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24. What if the Oakland PD admit to, even brag about, infiltrating Black Bloc ?

Tue May 1, 2012, 09:16 AM

May 2012

In 2003 the Oakland, CA Police Dept infiltrated a group of peaceful anti-war protestors at the port. Oakland police captain Howard Jordan said "You don't need to have some special skill to infiltrate these groups. Two of our officers were elected leaders within an hour of joining the group. So if you put people in there from the beginning, I think we'd be able to gather information and maybe even direct them to do something that we want them to do."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5626076

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Vandalizing protesters go on rampage in SF's Mission District [View all] IamK May 2012 OP

sad... IamK May 2012 #1

Did the authorities recognize any of their own? KeepItReal May 2012 #2

agent provocateurs. nt tomp May 2012 #3

+ 1000 rosesaylavee May 2012 #8

"Agent provocateurs" can't be the knee-jerk response to everything bad with OWS hack89 May 2012 #10

What if the Oakland PD admit to, even brag about, infiltrating Black Bloc ? KurtNYC May 2012 #24

Yep. EFerrari May 2012 #27

So one 9 year old incident proves every time it is an "agent provocateur" ? hack89 May 2012 #29

There are many recent incidents of infiltration and agent provacteurism KurtNYC May 2012 #33

"You aren't Occupy." leaves plenty of room for other groups besides the police hack89 May 2012 #35

exclusionary groups will most likely form as a result... happerbolic May 2012 #67

No more and no less than your premise proves it was OWS... LanternWaste May 2012 #60

I am not saying it was OWS hack89 May 2012 #61

This. Octafish May 2012 #26

Yes, this is truly an "acknowledgment of reality." suffragette May 2012 #28

So one incident means every incident must be the same? hack89 May 2012 #30

The many incidents we have documented beats the big zero you have. KurtNYC May 2012 #36

Can you at least admit that OWS events will attract other groups hack89 May 2012 #37

Can you admit that if OWS was violent the police wouldn't need to use APs? KurtNYC May 2012 #55

I don't think OWS is violent hack89 May 2012 #57

Why is it so hard to admit that those people ARE agent provocateurs - that's EXACTLY what they are. saras May 2012 #34

Why is it so hard to admit that those people may not sympathize with the police hack89 May 2012 #43

It's hard not to blame "agent provateurs" when every single SF Occupier that I know Luminous Animal May 2012 #46

it's a reasonable response to this story Enrique May 2012 #39

Why? hack89 May 2012 #44

police also have a history of it Enrique May 2012 #47

How convenient for you hack89 May 2012 #50

I'm just telling you what I think Enrique May 2012 #53

Never said it was. hack89 May 2012 #56

There are plenty of non-violent peaceful anarchists. Anarchists in San Francisco were Luminous Animal May 2012 #48

Never said there wasn't - a "stereotypical" anarchist is an oxymoron. nt hack89 May 2012 #52

But who are the fringe elements? JDPriestly May 2012 #65

I am not saying they are OWS hack89 May 2012 #66

Almost Certainly Anarchists DallasNE May 2012 #69

Sounds like the old days of Cointelpro FBI provacation teams hiding in the Peace groups. Ford_Prefect May 2012 #4

it's really a pity when law enforcement try to break their own stuff NuttyFluffers May 2012 #5

I suspect that the SF Bay Area is being targeted by Agent Provocateaurs Proletariatprincess May 2012 #6

Agreed, I saw it on the No True Scotsman Channel AngryAmish May 2012 #11

Definitely. EFerrari May 2012 #12

Sigh. Nope. these are the usual angst filled teen boys. progressivebydesign May 2012 #64

The occupy movement Cirque du So-What May 2012 #7

It doesn't make any difference Occulus May 2012 #16

Some Dogtown May 2012 #20

So get these provocateurs dead to right and we can talk hack89 May 2012 #45

How do you propose peaceful protesters do that? Luminous Animal May 2012 #51

I was referring to actual evidence that they were police agent provocateurs. hack89 May 2012 #54

Where's the securtiy Video of the event??? Ford_Prefect May 2012 #9

excellent point ford... happerbolic May 2012 #68

Do something. Eljo_Don May 2012 #13

Yes, at least denounce them for once. slackmaster May 2012 #15

For once? Occupy protesters- legitimate ones- have done just that from the beginning. Occulus May 2012 #19

"None of us have any idea who they were." randome May 2012 #21

The "legitimate" Occupy protesters do plenty of denouncing, but I don't see them denouncing this one slackmaster May 2012 #22

So, Occupy should just drop everything EFerrari May 2012 #25

Those "few trolls" did a lot of damage. Occupy would do well to help clean up the mess. slackmaster May 2012 #31

That's what trolls do. EFerrari May 2012 #32

"dressed in black". Hmmmmm. Really? n/t LeftinOH May 2012 #14

Then they went home and bought more stuff with mommy and daddy's money. The end. chrisa May 2012 #17

Seriously love your post. n/t progressivebydesign May 2012 #63

Sounds like Black bloc. drm604 May 2012 #18

Video from just after the "march". Ford_Prefect May 2012 #23

40 cops : Zero arrests. Hmmmm. Luminous Animal May 2012 #38

huh, 40 cops, following & watching vandalism, and ZERO arrests. QUI BONO PEOPLE! NuttyFluffers May 2012 #70

Anti-Occupy Bullshit. Odin2005 May 2012 #40

DU this Occupy-related poll! alp227 May 2012 #41

Eye witness account from an SF Occupier (and he's not happy). Luminous Animal May 2012 #42

sounds like Blackwater USA Enrique May 2012 #49

That should be an OP in and of itself! Roland99 May 2012 #58

Already crossposted at DUs Occupy Underground :) Luminous Animal May 2012 #59

Dumbasses. progressivebydesign May 2012 #62