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In reply to the discussion: Mark Lane, Early Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy Theorist, Dies at 89 [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)14. He made an outstanding presentation at the Duquesne conference...

An attorney, author, and early critic of the Warren Commission, Mr. Lane said he is proud to be the only public official arrested for being a Freedom Rider during the Civil Rights movement. At the Duquesne conference, Mr. Lane stated that he believed he was the only person in the room of about 800 people who also was personal friends with President John F. Kennedy and Attorney General and later Senator Robert F. Kennedy. He got to know them in his role as New York City for JFK campaign chair in the 1960 election, particularly RFK, who served as his brothers national campaign manager. Speaking from his unique personal and professional perspectives, Mr. Lane discussed the role of secret government in regard to the assassination.
EXCERPT...
This is what Arthur Krock wrote, published in The New York Times on October 3, 1963: "A very high American official -- and he was talking about John Kennedy -- has said the CIA's growth was likened to a malignancy, which was, the very high official said, was not sure even the White House could control. And this very high official, probably the president, said. And was published, as I said, in The New York Times, October 3, 1963. If the United States ever experiences an attempt at a coup to overthrow the government, it will come from the CIA and not the Pentagon. The CIA represents a tremendous power and total unaccountability to anyone.
That's what was said in October. And the president was killed the following month.
The Warren Commission never called Arthur Krock to ask him who the official was; How come he could predict the assassination a month before it took place? or predict something happening; and who the high official was? The high official was John Kennedy. But, that has not been said (in the media). And so we have the government issuing a statement which is untrue. And then we have the news media accepting it and allowing no dissent.
No dissent. For one year, a full year after the assassination of the president, not one question was asked of the government or published anywhere in any newspaper, radio station, television station. Not one question about the validity of the government's investigation. Not one question.
I'd like to believe that now with the internet and instant communication we have all around the the whole world, that if that happened today, it would be very hard to keep it a secret. But, you can count on the fact that people will continue to try that, if events have to be covered up from their viewpoint.
And as I said, there was -- their statement (the Warren Commissions) was, Our position is that we must reassure the American people. And Earl Warren came out and when he was asked, "When will we get the truth? He said, You may never get it in your lifetime. Hundreds of thousands of Americans might die if the facts came out.
And so, he was terrified. The hundreds of Americans he was talking about was World War III, which was going to break out, if they told the truth. This was what the Warren Commission was told. It took me years to get (FOIA) transcripts of the in-house meetings of the commission.
But, this is what they were told: that Lee Harvey Oswald, according to the CIA, went to Mexico City in October, 1963. He then visited the two agencies there -- he visited the Soviet embassy, he was in the Soviet Union, and the Cuban embassy. And it's clear that he was planning after he killed -- this was in October, when he was there, they said -- he was planning to go to Cuba and from Cuba -- go from Mexico City after the assassination -- Oswald was -- and go to Cuba from Mexico City and then fly on to the Soviet Union. That's the story that was told to the Warren Commission.
And the CIA went on to say, however: We don't believe that the Russians or the Cubans were in any way involved. But, if the story gets out, people will not believe us. And that's why hundreds of thousands of Americans will die in a war which is going to take place. That's what they told Earl Warren and scared him. He really was frightened by this.
The trouble was the story was a fabrication. Oswald had not been to Mexico City.
The person who designed that whole story was a man named David Atlee Phillips, who ran the Central Intelligence Agency for the entire western hemisphere from his office in Mexico City.
Not long before he died, in the last seven years (or so) ago, he said that, I was at USC and appeared on the program with him) he said that, in fact, Oswald never was in Mexico City -- which destroyed the entire story which had been told to the Warren Commission.
When that was reported, an apologist for the Warren Commission said, Well, it was because, yes, he said it, we can't deny that he said it. This was well-publicized, this statement. But the fact is that Mark Lane had subjected him to a cruel, grueling cross examination and confused him and that's why he said it.
It was a (1977) meeting at USC (University of Southern California). I was on the panel and he was on the panel. I directed no question to him at all. And a student got up at the end and raised the subject, which I had not, that was: Can you tell us about Mexico City, Mr. Phillips?" There was no cross examination. It was just the kid asking the question. And that's when Phillips said, "Oswald was never there."
