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leftynyc

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143. Well then feel free to

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:59 AM

Mar 2016

enlighten the rest of us stooges about the glories for women living in Muslim countries. Tell us how we're wrong and the death penalty doesn't really exist for being gay, for leaving Islam, for "dishonoring" your father. Tell us they don't really cut off the hands of thieves. That women - ALL women - can walk around in whatever clothing they wish, they can get an education, work for a living, live alone without fear. Just what lies are you referring to because I haven't seen ANY lies in this thread. NONE.

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Many millions of Muslims 'fundamentally incompatible with the modern world', says Tony Blair [View all] alp227 Mar 2016 OP

"Sadly, there are plenty of DUers (not Freeper trolls) who believe this, too..." EX500rider Mar 2016 #1

The thing is, very few Muslims in the world are like that, and very very few in America. Zira Mar 2016 #5

+1 Absolutely. retrowire Mar 2016 #8

Except for one very large difference leftynyc Mar 2016 #67

We'll get there if Ted Cruz wins. retrowire Mar 2016 #70

No we wont leftynyc Mar 2016 #72

so Christian radicals don't exist here retrowire Mar 2016 #89

Don't shove words into my leftynyc Mar 2016 #92

no they werent treated like shit under islam at first retrowire Mar 2016 #96

How far back would you like to go? leftynyc Mar 2016 #97

no our laws are fine retrowire Mar 2016 #99

this makse absolutely no sense - a completely false parallel MariaThinks Mar 2016 #132

what the fuckk???? retrowire Mar 2016 #135

The ten commandments MariaThinks Mar 2016 #152

... I'm going to avoid giving you an entire history lesson retrowire Mar 2016 #155

in terms of history lessons. Christianity has been around at least 700 years before islam MariaThinks Mar 2016 #157

i said i wasnt giving you a history lesson soo... retrowire Mar 2016 #158

Good answer MariaThinks Mar 2016 #160

well stay in the real world today and acknowledge that gay people get killed in muslim majority MariaThinks Mar 2016 #131

Very few in America, yes. But millions around the world. pnwmom Mar 2016 #9

Polls of Muslim countries show a majority in some countries do support all those things. EX500rider Mar 2016 #10

free polls where said Muslims can freely state their conscious? paleotn Mar 2016 #41

So the polls are wrong and you are right? EX500rider Mar 2016 #44

And I'm sure all citizens in those countries had a say in implementing those laws. paleotn Mar 2016 #50

How about Malaysia, Thailand, and Indonesia? oberliner Mar 2016 #64

1st of all Thailand is a Buddhist country. Turborama Mar 2016 #76

No kidding oberliner Mar 2016 #105

What 77% of a 5.8% minority of the country want* is pretty insignificant Turborama Mar 2016 #107

But the thread seems to be about looking at the views of Muslims around the world oberliner Mar 2016 #119

+10000 Zira Mar 2016 #120

There's a majority of moderate Muslims? katsy Mar 2016 #81

Excellent fucking question GummyBearz Mar 2016 #93

Good for not holding your breath. Don't want katsy Mar 2016 #98

You said hollowdweller Mar 2016 #113

??? I said what now? That's just a link to a new story in Pakistan.. EX500rider Mar 2016 #115

Polls are not infallible. Turborama Mar 2016 #138

Especially when they contradict your world view i suppose, EX500rider Mar 2016 #145

It's just a fact. Turborama Mar 2016 #151

The poll results are certainly facts, yes. EX500rider Mar 2016 #153

You might want to actually travel the world a bit. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #111

on this board too and they hide any threads that point out the truth. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #133

That's definitely not true oberliner Mar 2016 #63

25,000 people marched in Pakistan for Sharia Law. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #84

that's only in one city. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #130

Thank you! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #134

the 10 Commandments MariaThinks Mar 2016 #154

with the constant terrorist attacks, continued radicalization, sharia law (and the MariaThinks Mar 2016 #86

one thing i've learned is that if people don't feel the desire to explain and put MariaThinks Mar 2016 #129

