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In reply to the discussion: Mark Lane, Early Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy Theorist, Dies at 89 [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)65. Don't get all frothy, Major Nikon. Those are the FBI documents.
If you could, you'd show where I was wrong. As you can't, you act angry and smear.
Here are details on the documents from someone I respect:
GHW BUSH & JFK HIT
by Russ Baker
Who What Why
What possible connection could there have been between George H.W. Bush and the assassination of John F. Kennedy? Or between the C.I.A. and the assassination? Or between Bush and the C.I.A.? For some people, apparently, making such connections was as dangerous as letting one live wire touch another. Here, in anticipation of the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination in November, is the first part of a ten-part series of excerpts from WhoWhatWhy editor Russ Bakers bestseller, Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, Americas Invisible Government and the Hidden History of the Last Fifty Years. The story is a real-life thriller.
EXCERPT...
Almost a decade would pass between Bushs election in 1988 and the declassification and release in 1996 of another government document that shed further light on the matter. This declassified document would help to answer some of the questions raised by the 63 Hoover memo questions such as, If George Herbert Walker Bush was already connected with the CIA in 1963, how far back did the relationship go?
But yet another decade would pass before this second document would be found, read, and revealed to the public. Fast-forward to December 2006, on a day when JFK researcher Jerry Shinley sat, as he did on so many days, glued to his computer, browsing through the digitized database of documents on the Web site of the Mary Ferrell Foundation.
On that December day, Shinley came upon an internal CIA memo that mentioned George H. W. Bush [the Bush designated Director of Central Intelligence (DCI)]. Dated November 29, 1975, it reported, in typically spare terms, the revelation that the man who was about to become the head of the CIA actually had prior ties to the agency. And the connection discussed here, unlike that unearthed by McBride, went back not to 1963, but to 1953 a full decade earlier. Writing to the chief of the spy section of the analysis and espionage agency, the chief of the cover and commercial staff noted:
Through Mr. Gale Allen . . . I learned that Mr. George Bush, DCI designate has prior knowledge of the now terminated project WUBRINY/LPDICTUM which was involved in proprietary commercial operations in Europe. He became aware of this project through Mr. Thomas J. Devine, a former CIA Staff Employee and later, oil-wildcatting associate with Mr. Bush. Their joint activities culminated in the establishment of Zapata Oil (sic) (in 1953) which they eventually sold. After the sale of Zapata Oil, Mr. Bush went into politics, and Mr. Devine became a member of the investment firm of Train, Cabot and Associates, New York . . . The attached memorandum describes the close relationship between Messrs. Devine and Bush in 1967-1968 which, according to Mr. Allen, continued while Mr. Bush was our ambassador to the United Nations.
In typical fashion for the highly compartmentalized and secretive intelligence organization, the memo did not make clear how Bush knew Devine, or whether Devine was simply dropping out of the spy business to become a true entrepreneur. For Devine, who would have been about twenty-seven years old at the time, to resign at such a young age, so soon after the CIA had spent a great deal of time and money training him was, at minimum, highly unusual. It would turn out, however, that Devine had a special relationship allowing him to come and go from the agency, enabling him to do other things without really leaving its employ. In fact, CIA history is littered with instances where CIA officers have tendered their resignation as a means of creating deniability while continuing to work closely with the agency . . .
Devines role in setting up Zapata would remain hidden for more than a decade until 1965. At that point, as Bush was extricating himself from business to devote his energies to pursuing a congressional seat, Devines name suddenly surfaced as a member of the board of Bushs spin-off company, Zapata Offshore almost as if it was his function to keep the operation running. To be sure, he and Bush remained joined at the hip . . .
Devine, like the senior George Bush, is now in his eighties and still active in business in New York. When I reached him in the winter of 2007 and told him about recently uncovered CIA memos that related both his agency connections and his longtime ties to Bush, he uttered a dry chuckle, then continued cautiously.