And so the cover-up was that I had subjected him to this cross examination that wasn't. Of course, I didn't ask him anything. It was the student that said it. But that became the mantra of the Establishment to try to explain how the man who ran the Central Intelligence Agency for the United States (in the hemisphere) and elsewhere and did it from his office in Mexico City, made that statement, because of my brilliant cross-examination, although I never asked him the question.
And so here we are now, 50 years later, almost 50 years later, and there still are files which are classified. We don't even know the number, but we know there are in the tens of thousands of documents, that are classified by reasons of national security. Which obviously makes no sense, 50 years later. Never made any sense at the time because they were saying Lee Harvey Oswald did it alone. But anyway, even if made sense, then what issue of national security can possibly still be involved?
Well it's a question of CIAs security. If the American people were told then or were even told now the truth about who killed their president, that would be the end of the CIA.
Most of the people who were involved are dead; in fact, maybe all of them. I know some names, but I dont (name them). I'm a lawyer and I believe in our system of justice. I've never spoken out the name of any one individual who i believe is a suspect in the case because I think that our system is: Nobody is guilty in this country, each person is presumed to be innocent, even when they've been indicted, it is unfair to give up our whole judicial system in this one instance by saying yes, so-and-so probably did it. Guilt is determined by a jury or a plea of guilty or if you waive a jury, by a judge. The outcome is the result of a judicial proceeding. That is crucial to who we are, not every country has this blessing, which was handed down to us by the founders at the very beginning.
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Please know the transcription above of Mr. Lanes remarks from Oct. 18, 2013 at Duquesne above is mine. Any errors it may contain are my own.
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Mark Lane, Early Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy Theorist, Dies at 89 [View all]
Octafish
May 2016
OP
Mark Lane opened our eyes, breaking the myths of democracy and freedom our government was meant to
Kip Humphrey
May 2016
#1
The original paperback edition of Mark Lane's "Rush To Judgement " is still on my bookshelf.
hedda_foil
May 2016
#15
Oh, how I WISHED I had taken the extra day to see him at that conference, Octafish...
MrMickeysMom
May 2016
#42
I admire people who tell the truth. That's why I have a problem with you, Major Nikon.
Octafish
May 2016
#30
Aha, so only 50 years after coming up with his theory, tptb found a way to silence Mr. Lane.
FSogol
May 2016
#5
Excellent book. He refused to believe that a dim-witted former commie, with poor marksmanship,
Doctor_J
May 2016
#6
Lane said J Edgar Hoover naming Oswald the lone assassin within hours was a sign of cover-up.
Octafish
May 2016
#31
I am now conviinced the kill shot came from the car behind, the agent with the gun that
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#26
Actually, it took Mark Lane years to document the CIA - MAFIA Murder Inc. relationship.
Octafish
May 2016
#84
Can GHWBush account for his whereabouts when these alleged "natural causes" occurred?
Bucky
May 2016
#32
Here's who to suspect: Those who've spent the last 52 years covering it up, the BFEE.
Octafish
May 2016
#38
But that's not what the post was about. Here's something else to know, Dude...
Octafish
May 2016
#40
By all means keep on promoting the work of anti-Semites if that's what does it for you
Major Nikon
May 2016
#71
Nice smear. If I was an ''anti-Semite" interested in ''butthurt" I'd be long gone from DU.
Octafish
May 2016
#73
I think you're worried about how close I'm getting to what you're really about
Major Nikon
May 2016
#92
His journal is filled with him parroting out one of the founders of the LaRouche movement
Major Nikon
May 2016
#90
So those who chronicle the crimes of the Bush family are a problem for you. Nice.
Octafish
May 2016
#98
For those that don't know, Webster Tarpley was involved in the LaRouche movement for decades
Major Nikon
May 2016
#104
Why do you keep parroting out works from LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review?
Major Nikon
May 2016
#105
So why do you keep parroting out works from LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review?
Major Nikon
May 2016
#109
I've yet to see you post the slightest proof I've ever expressed fondness for Bush or Cheney
Major Nikon
May 2016
#119
Not really. I side with Mark Lane. You side with Bush and Cheney, Major Nikon.
Octafish
May 2016
#127
If your "truth" was as rock solid as you claim, why go to LaRouche to get it?
Major Nikon
May 2016
#132
Pointing out that LaRouche is a batshit crazy anti-Semite = "defending Bush"
Major Nikon
May 2016
#135
No. I've used alert probably six or seven times in 55,000 posts or whatever it is.
Octafish
May 2016
#142