The problem with this assertion is that anti-Islam bigots will use it as a shield. alp227 Mar 2016 #16

+10000 Zira Mar 2016 #22

"That's the problem with otherwise reasonable positions" GummyBearz Mar 2016 #27

I understand what you're saying LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #32

You can find these strains of thought in Igel Mar 2016 #40

You are exactly right. raging moderate Mar 2016 #77

To further emphasize your point .... kwassa Mar 2016 #114

"That's the problem with otherwise reasonable positions Angel Martin Mar 2016 #106

+10000000% GOLGO 13 Mar 2016 #122

You're darn right there are some of us who think this TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #2

I can say the same about Donald Trump. Zira Mar 2016 #6

Boo hoo TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #11

You do realize a LARGE group of supporters want a race war and would like to kill all the minorities Zira Mar 2016 #14

You do realize that when liberals deny the problematic TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #18

I am not denying any problematic beliefs of Muslims. I'm just setting the record straight that it Zira Mar 2016 #19

"millions" is not "most". There are over a billion Muslims in the world. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #85

Yes, but he specifically said "millions", not most. smirkymonkey Mar 2016 #94

Maybe, maybe not. It's a valid question. Millions (let say 2 million) is less than 1/750. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #103

And, I have to put you on ignore now. Zira Mar 2016 #20

Thank you! I'm honored. TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #21

Nor did that person admit what the teaparty and right wing really want in this country, which Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #28

Really? The teaparty wants death by stoning for switching religions? EX500rider Mar 2016 #45

Wrong, the tea party does not behead people Democat Mar 2016 #62

When did anyone on this thread accuse "all" Muslims? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #87

Na, I keep reading your posts and they are fine. Zira Mar 2016 #95

I agree that the radicals don't represent greater Islam. And not all radicals are jihadists. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #104

So? We all hate Donald Trump and think he's despicable. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #12

You can say it - that does 840high Mar 2016 #37

Thank you. 840high Mar 2016 #36

You're welcome. TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #38

Amen to that leftynyc Mar 2016 #68

^^^^^^ T H I S katsy Mar 2016 #80

Politicians like Blair and Trump turn a blind eye to Christian fundatmentalism, however. cprise Mar 2016 #116

In which Christian country do women need escorts TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #124

Totally this ^^^^^^ katsy Mar 2016 #128

Ask the sponsors of regimes like Saudi Arabia cprise Mar 2016 #141

I don't give 2 shits what they do. katsy Mar 2016 #127

Or all Christians.... paleotn Mar 2016 #42

ALL Christians? FrodosPet Mar 2016 #46

sorry. thought it was obvious..... paleotn Mar 2016 #49

The Old Testament is considered history to Christians TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #125

Do you know what 'Conservapedia' is? cprise Mar 2016 #142

Christians don't take the bible literally. That is the difference. GummyBearz Mar 2016 #51

There are millions of bible literalists in the US metalbot Mar 2016 #66

There is one "country" I can think of that is a Christian nation GummyBearz Mar 2016 #79

But that is their whole emphisis. That The Bible is the literal word of God LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #112

You must be joking!!! From a Republican... cprise Mar 2016 #118

The difference is between religious values informing legislators and declaring an official religion karynnj Mar 2016 #102

It's difficult to argue with him on this. Calista241 Mar 2016 #3

Here's 25000+ at the tip of the spear MowCowWhoHow III Mar 2016 #4

25k of extreme fundy Islamics. We have that many people going to trump rallies all over and cheering Zira Mar 2016 #13

There are roughly 183 million people in Pakistan.... paleotn Mar 2016 #43

You're right! Every Islamic Fundamentalist in Pakistan was at that demo, all 25K of them. MowCowWhoHow III Mar 2016 #58

Any fundie or govt. who says that women cannot drive or go out in public pnwmom Mar 2016 #7

Many millions TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #15

+^that 840high Mar 2016 #39

for me womens Rights trumps religious tolerance Mary Mac Mar 2016 #55

I really love when I can agree with you. Excellent points. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #88

