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23. Video from just after the "march".

Tue May 1, 2012, 10:15 AM

May 2012

Check out the commentary by Nathan at about 8:23 He explains what he has seen and what he is doing. 1st eyewitness commentary - so far. Total time runs to about 17 minutes.
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Nathan H - in Oakland for May Day

under the title "4.30.12 OO Smashy Smashy March"

http://www.livestream.com/opdxlive/video?clipId=pla_ae931f2c-660f-45a1-8194-8470e85b5f0f&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

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Vandalizing protesters go on rampage in SF's Mission District [View all] IamK May 2012 OP

sad... IamK May 2012 #1

Did the authorities recognize any of their own? KeepItReal May 2012 #2

agent provocateurs. nt tomp May 2012 #3

+ 1000 rosesaylavee May 2012 #8

"Agent provocateurs" can't be the knee-jerk response to everything bad with OWS hack89 May 2012 #10

What if the Oakland PD admit to, even brag about, infiltrating Black Bloc ? KurtNYC May 2012 #24

Yep. EFerrari May 2012 #27

So one 9 year old incident proves every time it is an "agent provocateur" ? hack89 May 2012 #29

There are many recent incidents of infiltration and agent provacteurism KurtNYC May 2012 #33

"You aren't Occupy." leaves plenty of room for other groups besides the police hack89 May 2012 #35

exclusionary groups will most likely form as a result... happerbolic May 2012 #67

No more and no less than your premise proves it was OWS... LanternWaste May 2012 #60

I am not saying it was OWS hack89 May 2012 #61

This. Octafish May 2012 #26

Yes, this is truly an "acknowledgment of reality." suffragette May 2012 #28

So one incident means every incident must be the same? hack89 May 2012 #30

The many incidents we have documented beats the big zero you have. KurtNYC May 2012 #36

Can you at least admit that OWS events will attract other groups hack89 May 2012 #37

Can you admit that if OWS was violent the police wouldn't need to use APs? KurtNYC May 2012 #55

I don't think OWS is violent hack89 May 2012 #57

Why is it so hard to admit that those people ARE agent provocateurs - that's EXACTLY what they are. saras May 2012 #34

Why is it so hard to admit that those people may not sympathize with the police hack89 May 2012 #43

It's hard not to blame "agent provateurs" when every single SF Occupier that I know Luminous Animal May 2012 #46

it's a reasonable response to this story Enrique May 2012 #39

Why? hack89 May 2012 #44

police also have a history of it Enrique May 2012 #47

How convenient for you hack89 May 2012 #50

I'm just telling you what I think Enrique May 2012 #53

Never said it was. hack89 May 2012 #56

There are plenty of non-violent peaceful anarchists. Anarchists in San Francisco were Luminous Animal May 2012 #48

Never said there wasn't - a "stereotypical" anarchist is an oxymoron. nt hack89 May 2012 #52

But who are the fringe elements? JDPriestly May 2012 #65

I am not saying they are OWS hack89 May 2012 #66

Almost Certainly Anarchists DallasNE May 2012 #69

Sounds like the old days of Cointelpro FBI provacation teams hiding in the Peace groups. Ford_Prefect May 2012 #4

it's really a pity when law enforcement try to break their own stuff NuttyFluffers May 2012 #5

I suspect that the SF Bay Area is being targeted by Agent Provocateaurs Proletariatprincess May 2012 #6

Agreed, I saw it on the No True Scotsman Channel AngryAmish May 2012 #11

Definitely. EFerrari May 2012 #12

Sigh. Nope. these are the usual angst filled teen boys. progressivebydesign May 2012 #64

The occupy movement Cirque du So-What May 2012 #7

It doesn't make any difference Occulus May 2012 #16

Some Dogtown May 2012 #20

So get these provocateurs dead to right and we can talk hack89 May 2012 #45

How do you propose peaceful protesters do that? Luminous Animal May 2012 #51

I was referring to actual evidence that they were police agent provocateurs. hack89 May 2012 #54

Where's the securtiy Video of the event??? Ford_Prefect May 2012 #9

excellent point ford... happerbolic May 2012 #68

Do something. Eljo_Don May 2012 #13

Yes, at least denounce them for once. slackmaster May 2012 #15

For once? Occupy protesters- legitimate ones- have done just that from the beginning. Occulus May 2012 #19

"None of us have any idea who they were." randome May 2012 #21

The "legitimate" Occupy protesters do plenty of denouncing, but I don't see them denouncing this one slackmaster May 2012 #22

So, Occupy should just drop everything EFerrari May 2012 #25

Those "few trolls" did a lot of damage. Occupy would do well to help clean up the mess. slackmaster May 2012 #31

That's what trolls do. EFerrari May 2012 #32

"dressed in black". Hmmmmm. Really? n/t LeftinOH May 2012 #14

Then they went home and bought more stuff with mommy and daddy's money. The end. chrisa May 2012 #17

Seriously love your post. n/t progressivebydesign May 2012 #63

Sounds like Black bloc. drm604 May 2012 #18

Video from just after the "march". Ford_Prefect May 2012 #23

40 cops : Zero arrests. Hmmmm. Luminous Animal May 2012 #38

huh, 40 cops, following & watching vandalism, and ZERO arrests. QUI BONO PEOPLE! NuttyFluffers May 2012 #70

Anti-Occupy Bullshit. Odin2005 May 2012 #40

DU this Occupy-related poll! alp227 May 2012 #41

Eye witness account from an SF Occupier (and he's not happy). Luminous Animal May 2012 #42

sounds like Blackwater USA Enrique May 2012 #49

That should be an OP in and of itself! Roland99 May 2012 #58

Already crossposted at DUs Occupy Underground :) Luminous Animal May 2012 #59

Dumbasses. progressivebydesign May 2012 #62