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In reply to the discussion: Mark Lane, Early Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy Theorist, Dies at 89 [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)24. No, more like Nixon and Dulles and Bush.
The history is why I never denigrate people with labels, like "Conspiracy Theorist." It is a loaded term, designed to poison the person as a source of information and news.
Here's the treasonous, murderous reality of the "Unindicted Co-Conspirator" of Watergate fame: Richard Milhous Nixon approved hiring a Secret Service man who said he'd 'kill on command' to guard Ted Kennedy. You can hear Nixon and Haldeman discuss it, about 40 minutes into the HBO documentary "Nixon by Nixon." While I had read the part of the transcript available years ago, and wrote about it on DU, almost no one I know has heard anything about it.
Ted Kennedy survived Richard Nixon's Plots
By Don Fulsom
In September 1972, Nixons continued political fear, personal loathing, and jealously of Kennedy led him to plant a spy in Kennedys Secret Service detail.
The mole Nixon selected for the Kennedy camp was already being groomed. He was a former agent from his Nixons vice presidential detail, Robert Newbranda man so loyal he once pledged he would do anythingeven killfor Nixon.
The President was most interested in learning about the Sen. Kennedys sex life. He wanted, more than anything, stated Haldeman in The Ends of Power, to catch (Kennedy) in the sack with one of his babes.
In a recently transcribed tape of a September 8, 1972 talk among the President and aides Bob Haldeman and Alexander Butterfield, Nixon asks whether Secret Service chief James Rowley would appoint Newbrand to head Kennedys detail:
Haldeman: He's to assign Newbrand.
President Nixon: Does he understand that he's to do that?
Butterfield: He's effectively already done it. And we have a full force assigned, 40 men.
Haldeman: I told them to put a big detail on him (unclear).
President Nixon: A big detail is correct. One that can cover him around the clock, every place he goes. (Laughter obscures mixed voices.)
President Nixon: Right. No, that's really true. He has got to have the same coverage that we give the others, because we're concerned about security and we will not assume the responsibility unless we're with him all the time.
Haldeman: And Amanda Burden (one of Kennedys alleged girlfriends) can't be trusted. (Unclear.) You never know what she might do. (Unclear.)
Haldeman then assures the President that Newbrand will do anything that I tell him to He really will. And he has come to me twice and absolutely, sincerely said, "With what you've done for me and what the President's done for me, I just want you to know, if you want someone killed, if you want anything else done, any way, any direction "
President Nixon: The thing that I (unclear) is this: We just might get lucky and catch this son-of-a-bitch and ruin him for '76.
Haldeman: That's right.
President Nixon: He doesn't know what he's really getting into. We're going to cover him, and we are not going to take "no" for an answer. He can't say "no." The Kennedys are arrogant as hell with these Secret Service. He says, "Fine," and (Newbrand) should pick the detail, too.
Toward the end of this conversation, Nixon exclaims that Newbrands spying (is) going to be fun, and Haldeman responds: Newbrand will just love it.
Nixon also had a surveillance tip for Haldeman for his spy-to-be: I want you to tell Newbrand if you will that (unclear) because he's a Catholic, sort of play it, he was for Jack Kennedy all the time. Play up to Kennedy, that "I'm a great admirer of Jack Kennedy." He's a member of the Holy Name Society. He wears a St. Christopher (unclear). Haldeman laughs heartily at the Presidents curious advice.
Despite the enthusiasm of Nixon and Haldeman, Newbrand apparently never produced anything of great value. When this particular round of Nixons spying on Kennedy was uncovered in 1997, The Washington Post quoted Butterfield as saying periodic reports on Kennedy's activities were delivered to Haldeman, but that Butterfield did not think any potentially damaging information was ever dug up.
SOURCE:
http://surftofind.com/tedkennedy
Why does that matter? The Warren Commission, and the nation's mass media, never heard about the CIA-Mafia plots to kill Castro until the Church Committee in 1975. You'd think that would be a matter of concern to all Americans, especially considering how then-vice president Nixon was head of the "White House Action Team" that contacted the Mafia for murder.
This is the sort of information citizens of a democracy shouldn't have to search ConsortiumNews or CounterPunch to learn. It should be taught in school, or at the least, discussed in the nation's mass media. I certainly think it's unfair for people -- especially those who consider themselves Democrats or democrats -- to label those interested in such subjects "Conspiracy Theorists" and whatever else the haters and idiots can think of.
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Mark Lane, Early Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy Theorist, Dies at 89 [View all]
Octafish
May 2016
OP
Mark Lane opened our eyes, breaking the myths of democracy and freedom our government was meant to
Kip Humphrey
May 2016
#1
The original paperback edition of Mark Lane's "Rush To Judgement " is still on my bookshelf.
hedda_foil
May 2016
#15
Oh, how I WISHED I had taken the extra day to see him at that conference, Octafish...
MrMickeysMom
May 2016
#42
I admire people who tell the truth. That's why I have a problem with you, Major Nikon.
Octafish
May 2016
#30
Aha, so only 50 years after coming up with his theory, tptb found a way to silence Mr. Lane.
FSogol
May 2016
#5
Excellent book. He refused to believe that a dim-witted former commie, with poor marksmanship,
Doctor_J
May 2016
#6
Lane said J Edgar Hoover naming Oswald the lone assassin within hours was a sign of cover-up.
Octafish
May 2016
#31
I am now conviinced the kill shot came from the car behind, the agent with the gun that
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#26
Actually, it took Mark Lane years to document the CIA - MAFIA Murder Inc. relationship.
Octafish
May 2016
#84
Can GHWBush account for his whereabouts when these alleged "natural causes" occurred?
Bucky
May 2016
#32
Here's who to suspect: Those who've spent the last 52 years covering it up, the BFEE.
Octafish
May 2016
#38
But that's not what the post was about. Here's something else to know, Dude...
Octafish
May 2016
#40
By all means keep on promoting the work of anti-Semites if that's what does it for you
Major Nikon
May 2016
#71
Nice smear. If I was an ''anti-Semite" interested in ''butthurt" I'd be long gone from DU.
Octafish
May 2016
#73
I think you're worried about how close I'm getting to what you're really about
Major Nikon
May 2016
#92
His journal is filled with him parroting out one of the founders of the LaRouche movement
Major Nikon
May 2016
#90
So those who chronicle the crimes of the Bush family are a problem for you. Nice.
Octafish
May 2016
#98
For those that don't know, Webster Tarpley was involved in the LaRouche movement for decades
Major Nikon
May 2016
#104
Why do you keep parroting out works from LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review?
Major Nikon
May 2016
#105
So why do you keep parroting out works from LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review?
Major Nikon
May 2016
#109
I've yet to see you post the slightest proof I've ever expressed fondness for Bush or Cheney
Major Nikon
May 2016
#119
Not really. I side with Mark Lane. You side with Bush and Cheney, Major Nikon.
Octafish
May 2016
#127
If your "truth" was as rock solid as you claim, why go to LaRouche to get it?
Major Nikon
May 2016
#132
Pointing out that LaRouche is a batshit crazy anti-Semite = "defending Bush"
Major Nikon
May 2016
#135
No. I've used alert probably six or seven times in 55,000 posts or whatever it is.
Octafish
May 2016
#142