Lemme guess: The ones you haven't killed, Tony? Octafish Mar 2016 #17

My thoughts exactly. Turborama Mar 2016 #75

Rovian History Righting Octafish Mar 2016 #108

Have you seen that Blair and Panetta are teaming up on a commission suffragette Mar 2016 #136

That may be overshadowed by the long-delayed Chilcot Report into the Iraq War, Denzil_DC Mar 2016 #139

Good point, for the UK especially. Still looks like they are trying to influence US suffragette Mar 2016 #146

Chilcot's become an ugly running joke. Denzil_DC Mar 2016 #147

I meant the release date for the Blair/Panetta report at time of Convention this summer suffragette Mar 2016 #148

Oh, I see! I'm sure it'll be a ripping yarn. Denzil_DC Mar 2016 #150

Thanks for the links and info! suffragette Mar 2016 #156

You're welcome. Denzil_DC Mar 2016 #159

Poodle Blair can go fuck himself jpak Mar 2016 #23

I totally agree with this, and it is also true of Android3.14 Mar 2016 #24

Nice alliteration! C Moon Mar 2016 #25

Fuck you Blair, you warmongering, racist POS. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #26

That sums it up quite nicely! Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #29

Speaking of crazy, Tony. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #30

It has been our dealing with SA and like minded regimes randr Mar 2016 #31

You're right. polly7 Mar 2016 #33

We also must admit that most of the freedoms randr Mar 2016 #34

With 1.5 billion Muslims in the world "many millions" could be less than 1% of the total. pampango Mar 2016 #35

So what should we do about it, Tony? paleotn Mar 2016 #47

I haven't seen any Islamophobes on this thread. Just a debate over numbers. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #90

There are absolutely millions... TipTok Mar 2016 #48

What's the solution? Trump-style immigration restrictions? nt alp227 Mar 2016 #53

Trump restrictions are idiotic because they are overly broad... TipTok Mar 2016 #54

"Western society" isn't the "modern world". Turborama Mar 2016 #109

How about 'civilized world'...? TipTok Mar 2016 #110

What exactly is your definition of "integrate" and "burden"? Turborama Mar 2016 #137

Integrate means... TipTok Mar 2016 #140

You're a fucking war criminal, Tony choie Mar 2016 #52

Well... malokvale77 Mar 2016 #56

I agree with the contention, but not with his solution. fbc Mar 2016 #57

There are a billion plus Muslims around the world. romanic Mar 2016 #59

A common enough assertion davidthegnome Mar 2016 #60

There are many countries where being gay is a death sentence Democat Mar 2016 #61

Its the internet access everyone has due to cellphones. extreme 'culture shock' for many people. Sunlei Mar 2016 #65

Says the war criminal. Darb Mar 2016 #69

Truth! Elmergantry Mar 2016 #71

So are a lot of other people treestar Mar 2016 #73

Typo in the headline... Turborama Mar 2016 #74

The lies about Muslims promulgated on here often make it seem indistinguishable to freeperville. Turborama Mar 2016 #78

Why don't you enlighten us. katsy Mar 2016 #100

Well then feel free to leftynyc Mar 2016 #143

The Mother Lode of Bad ideas. bdwker Mar 2016 #149

Many millions of conservatives and fascists are 'fundamentally incompatible with the modern world'. pampango Mar 2016 #82

But they have modern tools and weapons cprise Mar 2016 #117

interesting statement. I wonder why he's saying it. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #83

i think tony blair is fundamentally incompatible with the modern world n/t PaulaFarrell Mar 2016 #91

Who asked the "Poodle"? In the past, he has been a "mine of bad information". nt ladjf Mar 2016 #101

i think the problem here is differences in perception of "the modern world" 0rganism Mar 2016 #121

This conversation is impossible to have on DU in any realistic sense. Marrah_G Mar 2016 #123

Kind of hard to argue against the poodle on this one. Philly-Union-Man Mar 2016 #126

Tony has a point here. GOLGO 13 Mar 2016 #144