Kilmer and Oliver Stone's son. Seriously. Xithras Feb 2015 #35

+1 KoKo Feb 2015 #40

if the intent of posting this is to scare us, recall that Iran's military budget is about the same yurbud Feb 2015 #36

I wouldn't laugh too hard just yet. Does anyone remember this US naval exercise? GliderGuider Feb 2015 #41

I remember it, not the details, but I used it above in my post 39, but I did NOT name the exercise. happyslug Feb 2015 #67

+1000 ***This Is A Must Read*** Corey_Baker08 Feb 2015 #70

An Allahwood production seveneyes Feb 2015 #43

It was called "The Interview" alcibiades_mystery Feb 2015 #48

All this tells me is the Iranians haven't discovered the magic of CGI Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #64

Lol, they used mortars on speedboats. Calista241 Feb 2015 #69

Now that was the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. stevenleser Mar 2015 #73

All that firepower did not seem to stop the USS Cole from being attacked. former9thward Mar 2015 #75

Because a rowboat with a motor was not seen as a threat. The motor torpedo boats used stevenleser Mar 2015 #77

Always an excuse. former9thward Mar 2015 #78

So are they saying each of our next vehicles should be electric? ffr Mar 2015 #79