Tell me who you are working with in the family, he asked when I informed him I was working on a book about the Bushes. I explained that the book was not exactly an authorized biography, and therefore I was not working with someone in the family. Moreover, I noted, the Bushes were not known for their responsiveness to journalistic inquiries. The family policy has been as long as George has been in office, they dont talk to media, Devine replied. But he agreed to contact the Bush family seeking clearance. Well, the answer is, I will inquire. I have your telephone number, and Ill call you back when Ive enquired.
CONTINUED...
http://whowhatwhy.org/2013/09/16/part-1-mr-george-bush-of-the-central-intelligence-agency/
I met Mr. Baker at the Duquesne conference. Like Mr. Lane, the subject of this thread, Russ Baker is a top flight researcher and writer.
BTW: I was posting those FBI memos on DU2 at least since 2004. I learned about them on DU earlier than that, but cannot find a link anymore. Anway, the important thing for you to know: In those days, we were more interested in what they contained than in trying to discredit the one posting them.
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Mark Lane, Early Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy Theorist, Dies at 89 [View all]
Octafish
May 2016
OP
Mark Lane opened our eyes, breaking the myths of democracy and freedom our government was meant to
Kip Humphrey
May 2016
#1
The original paperback edition of Mark Lane's "Rush To Judgement " is still on my bookshelf.
hedda_foil
May 2016
#15
Oh, how I WISHED I had taken the extra day to see him at that conference, Octafish...
MrMickeysMom
May 2016
#42
I admire people who tell the truth. That's why I have a problem with you, Major Nikon.
Octafish
May 2016
#30
Aha, so only 50 years after coming up with his theory, tptb found a way to silence Mr. Lane.
FSogol
May 2016
#5
Excellent book. He refused to believe that a dim-witted former commie, with poor marksmanship,
Doctor_J
May 2016
#6
Lane said J Edgar Hoover naming Oswald the lone assassin within hours was a sign of cover-up.
Octafish
May 2016
#31
I am now conviinced the kill shot came from the car behind, the agent with the gun that
Jackie Wilson Said
May 2016
#26
Actually, it took Mark Lane years to document the CIA - MAFIA Murder Inc. relationship.
Octafish
May 2016
#84
Can GHWBush account for his whereabouts when these alleged "natural causes" occurred?
Bucky
May 2016
#32
Here's who to suspect: Those who've spent the last 52 years covering it up, the BFEE.
Octafish
May 2016
#38
But that's not what the post was about. Here's something else to know, Dude...
Octafish
May 2016
#40
By all means keep on promoting the work of anti-Semites if that's what does it for you
Major Nikon
May 2016
#71
Nice smear. If I was an ''anti-Semite" interested in ''butthurt" I'd be long gone from DU.
Octafish
May 2016
#73
I think you're worried about how close I'm getting to what you're really about
Major Nikon
May 2016
#92
His journal is filled with him parroting out one of the founders of the LaRouche movement
Major Nikon
May 2016
#90
So those who chronicle the crimes of the Bush family are a problem for you. Nice.
Octafish
May 2016
#98
For those that don't know, Webster Tarpley was involved in the LaRouche movement for decades
Major Nikon
May 2016
#104
Why do you keep parroting out works from LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review?
Major Nikon
May 2016
#105
So why do you keep parroting out works from LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review?
Major Nikon
May 2016
#109
I've yet to see you post the slightest proof I've ever expressed fondness for Bush or Cheney
Major Nikon
May 2016
#119
Not really. I side with Mark Lane. You side with Bush and Cheney, Major Nikon.
Octafish
May 2016
#127
If your "truth" was as rock solid as you claim, why go to LaRouche to get it?
Major Nikon
May 2016
#132
Pointing out that LaRouche is a batshit crazy anti-Semite = "defending Bush"
Major Nikon
May 2016
#135
No. I've used alert probably six or seven times in 55,000 posts or whatever it is.
Octafish
May 2016
#142